Date: Sun, 27 Aug 95 01:00:03 CDT From: numan@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #152 Gary Numan Digest Sun, 27 Aug 95 Volume 1 : Issue 152 Today's Topics: "Dangerous Minds" use of "Cars" comment Answer to Scott A's questions Automatic Album Dream Corrosion Live EP on vinyl? Gary Numan Digest V1 #151 LIVE NUMAN!! More Mutterings Response to call for more rereleases subscribe What happened to the T-shirt idea? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:25:35 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: "Dangerous Minds" use of "Cars" comment To: numan@cs.uwp.edu In #151 Deana said: >Lisa, >I'm glad you pointed out the "DangerousMinds" bit. >I keep hearing it on the radio and knew right away that the Numanish >sounding song was not a figment of my imagination. I was ready to scream if >it was some rap group ripping off Gary! I'm glad that you went and saw >>the movie and let it be known. Actually I can hear more than four notes >of >cars in the song. Well guess I'll have to go see it now, I was going >to >anyway for the same reason you did! > Thanks , >p.s. I can't figure out why he would do a rappish sound track let's hope >>he won't get caught up in Rap.............YUCK! Gary does not have complete control of his Beggars Banquet catalogue. It is likely that BB were approached by the rap artist and BB gave the OK. Gary may have been asked by BB as well if it was OK. What has Gary to lose? More exposure (the movie is #1 in the USA at the moment) and possibly even payment for its use. If it enables Gary to get more exposure Stateside and enables Gary to keep on making music then I'm all for it. Generally I dislike rap but the music in the TV ad for the movie has sounds quite interesting to me. Is that what you are referring to? Is it Gary's influence that is making me like it? I should go and see the movie. I'll likley just wait for the video. Don't worry. I feel I can state with 99.9% certainty that Gary is not getting vaught up in rap. After Vanilla Ice I don't think any caucasian is going to follow too fast in his footsteps. Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Dept. of Biology Tel. (619) 594 2885 San Diego State University Fax (619) 594 7831 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:34:46 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: Answer to Scott A's questions To: numan@cs.uwp.edu In #151 thx1138@angus.mystery.com (Scott Abfalter) asked: > Yes, Derek, I have a question. Is there any remote possibility > that he will ever tour in the US again? I'd go far to see > a Numan concert but 2,000 miles is a long and expensive trip. > It does seem like there would be interest enough. I think I covered that in #150. He wants a US contract and label support for a tour here before he can afford to do it. He'd like to do so very much but is not prepared to lose a lot of money over it. As far as interest, I sometimes think that Gary would struggle to fill even small venues in Major cities. When Gary was still known in the USA (Cars was less than 3 years old) he barely got 75 people in Denver on his "I, Assassin" US tour according to Brian Hammond. > I also have a question not for Gary but for the readership > in general: are there video's for the Sacrafice songs? And > if so is a VHS of them available? To my knowledge there are no studio videos for "Sacrifice". They did film one of the shows from last year's tour I thought but I have not heard about a video release yet. Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Dept. of Biology Tel. (619) 594 2885 San Diego State University Fax (619) 594 7831 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 17:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: rmilam@st6000.sct.edu (Ralph Milam) Subject: Automatic Album To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I haven't had time to introduce myself yet. But I wanted to throw this out there. I have an Album by Gary and Bill Sharp and wanted to know if it is out there anywhere on CD. I am also having a hard time finding the Sacrifice CD. Is there any place I can order these from. Thanks! Ralph ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 07:26:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Monica and The Machman Subject: Dream Corrosion Live EP on vinyl? To: gary numan digest Hello fellow Numanoids! I'm getting close to "uploading" corrections and updates to the Gary Numan discography and I need to know if anyone can vouch for a vinyl copy of the DC Live EP. Following Numa standards, it would be NUM 25 and would contain Noise Noise, It Must Have Been Years, I'm An Agent and Jo The Waiter - I think. Please E-mail me at mtolva@eagle.ibc.edu with confirmation of this only if you have it. Does anyone have Numa cassettes of anything from 1992 material onward for update to the discography? I seem to have all other CD and vinyl format information at the moment. Thanks, The Machman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:53:24 -0400 From: Goldbase@aol.com Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #151 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Someone was asking aout cover versions-- How about that cover of Berserker's "Pump Me Up" by screem queen Caroline Munro? It's on the Numa Records sampler. There's also thar new, Michael Bolton-sounding cover of "Are 'Friends' Electric" with Gary doing the talking bits. I found the CD single. I kinda like totally different interpretations of the originals. --Steve Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 20:44:05 +0000 From: "iwisman" Subject: LIVE NUMAN!! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Listening to the live albums brings me almost to being there! Especially "Dark Light" to hear most of the "Sacrifice" Album live is beyond enjoyment. Then 'Replicas" and "Every Day I die" is rewarding." Thank you GARY!!.. Rudy. "Tear me Tear me Tear me" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 02:38:50 +0800 From: lindstrj@cadvision.com Subject: More Mutterings To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Derek Macdonald - thanks for the info on Richard Russell Bell. Now at least the name "Rrussell" makes some kinda sense. I think I should try convincing my friend Ross (whose name is Walter Ross Procter) to call himself Wross.... :-) Stephen Austra-Beck - first, in regards to mentioning Trent Reznor in the same light as Gary Numan... well, off the top I'll agree with you in terms of the mans music. I don't find it particularly appealing, original, or even MUSICAL. However, is production skills are top notch. And, in case you missed it, he has an upcoming cover of Gary's song "Metal" (from The Pleasure Principle) coming out. Second, regarding the do-it-yourself Numan merchandising, I like your idea of doing multiple runs on the same item, TO AN EXTENT. This won't work for T-shirts because the principal costs involved are: 1) The t-shirt 2) The transfer paper (their cost: $5 per sheet) One t-shirt uses up an entire sheet of transfer paper. We can likely arrange a bulk discount for several shirts (they could be the same image or different images) but we wouldn't save much there. However, there's another area I can now save us some cash: colour. Remember that $5 per item surcharge I mentioned? That only happens cuz we gotta use their laser printer. But I've just purchased a Hewlett Packard Deskjet 540 colour printer which seems to do a GREAT job at printing these items out, meaning they're camera ready and thus easier to do. We *CAN* get the transfer-paper costs down for things like hats and keychains and whatnot because we (I) can print out an 8.5x11 sheet that contains SEVERAL copies of the images we want. That can then be duped to a single sheet of transfer paper, which can then be cut up and used a bit at a time (no wasted paper). All of this is moot if there's little or no demand, though. The "full retail price" for most of these items is really quite reasonable. Including taxes (but not including shipping), I've managed to get the following items for my own personal collection for $63 in Canadian funds (about... hmm, something like $45US): 1) The "Telekon" mouse pad 2) A "Tubeway Army" baseball cap 3) A "The Fury" T-shirt 4) An "Isolate" keychain This isn't a high price to pay, considering you literally get to have this stuff made to order. In fact, if you'd like to custom-edit your own image ahead of time, and transmit the .JPG of it to me, I can have *THAT* made into a T-shirt or mug or what-have-you as well. There's really no limit. Sure, it could be pricy if you wanted a full set of Numan coffee mugs (one per studio album = 15 mugs at something like $18 per mug, could get expensive quickly). But who wants a full set of 'em? Really, unless we could somehow drum up some SIGNIFICANT demand, there's really not a WHOLE lot we can do to whittle down the prices more than a few percentage points. And my idea of simply phoning orders into them ain't gonna fly if I've gotta print out all the colour images anyways (grin!). In short, this is something that "true fans" should be seriously considering, but it's not something for the impulse buyer. Hell, if Numa Records (or the fan club) were selling this stuff at twice the price, we'd be LINING UP TO BUY IT, so let's not quibble too much about their pricing, which is quite low already. //----------------------------------------------------------------- // lindstrj@cadvision.com aka Joey Lindstrom // If you're mindless, please take mine // Numanoids On Tour '96 - Email me for details ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:13:35 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: Response to call for more rereleases To: numan@cs.uwp.edu In #150 lindstrj@cadvision.com aka Joey Lindstrom said: >Folks, we're all dying for a re-release of "Berserker" - but now that >we've almost got that one, let's all push for a re-release of "Strange >Charm"... this is really a very fine album (with the huge exception of >"I Can't Stop", which is this album's answer to "Emotion" - ick!)... >although by now you're all tired of my telling you that "My Breathing" >is Gary's greatest song of all time. ;-) Please, let's give Numa some time before we start hounding them again for more CD rereleases :-) The "Babylon" series is dribbling out, "Berserker" is in process and should appear soon, "Human" - music from "The Unborn" Soundtrack sessions should arrive in October and maybe even the unplugged or ballad album later this year but I suspect they have been held back due to all this other activity. I know Numa have been wanting to reissue SC and TF since the label was reformed in 1991 and I am sure they will get around to it. I would really prefer to give them a bit of time to catch their breaths. Does next year fit everyone's time frame. Whenever I have mentioned TF to Beryl she agrees that the extended mixes should be used for the rerelease giving us all something "new" to buy. An SC rerelease I hope would contain "Time to Die" and maybe some of the single versions or extended mixes of the singles to again give us all something new to buy. Meanwhile let's give them time to catch up. I don't want to have Beryl, Tony and Gary pushed too hard by the Digest subscribers, especially as we are just about to have Gary take part in the Digest. Does "killing the bird that lays the golden egg" ring any bells? :-) "My Breathing" took my breath away when I first heard it after getting the CD. IMO the album is a bit patchy but I aggree about "I Can't Stop". "The Need" is also up there among what I feel are Gary's less accomplished pieces. Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Dept. of Biology Tel. (619) 594 2885 San Diego State University Fax (619) 594 7831 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:00:28 -0400 From: "Tony R. Boies" Subject: subscribe To: numan@cs.uwp.edu change of e-mail address: from tboies@leo.vsla.edu to tboies@globalcom.net "Nut Music is proud to bring you the finest acid-jazz-improv and industrial-folk music they could come up with. Ask for your free catalog today via e-mail, or write to Nut Music, PO Box 5033, Herndon, VA 22070. Nut Music: thanks for Nuttin'!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:44:11 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: What happened to the T-shirt idea? To: numan@cs.uwp.edu After seeing Joe's posts about Numan mousepads, caps and keychains it made me wonder what happened to the t-shirt idea. Was response that poor? Erin? I think it would be "cool" to give ourselves an identifying piece of clothing. One thought I had was putting a colour printing of either "Replicas" or TPP on the front and then: Are 'Friends' Electric? "Numanews" The Gary Numan Digest (numan@cs.uwp.edu) on back. Surely out of I assume over 260 subscribers we could get 50 orders. If rec.music.gaffa can do it for Kate Bush why can't we? We have the technology! I also liked Donald's idea of "The Electric Friends". We could advertise the Digest on the Internet music.groups saying: "Come join the Electric 'Friends' at numan@cs.uwp.edu" Any comments? Derek P.S. I cannot take on the responsibility with all the others things I have to do. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Dept. of Biology Tel. (619) 594 2885 San Diego State University Fax (619) 594 7831 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************