Date: Sun, 20 Nov 94 04:00:06 CST From: numan@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #106 Gary Numan Digest Sun, 20 Nov 94 Volume 1 : Issue 106 Today's Topics: Can ANYONE find me Machine + Soul Extended?!! CDs & Laserdiscs Gary Numan Digest V1 #105 More reflections on _Sacrifice_ Numan CDs on-line Sacrifice in the UK Vinyl LPs for sale... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 15:09:43 -0800 (PST) From: atomic@netcom.com (atomic city) Subject: Can ANYONE find me Machine + Soul Extended?!! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Numanews Mailing List) Thanks to everyone who responded to my posting of Gary CDs for sale. All are sold now, except the Dream Corrosion EP, for which I am still accepting offers. I have managed to find a source for Sacrifice CDs: namely the CD Connection, a firm that takes credit card orders via telnet (telnet cdconnection.com to get on). I got all my BB CDs from them, and the DC EP, but!! I should emphasize that their handling of imports, ESPECIALLY rare ones like Gary's, is very spotty. A CD that is listed may in fact be out of stock, and if it goes out of stock they will not back order it, they will cancel the order and ask that you try again yourself sometime in the future. Which brings me to my current problem: they did not honor my order for a copy of Machine+Soul, nor did they tell me if I would be getting the short version or the one with the extended mixes; I had to work a deal with someone who had a copy of the extended-mix CD to trade for a regular-mix one if that's what I got. Now that's all fallen through. :( Once again, I ask, I beg, I plead: isn't there ANYONE out there who can help me find a copy of M+E extended that is confirmed to have the right tracking on it? ANYONE! I'll pay you for your trouble! This is driving me nuts! I may be making a similar request for a copy of Sacrifice if CDConnection screws up again. God, I hate living in a city with no record stores. :( :( mike -- mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * atomic@netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- metlay's equation: (flippancy) - (context) = great .sig Quote! (j. drukman) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 17:14:30 EST From: richard@dgbt.doc.ca (Richard Paiement) Subject: CDs & Laserdiscs To: numan@cs.uwp.edu For starters, I saw an ad in Goldmine for the Gary Numan Live in London (1984) laserdisc selling for US$71. It is a new import from Japan, and is available from Laser Exchange 444B Broadway Suite 275 Saugus MA 01906-1995 Voice (617) 231 8010 Fax (617) 233 9852 Mon-Fri 11-7PM EST They do accept VISA & Mastercard, and want US$3.50 for UPS ground shipping. A few years ago, I would have called right away, but I'm now more reasonable (out of my completist phase). Besides, money doesn't grow on trees anymore. So, I'll letting someone else have this. Happy shopping! Now about recent CD releases, I got my copy of Sacrifice and I'm in the process of learing to like it alot, well moreso than what has been released in the last 10 years (my opinion). I agree we should let Gary know that we very much support him in this new musical direction, just so he doesn't backtrack. As others mentioned, I'm also somewhat bothered by the percussion, but the whole album is a good step in the right direction. Even if it doesn't reach single success, I hope he produces at least one video for this album. In certain markets (or is that in most markets these days) the video will make or break you, regardless of the song. To finish off this post, I would just like to mention that I've had the Radial Pair CD for almost 2 months already, and the 28 minutes of instrumental music it contains is interesting. It is reminiscing of the tracks for the Unborn, but with the rhythm of his Janet Jackson style. I was a bit disappointed at first, but when one considers that this is the soundtrack to some airplane stunts (Radial Pair videotape), it is somewhat fitting. BTW I also have the Radial Pair videotape (original PAL tape) but I've yet to have it transfered. Later, Richard Paiement ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 94 02:18:11 From: <-MaiSer-@image.com> Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #105 To: The message you sent on 13-Nov-94 04:00:06 -0600 could not be delivered to: david @ ibs, This user is unknown at host IBS. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:49:09 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: More reflections on _Sacrifice_ To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi there, Well, _Sacrifice_ has had a couple of weeks to settle in on me. I really like the album. It is by far Gary's most consistant album since _Metal Rhythm_ and before that perhaps _I, Assassin_. Someone said it was predictable. IMO I think that can be considered a good thing in that it is the unexpected directions that Gary has taken with some songs in recent years that has been of questionable value (_Generator_, _Poison_ _U Got the Look_, _Dark Sunday_, _Soul Protection_, _I Can't Stop_, _The Need_, _Unknown & Hostile_, _Sister Surprise to name a few of my least favourite tracks). I buy Gary's albums to hear Numan not Janet Jackson or Prince. _Sacrifice_ is pure Numan, perhaps for the first time since _Berserker_. We still have some touches that come from recent albums. _Scar_ reminds me of _This is Emotion_, the ballads (_Walk in my Soul_ and _Seed of a Lie_) are reminscent of many of his previous ballads but Gary has moved forward while bringing back some of the essence of what I believe to be Gary's signature. Whatever the intention, Gary cleverly has pleased his older fans while making it accessible to a more modern audience. I was thinking about how I am looking forward to the extended mixes version of _Sacrifice_ and how it would be if he made the whole thing continuous track. I think it would enhance it even more. I still haven't found the "Question of Faith" CD single but wonder how the b-sides would fit as bonus tracks on the _Sacrifice - extended_ CD. Anybody else have any opinions? Derek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford Dept. of Biology dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu San Diego State University ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:46:41 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: Numan CDs on-line To: numan@cs.uwp.edu A few people have had problems obtaining Gary's CDs so I thought I'd do some research about on-line availability and this is what I came up with. I can vouch for EAR/Rational Music as I have dealt with him twice so far without any problem. I cannot say anything about the others. I couldn't get through to CD Connection or CD Europe. They can be reached by telenetting to 199.35.15.100 or 199.35.15.2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >From EAR/Rational music (email angst@xmission.com for a human, ear-rational@xmission.com with subject line HELP for info on automated access to lists) Numan, Gary - A Question of Faith CDS import $9.25 Numan, Gary - Sacrifice <72032> import $23.00 Numan, Gary - '78/'83 Best of (2 CD; 35 tracks) import $21.50 Numan, Gary - Cars CDS (original/remix) [3367] import $9.25 Numan, Gary - Pleasure Principle/Warriors (2-CD) import $21.50 Numan, Gary - Replicas/The Plan (2-CD) import $21.50 Numan, Gary - Telekon/I, Assassin (2-CD) import $21.50 Numan, Gary - Tubeway Army/Dance (2-CD) import $21.50 I also know he can get "Here I Am" for around $16.50. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From AnthemEnt@aol.com (based in Orange County, CA) Anthem entertainment lists the following Numan items: Gary Numan - '78-'83 Best Of (CD - Eur) ... 19.53 Gary Numan - Dream Corrosion (CD - Eur) ... 22.98 Gary Numan - Here I Am (CD - Eur) ... 14.93 Gary Numan - Isolate (CD - Eur) ... 20.68 Gary Numan - Machine & Soul (CD - Eur) ... 19.53 Gary Numan - Other Side (CD - Eur) ... 14.93 Gary Numan - Pleasure Principal/Warriors (CD - Eur) ... 19.53 Gary Numan - Replicas/The Plan (CD - Eur) ... 19.53 Gary Numan - Telekon/I Assassin (CD - Eur) ... 19.53 Gary Numan - Tubeway Army/Dance (CD - Eur) ... 19.53 Gary Numan - White Noise Live (CD - Eur) ... 25.28 Prices reflect a special email order discount that is effective until mid- January 1995. Email for details of shipping costs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: pastel@assam.exnet.com (on-line mail order from UK) Searching retail catalogue - prices include VAT and P+P. PRICES ARE IN BRITISH POUNDS!!! cat audio, search numan NUMAN GARY - SACRIFICE NUMACD1011 CD 11.14 NUMAN GARY - QUESTION OF FAITH NUCD26 SCD 3.66 NUMAN GARY - OTHER SIDE OF RRCD170 CD 10.62 NUMAN GARY - ISOLATE NUMACD1008 CD 10.62 NUMAN GARY - MACHINE & SOUL NUMACD1009 CD 10.62 NUMAN GARY - GHOST NUMACD1007 CD 14.11 NUMAN GARY - MACHINE & SOUL NUMACDX1009 CD 10.62 NUMAN GARY - WHITE NOISE NUMACD1002 CD 14.11 NUMAN GARY - GARY NUMAN CSAPCD113 CD 6.31 NUMAN GARY & - PEEL SESSIONS SFPMACD202 CD 7.60 NUMAN GARY - DREAM CORROSION NUMACD1010 CDS 14.11 NUMAN GARY - DREAM CORROSION LIVE NUCD25 SCD 3.66 NUMAN GARY - MACHINE & SOUL NUCD224 SCD 3.66 NUMAN GARY - EMOTION NUCD22 SCD 3.66 NUMAN GARY - MACHINE & SOUL NUCD124 SCD 3.66 NUMAN GARY - HERE I AM RRCD186 CD 10.62 NUMAN GARY - LIKE A REFUGEE HELP1CD SCD 3.66 I did some research and found that by the time you add the extra charges for international mailing plus credit card payment surcharge the prices aren't very different than what can be obtained in the USA. Email pastel@assam.exnet.com for details --------------- I hope this helps some people. Derek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford Dept. of Biology dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu San Diego State University ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 23:31 GMT From: joeo@cix.compulink.co.uk (Psion plc Joe Odukoya) Subject: Sacrifice in the UK To: numan@cs.uwp.edu With all this stuff about "Sacrifice" going on I am just wondering if anyone in the UK has managed to buy a copy and if so where.Thanks in advance. - Joeo - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:38:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Andy McHaffie Subject: Vinyl LPs for sale... To: numan@cs.uwp.edu First of all - Sacrifice - what an album - easily the best for 12 years! The Hammersmith gig (reviewed last week) was just SO good - I didn't get to either of the shows at The LA2 last Saturday because I had a bit of personal drama...Pretty impressive playing 2 sets in one night - One normal set, and one 'Greatest Hits' set at the G.A.Y. club... Due to not being able to play vinyl, and having either boiught everything on CD or put it on to tape, Im looking to sell all my Numan vinyl... I'd like to sell it as one big batch, but I'll consider splitting it... The stuff Ive got is: LP 12" 7" Tubeway Army She's Got Claws Cars Replicas White Boys + heroes That's Too Bad/Bombers Pleasure Principle Sister Surprise This Is Love Telekon Numan/Tubeway Army Vol 1 Radio Heart Dance " " " Vol 2 New Anger I Assassin " " " Vol 3 Down In The Park Warriors Your Fascination Are Friends Electric ? The Plan 1978 Call Out The Dogs Complex The Fury (signed) Miracles We Are Glass Ghost Berserker I Die You Die Radio Heart My Dying Machine Remember I Was Vapour / On Broadway(Live) Metal Rhythm I Still Remember This Wreckage Newman Numan I Can't Stop (also on 10") She's Got Claws This Is Love Stormtrooper In Drag Radio Heart (promo) Love Needs No Disguise Peel Sessions Music For Chameleons Double Peel Sessions We Take Mystery New Anger White Boys & Heroes Heart Warriors Emotion Sister Surprise Machine & Soul The Live EP I Can't Stop Cars (E Reg Model) America Berserker My Dying Machine Your Fascination Call Out The Dogs Miracles Ill sell the lot for 60 pounds+p&p(or the US dollar equivalent) - first come first served... Ill consider splitting it, but only if no one wants to buy the whole package Some of the records are slightly scratched (Dance, Replicas,Newman Numan, and the 12" of Sister Surprise is warped (but still playable...) - Apart from those the rest are in good condition... email me at amchaffie@email.meto.govt.uk (email me anyway if u just want to chat about stuff in general...) What's the policy regarding bootlegs here? I also have a live recording of Tubeway Army in 1977, and a 7" of Tubeway Army doing 'White Light White Heat', backed with 'Bunch Of Stiffs' by Mean Street - I wouldn't sell these, but would copy them free of charge (given a blank tape) Right, this post is far too long already - Ill get going, and look forward to the next digest... Andy ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************