Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:00:02 CST From: numan@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #175 Gary Numan Digest Thu, 16 Nov 95 Volume 1 : Issue 175 Today's Topics: "THE DIGEST ASKS GARY - OCTOBER 1995" part 1 "THE DIGEST ASKS GARY - OCTOBER 1995" part 2 An interesting web link Complex Details of 1996 tour Disappointments Gary in Pittsburgh 1980 et alii Human Intro and thoughts Introduction Message Machine+Soul/Sacrifice/The Plan Nu World-Well done! NuWorld rocks! NuWorld Site Separate location for Gary's Q&A sessions? The Plan UNSUBSCRIBE WEEZER AND RENTALS MENTION NUMAN Whoops, correction! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:57:56 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: "THE DIGEST ASKS GARY - OCTOBER 1995" part 1 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu THE DIGEST ASKS GARY - OCTOBER 1995 ------------------------------------- This is the third edition of our monthly interaction with Gary and again his answers continue to give enormous insight. Info on how to send questions are at the end of part 2. The number of questions was down this month which is good as Gary is very busy. The release of 'Exile' has been pushed back to September 1996 due to the Castle Communications compilation release of covers and the possibility that Gary will be signing with them in the New Year. I don't think the added time Gary has spent answering our questions and getting his WWW site running were solely to blame for the delay :-) Again some questions have been reworded. I've done this to save duplication, clarify and in some cases, enable us to get more info from Gary. Try to avoid open ended questions or being critical in unconstructive ways. Remember, this is Gary you are addressing, not a record company exec. Derek ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Tolva (The Machman) of Elgin, Illinois asks: Q1. Are you and your brother John very close to each other (i.e. like doing activities together outside of the music business and flying)? Thanks for all the music and inspiration over the years! A1. Yes, we are very close. To ask about activities outside of flying would perhaps be ignoring the very heart of what brings us so closely together in that we both share the same obsessions albeit with a slightly different emphasis. Johnis a professional airline pilot who also flies display aeroplanes and tours with me each year as my keyboard player. I, as you know, am a professional musician who also flies aeroplanes as a hobby. However, we have also passed driving tests for a motorcycle licence I did mine on December 1 '94 and John a few months ago. I have a Yamaha XV535 Virago cruiser and John has a Yamaha Diversion. I'm also going to buy a sportsbike faily soon as the Virago is a pig to keep clean in our wonderful climate and so I'm going to make it a summer bike only. ---- Aaron Hannum of Barnegat N.J. USA says: I'm a mechanical engineer who works on aircraft support equipment. Being a mechanical engineer, I am particularly partial to your song "Engineers". Q8. How did you end up being a member of an acrobtic flying team? A8. When I bought my Harvard aeroplane in 1984 I was approached and invited to join a group of other Harvard owners simply to fly around together. That casual arrangement, over a few years, grew into a highly skilled formation team. I also fell in love with aerobatics and so I just merged the two disciplines into one display item. Q9. What do you like and dislike about the Harvard? What other airfaft have you flown? A9. It has a number of things that are less than an ideal. The roll rate is poor, it's underpowered, any number of flaws really but that's what makes it what it is. It is a piece of aviation history so the flaws are actually part of the pleasure of flying such a machine. Q10. Any chance of doing a display in the USA some day? A10. It would be nice. I would need someone to lend me their aeroplane though as I couldn't really bring mine over. Good luck to you and happy flying. ---- Martin Wagner of Austin, Texas, USA asks: Q11. Hello, Gary! I'm one of your US fans who's planning a trip across the pond to see you on your 1996 tour next spring. I was wondering if you might considering offering for sale, at the concert souvenir tables, some of the fan club CDs, such as Radial Pair and the Babylon series, as they're pretty damn hard to come by over here. If any copies are left over by April, you can be sure I'll pick them up. And of course I'll look forward to meeting you at the post-gig hotel party. A11. I doubt that we will make them available at the concerts as we have to specialise a little on tour but they are all available on the NuWORLD web site. NuWORLD is now on-line for test and feedback purposes, prior to its official start day of January 1 1996. You can look in on it and order stuff if you wish by browsing http://www.numan.co.uk Hopefully, a mirror site courtesy of Joey Lindstrom will be operating on the other side of the ocean soon for non Europeans. Q12. Not so much a question as a comment, or a piece of information. A few weeks ago you said selecting a set list was tough because you often didn't really know what fans wanted to hear. It so happens I conducted a poll on this digest a few months back, and here are the 4 most popular song choices submitted by folks on the net: Crash; Telekon; The Aircrash Bureau; The Joy Circuit. A12.Interesting that 3 of them are from the Telekon album considering I've written over 300 songs. Also interesting when I look back and remember that the Telekon album, at the time, sold very much less than Replicas and Pleasure Principle. How opinions seem to change over the years and how difficult it makes it for me to take any notice of them at times. A top 30 would be VERY interesting. ---- Here are that Gary was able to answer at once. James Costa Numan11@aol.com of New Bedford, Massachusetts, USA asked: I've been a fan since 1980. First off I would like to thank you, Gary for contributing so much to my life and also for taking the time out of your busy schedule to answer fans' questions. Q13a. My question is have you ever considered making a CD-Rom. Even if it was only offered to your fanclub members I would think it would be very successful. I have a friend in California who worked on the CD-Rom for the Residents titled Gingerbread Man and as soon as I saw it I thought this would be great for Numan. I hope you consider it. Thank you for everything, and, Michel Lafontaine <102162.2077@compuserve.com> of Montreal, Quebec, Canada asks: Q13b. Have you given any thoughts on putting out a CD rom like others have done recently ? (Again if there were no constraints) A13a and b. I have looked at it, but not with any great intention of actually doing one. It seems to me that they require a fair degree of money to produce and to make one for the fan club only would in no way get that money back. As an example I was asked by the fan club members for years, almost 12 in fact, to put out a Numan calander. This year we did just that and sold less than 450 in total. That's a very small percentage of fan club members and I will definitely NOT be making another one. It cost me a lot of money, a LOT of money, and a CD-Rom would appear to have a much larger potential for eating my wallet than a calander. If things improve in the future I would certainly love to have a go at doing one for the creative vibe of it. ---- Victor Gannon fbs@iol.ie (FBS) Q14. Do you ever intend to do a concert in Ireland? There are still quite a number of your fans interested in seeing you in concert here. Thanks for many years of excellent Music. A14. It depends on how the career goes. Success brings with it the financial security of being able to travel without taking out a second mortgage. Touring in England costs me in excess of =A35,000 a day now, and that i= s after years of fine tuning our operation. In the past it has been as much as =A330,000 a day. As you know, or may do, in the early days I regularly lost a small fortune every time I went out on tour. I can't do that anymore, I don't sell enough records to make up for that kind of loss, so I have to be very careful about where I play. Hopefully, if the new record deal comes along, that situation will change. I hope so. --- Paul Fay of Dublin, Ireland asks: Q15. Could you tell us a bit about Richard Beasley. He seems to be the quiet man of the current band and doesn't get the coverage that Kipper, Ade, John etc seem to get. A15. Richard Beasley is 32 years old I think. I see him regularly, as I do Ade Orange. Richard now lives near Richmond, Surrey, which is kind of West London although not officially. He is married, although seperated, awaiting a divorce. I don't really know much more apart from the fact that he is a brilliant drummer and great fun on tour. Q16. You used to say that each tour was better than the last. Is this still the case or is there a particular tour you look back on and say "That's the one" ? A16. The Dream Corrosion tour was my favourite and the OMD support that followed it strangely enough. Q17. In what ways are you looking to make Exile different to Sacrifice ? A17. Heavier percussion/drums. More anthemic. Very strong and heavy lyrics. A more raw and aggressive guitar style (on songs that have guitar that is). Thanks for all the good times over the years. Don't forget us here in Ireland come tour time and don't tell anyone but I quite like Outland as wel= l. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:59:18 -0800 From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) Subject: "THE DIGEST ASKS GARY - OCTOBER 1995" part 2 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu THE DIGEST ASKS GARY - OCTOBER 1995 (continued from Part 1) ---- >From Andy McHaffie of Reading, Berkshire, UK Hi Gary... When I was growing up as a gay kid (I was 11 in 1979), your lyrics on some songs such as Jo The Waiter, etc etc, and various reasonably positive "gay-friendly" lyrics in other songs helped me a great deal to come to terms with myself (And Everyday I Die helped me come to terms with something else, but lets not go into that !!) Well, I realise youre not gay, but all the same, thanks so much for helping me come through my teenage turmoil! Anyway, when I saw you were playing the G.A.Y. club in London last year I was thrilled ! I had assumed that after your support of the extremely homophobic conservative party in the 80s that a gay club was the last place you would play ! Anyway... Q18. I realise you're not a big fan of discussing politics, but could you give me an idea on where you stand politically, and what your views on the gay age of consent are ? (Currently its 18 for gay men and 16 for everyone else...) A18. First of all I supported the Conservative Party, many years ago now, for their stance on things other than homosexuality, which I believe was the case for most of the non Gay community of Great Britain. Please don't make the slightly naive mistake of believing that all Conservative voters are, are were, anti gay. I'm not that inclined to talk about where I stand politically actually. I'm anti socialist and always will be, but then Labour appears to be anti Socialist as well at the moment doesn't it? I don't really stand anywhere. The Conservatives are in a mess, Labour changes it's tune simply to get into office which doesn't exactly inspire belief or confidence and the others are a waste of space anyway. I feel that the gay age of consent should be the same as the non gay age of consent. It would seem that the government feel that any gay feelings that young people may have may have been 'grown out of' by the age of 18 which I think is insulting and not particularly intelligent. Let people experiment, safely, with who or whatever consents to experiment with them and forget about the 'age of consent' law altogether. ---- Several people are asking about the Live at the Roxy '77 bootleg. Most of the songs are announced on the recording but two are not adn one on the sleeve is different than what is anmnounced. Q19. Can you delve that far back in your memory and fill in the questions marks? title on bootleg title as announced on recording ---------------- ------------------------------- Motherless Faces ? Boys same Blue Eyes same You Don't Know Me ? My Shadow In Vain same Me My Head same That's Too Bad same Basic J same Do Your Best (Friends) same Oh! Didn't I Say same I'm A Poseur same Kill Sir Joy Pure Saint Joy A19. Not all of them. Motherless faces was actually called 'Positive Thinking' You Don't Know Me could be correct. Kill Sir Joy was called Kill St Joy after the owner of the Roxy Club, a man called Kevin St John, wanted certain unsavoury things from me. ---- Jeff Tolva of Elgin, Illinois asks a related question: Q20. Can you remember anything about the Live At The Roxy '78/Vortex '78 7" single bootleg? The tracks listed for this one are: White Light - White Heat b/w Bunch Of Stiffs and "Bunch Of Stiffs" is listed as being by Mean Street with you on guitar and backing vocals. This single supposedly being from '78 leaves me with questions as well as whether the band was really Mean Street then. I can vouch for the single itself since I have it, but I cannot vouch for what it actually contains. Can you help me with these very "early" questions? A20. Again not much. I didn't ever play with Mean Street and so I'm definitely not on the Bunch Of Stiffs track. Don't know about the White Light, White Heat song though. ---- Brian Hammond (bhammond@diana.cair.du.edu), Denver, Colorado, USA asks : Q21. Gary, I really enjoyed listening to the Babylon CDs. In particular, I found "Tribal" to be very interesting. I was amazed at how different the non-chorus parts sounded to the final version, "Call Out The Dogs." I was wondering if you have lots of other early versions of songs and if so, if you have any plans on releasing them in the future? A21. I've found one or two bits that are simply unfinished songs but no other early versions of things you may know. Future plans for the bits are uncertain. Q22. On an the bootleg "Live At The Roxy 1979," you and the old Tubeway Army band played a number of early punk songs that sounded great but I have never heard of anywhere else (e.g. "I'm A Poser," "Pure St. Joy," "Motherless Faces," "Boys," "You Don't Know Me," and "Me, My Head"). Can you recall (and I realise this was all a *long* time ago) if you recorded studio versions of the "Live At The Roxy 1979" songs along with all the others which would later appear on _Tubeway Army_, _The Plan_ and all the early singles? If you did, is it reasonable to assume that Beggar's Banquet has yet to release all of the early material? A22. Don't think so. I'm quite sure that everything that Beggars had recorded of my early stuff has now seen the light of day. Q23. I have many favourite songs of yours, but one of the most treasured is the song "Cry, The Clock Said." Of all the songs you have ever written, this one still stands out of the crowd as being distinctly unique, with its long intro, haunting violin sounds by Nash the Slash, creative yet very personal lyrics, and overall feel of melancholy mixed with contemplation. I was hoping you could say a few things about this song, from what inspired you to write it as you did to how you feel about it today, 15 years later. Incidentially, I think this song would sound great live with the new _Sacrifice_ style and hope you consider using it. A23. The Dance album had a slightly self indulgent feel to it all the way through so I was quite happy to let the 'Cry, The Clock Said' song have such a long intro. I don't think I had any special concept behind it other than that's how it felt it should go at the time. A long, slow build. It was concerned, as much of my early stuff was, with people that I had felt had let me down. I can't remember much more. I'd forgotten that Nash was even on it. Thanks for answering these questions and putting out such great music year after year! Brian Hammond ---- Manish Soni MANISH_SONI_at_PO.SATURN@smtplink.infores.com asks: Dear Gary, Let me first of all begin by thanking you profusely for the many years of great music. Most of my teen years were spent listening almost exclusively to your albums. Q24. It is patently obvious that you have never received your fair share of credit for the innovative and refreshing musical styles you have pioneered, and continue to pioneer. Instead, when the music press has not been hurling abuse at you and your music, they have completely ignored your significant musical contributions. What I would like to ask you is what you personally feel the reason is for such hostile reactions towards you, while many groups with little or no talent receive a disproportionate amount of exposure. I am more interested in your opinion as to WHY you are subjected to this negativity, rather than a list of who put you down and when. A24. Hard to say without asking each and every person why they wrote what they did. I do believe that a group mentality exists that make certain people fashionable to be 'in' to and others not. It takes a brave man or woman in a newspaper/magazine office to praise someone that is 'not' favoured. It may even be that the majority of people in that office actually do like that person or band but won't admit to it for fear of being seen as ou of touch perhaps. I don't know for sure but that may have something to do with some of it. At the moment I seem to be enjoying the early stirrings of my first ever taste of being 'in'. Q25. I read a while ago that you were once forced to land in Vishakapatnam, in India, when you were flying around in the mid-80s, and that you were actaully detained there for a few days while the Indian authorities determined whether you were involved in subversive activities. Being Indian, I would be very interested to hear about what actually happened, how you were treated there, and about your general impressions of the country. You can be honest, as I won't take any offense if the incident didn't leave you with particularly fond memories. A25. We made an emergency landing in Vishakhapatnam due to a rough running engine in my Cessna. We were then arrested, unofficially, and kept under house arrest for 4 days while they decided whether we were spies, smugglers or just adventurers. I thought they treated us very badly, bursting into our rooms in the early hours of the morning demanding that we tell them things we didn't know and that we be 'co-operative', whatever that meant. They confiscated our passports, would only let us travel to a telex machine under armed guard and exposed all of our film, movie and 35mm still, that we had been shootng for a BBC program about our round the world flight. Vishakhapatnam was, without meaning to be rude, a complete pighole. However the people throughout India, outside of officialdom, were excellent and were some of the happiest, friendliest people that I have ever met. The country is vast and impoverished apart from the tiny few of great wealth. While I was in Calcutta I was befriended by a boy who gave me a great story about having to support his entire family and that all he needed was his own rickshaw and he could then be a wealthy man. I bought him the rickshaw business before I left. I would love to know if he actually made anything out of it or whether he was just conning me. ---- Derek Langsford of San Diego, California, USA asks: Q26. Which neighborhood of Los Angeles did you live in back in 1982? Can you remember the street or address (no I won't be making a pilgrimage :-) ? A26. I lived at the apartments at the top of Horn Avenue, off Sunset if memory still holds, and I had a house that i got to by driving up Doheny something or other. I can't remember the address or the name of the road that it was on only that it was brilliant, had its own swimming pool and was on the top of a hill that overlooked the entire city of Los Angeles. Loved it. ---- Michel Lafontaine <102162.2077@compuserve.com> of Montreal, Quebec, Canada asks: To begin I'd just want to say thanks for all the joy you've provided to us all over the years. Now for the questions: Q27. You've explored violins,the fretless bass,the sax and a few other stuff; are there any instruments you would like to use or feature if you had no constraints whatsoever ? A27. Not really. I'm more interested in sound than in instruments so it will depend on what 'sounds' interest me in the future. That may lead me towards a certain insrument. Nothing in mind at the moment though. Q28. Most of your records have your picture on them except for a few singles, why is that as opposed to an artwork of some kind ? I'd love to see a contest where the fans could submit ideas for the next sleeve design...Subject to your approval of course ! A28. I actually prefer to design my own sleeves thanks. I hadn't really thought about it but I suppose the main reasons for having my picture on the sleeves is to introduce new images for one thing, it's easier to slap on a gppd steely eyes piccy than figure out some clever artwork and finally i would have to confess to ego. ---- Trent J Jakubec (jakubec@mpr.ca) of Burnaby, BC, Canada V5A 4B5 says: Greetings: I have but one simple question, and this is based on the fact that we do all kinds of reviews, votes, wish lists, etc. Q29. "Do you have any questions you would like to ask of us? Given the amount of time and effort you put into responding to ours, it seems only fair we provide you with some knowledge you might be interested in (assuming there is any)." Trent (in a still unified country - for now) A29. I have a vast amount, mainly to people who complain and all of them to individuals. Somethings have to be done face to face. ---- Vince Attard, from Tampa, Florida asks: Gary, I can speak for everyone when I say that we are all very excited to see what tracks you decide to play next tour and put on the next live CD. Q30. I was wondering if you could give us an idea of any particular tunes you have in mind to rehearse, whether they be songs you've never done or something you haven't done for quite a while? A30. Quite a few that I've not done before for sure. Some from way back like 'Sleep By Windows' are being considered. I'm a long way from really getting down to it and deciding though. The Exile album going back has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works as well. Q31. When you performed "My Shadow in Vain" on stage from 1984-1988, you changed most of the verses lyrically. Why was that? A31. Forgot the words. I wrote that song when I was about 18 so no wonder I struggle with that one. I can't remember the words to the song I just wrote. Before I began writing these answers I wrote the lyric and recorded a vocal for a new song called 'An Alien Cure'. It took about an hour or so to decide just how to sing it, trying various styles, and I still couldn't remember the words. I've got no chance on stage. Strange thing is I can remember a mass of speeds, oil pressure and temperature limits for the aeroplane, all manner of techy type procedures and numbers but I cannot remember my own phone number after having it for years and I can't remember my own lyrics. Q32. Any chances you may re-enter another character or image for future albums or are those days long gone? A32. Maybe. To be absolutely honest it's my age that inhibits me from doing that kind of thing now. It doesn't feel right anymore. ---- Thanks as always, Gary Numan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Send your questions via email to Derek Langsford with a subject line of: Gary's Qs Please include your real name and the town/city, county/province/state and country where you are located. Please follow these directions carefully and don't post your questions to the Digest as that means more work for me :-( I reserve the right to delete and edit questions for content or length. Till next month, Derek __________________________________________________________________________ Derek Langsford "Numanews" dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu The Gary Numan Digest SDSU Dept of Biology email numan-request@cs.uwp.edu San Diego, CA for information or to subscribe __________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:19:10 MST From: numanoid@netway.ab.ca (Joey Lindstrom) Subject: An interesting web link To: numan@cs.uwp.edu A local radio station here in Calgary has featured my "World Wide Webb" Gary Numan fan page on their site (from November 13th to probably about November 27th). You can take a look at: http://www.kikfm.com/calweb.html This positive feedback's goin' to my head.... :-) /--------------------------------------------------------- / Joey Lindstrom / numanoid@netway.ab.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:08:12 -0800 From: Sue and Russ Ashworth Subject: Complex To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi, I switched mail providers, and lost the list for a while. The last thing I recall as the lights went out, was that Gary is looking for ideas for his possible "Unplugged" album. (Ok, this may be wishful thinking) Can the person who is in touch with him please pass on my humble request that he consider Complex for this album? To this day I consider Complex the most beautiful piece of music ever. It still gives me goosebumps. Gary, the only thing wrong with it is that it's too darn short. Please do it again. Please make it longer. Heck, you could make it 10 minutes long and it would be wonderful. Thank you for listening. ==================================================================== *Sue*ashworth@netnation.com*.*Evil X-Phile*Duchovniks'-Poet-Laureate Naughtyspawn*.*Sus/zanne Clone*.*Carreyholic*.*HOTELer*.*Boatbuilder *Electric "Friend"*.*Trekkie*.*Interpreter of Innuendo*.*82% impure* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:49:41 GMT From: James Sabin Subject: Details of 1996 tour To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi Derek Birmingham. 0121-236-2392 is now Birmingham. 0121-605-6666 hope you are well Any news of the Berserker CD ???? Gaz v=====v=====v\ 0 __ | James Sabin T\ :. . . \,_/_G _>_ | Principal Software Engineer __I_`v=====v=====v__ /|______| Delcam Development (Data Exchange) T T | | | gjs@delcam.co.uk I I ^ ^ | Tel:0121-766-5544 (+44 121-766-5544) | Fax:0121-766-5511 (+44 121-766-5511) "Blue end, red balls, deep screw!" "This mind left intentionally blank" ------------------------------ Date: 13 Nov 95 16:44:48 EST From: Colin Edwards <100025.463@compuserve.com> Subject: Disappointments To: Numan Digest article Well, bit of a bad week all in all. Firstly to discover that the Hammersmith date of next year's tour has changed. Then to hear on the Fan Club newsline that Exile will be delayed until September 1996. Still, I got hold of Human over the weekend, had a listen, and it's well worth the money (only 8 pounds over here, I was stunned at the price!!!!). Definitely some of the stuff off Sacrifice, Machine and Soul, and Outland, can be heard in bits on this instrumental album. Now, as I said in my most recent posting, I am not normally one to criticise Gary, but for the first time in 16 years of being a fan, something has lead me to change my ways. Exile being delayed is a big disappointment. Not since the early days have I looked forward to an album so much. Sacrifice was an unknown quantity, and with it following Machine and Soul, expectation was not as high as that for Exile. In fact the single Question of Faith was not a good pointer to the material on Sacrifice. News that Exile will be even darker and moodier than Sacrifice, and the subsequent release of Absolution, have whetted my appetite. Surely Gary could have some influence on Castle Communications to delay the 'Techno Army' album, which far from sounding like a tribute album (which I thought meant different artists performing on each song), sounds more like a remix album. If they are insistent on releasing it around the same time as Exile, then so be it. I know that I will be first in line to buy Exile, but I won't be buying the 'Techno Army' album until I have heard at least a couple of the tracks. I fail to see who this album is being targetted at. Fans will obviously be interested, and if by all accounts it is more rave/dance oriented style, then some sales to fans of this 'music' may be interested. If Gary is hoping that interest in the 'Techno Army' album will be reflected in increased sales of Exile, then this may well happen, but I doubt that many of these 'newbies' will be impressed by a dark, haunting, moody album. Could we see a change of heart by Gary over Exile? Will he remix the tracks already in the pipeline to appeal to those likely to buy 'Techno Army'? The only good news about the dealy in Exile, is that Gary hinted at another tour in 1996, to promote Exile when it is released. However, my message is, don't delay Exile!!! Colin............the strangest living boy......... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 00:36:34 -0800 (PST) From: atomic@netcom.com (Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City) Subject: Gary in Pittsburgh 1980 et alii To: numan@cs.uwp.edu >From: "Jeff Colaw, 224E, 7473" > >I have been a Numan-fan since seeing Gary in concert in Pittsburgh in 1980, Oh, COOL! At the Stanley Theatre! Touring Principle in February, when Nash the Slash opened for him, or Teletour in October? I made it to the latter, it was one of the best concerts of my life. I mourned when they turned the Stanley into an opera house. :-P >although I can't say I'm a fanatic. A rememberance of the concert was during >Down In The Park the result of the tremendous amplification system caused the >huge two-story chandeliers to start swaying, disconcertingly I might add. I found the way the stage swayed and threatened to collapse under Gary's weight during "M.E." to be a bit more worrisome....so did Gary, from the look on his face. :) >From: Robert Trousdale > > To Ziggy - YOU DON't WRITE ME ANYMORE :-( Me neither. And after all the times I quoted you in my .sig, too.... *sigh* mike -- mike metlay * atomic city | = atomic@netcom.com = | WORDS OF WISDOM FROM ATOMIC CITY #42: cd mailorder po box 81175 | Kurt Geisel, on platform loyalty pittsburgh, pa 15217-0675 | or order from our website | "I'm off the Amiga since having been given http://pd.net/atomic-city | my Microsoft brain implant....." or via infinite illusions | toll free: 1-800-548-6724 | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:10:08 -0500 From: Jeffnuma@aol.com Subject: Human To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Yes, I am one of the lurkers (although no more)...but one who has suddenly heard something to talk about. I just received the Human CD. I think it is excellant. I have always enjoyed his ballads and instrumentals... so, a whole album of instrumentals is a welcome addition to my CD collection. The moods created by the tracks on this album range from haunting to up-beat. I am curious as to whether or not Gary will pursue sound tracks in the future. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 19:36:49 GMT From: tnp Subject: Intro and thoughts To: numan@cs.uwp.edu %UNIPLEX %TO numan@cs.uwp.edu %FROM tnp %SYSTEM UNIPLEX %SUBJECT Intro and thoughts %VERIFY y %REGISTERED y %DATE 15/11/95 19:36 %REFERENCE 777908 Hi All, Recently joined the list, so had better introduce myself... Like many, my first recollection of Gary was seeing "Are Friends Electric?" on TV in 1979. Instant thought, "this is great" having been made to suffer for some years before my older sister's liking for the "teen rubbish" of the mid/late 1970's. The interest remained rather dormant until a friend at school told me of a brilliant concert he had just seen (this was 1980 in Sydney, Australia and the Capitol Theatre concerts had just taken place). He had some records and would I like to listen to some great stuff about a dystopian futureworld (well, OK, not in those words exactly!). Just from the description, this sounded great and listening to the tracks on "Replicas" for the first time was a revelation. I immediately realised this was the guy I had seen on TV several months before. "Replicas" and "PP" were soon bought and the black vinyl release of "Tubeway Army" obtained on order from a record shop as well. The "Cars" single was added for good measure. The next thought was when would I be able to see a GN concert? Reading the sleeve notes to "Living Ornaments" when I got that (with the news - to me - that Gary would not be doing any more concerts) was a bitter disappointment. Still, at least the records were still there and once I bought "Dance" and played it once or twice (in a single sitting each time as others on the list have recently said is necessary), I realised that although the style may have changed, Gary's music and lyrics (particularly) were as good as ever. After "I, Assassin" it started to get difficult to find GN records in Australia, although I did get the "White Noise" LP's. Imagine my surprise then on returning to England in recent years to find that Gary was still regularly putting on concerts. The "Sacrifice" concert was terrific for someone who had waited nearly 15 years to see Gary on stage and I thought the album was brilliant when I got it, "Deadliner" and "Question of Faith" especially. To cap it all I have recently found Matthew Holbrook's Nu-Zone (brilliant, Matthew and thanks) and the concert in the planned "Exile" tour next year nearest where I live (Guildford Civic Hall) is on my Birthday - thanks Gary!! For around 15 years now, Gary's music has been the single most important element of my music listening - every time I play a record of his there seems to be more to find in the lyrics and the emotions expressed in them. It was through "Replicas" that I was introduced to the books of Phillip K Dick and others. Unlike others on the list, I'm afraid that I am not a musician myself, but the GN records I have will always be very special to me. At least with this list I know there are still plenty of others to whom GN is much more than "That strange guy who did 'Cars'", which was the reaction I often got when I mentioned Gary. That's more than enough from me for now... Cheers, Tim Parsons tnp@cmh.co.uk PS To Robert Trousdale - not the Bombers in the premiership this year - Carlton if you had not heard!! %UEND ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 18:30:16 -0800 (PST) From: mrowe@netcom.com (michael rowe) Subject: Introduction Message To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello!! I have found out about this wonderful Numan service on the net from one of the callers to my BBS. I run a BBS, and have done so for the last 6 years, devoted to programming. It is called Numan's -- A Programming forum. I have been a Gary Numan fan since I first heard Cars, and I must say it is now one of my least favorite songs. When ever I mention Gary to anyone they only remember Cars, I get out some Replicas or Dance and at once I have a new Gary Numan Fan. I have most of his albums that were released in the US up until New Anger. It is almost impossible to find any other Numan albums in Atlanta, But I keep trying. I have some of the newer compilation albums, but I am looking forward to getting some of teh more recent numbers. If anyone is interested in programming, check out my BBS at 1-(770)-498-7905. Michael Rowe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:33:41 -0500 (EST) From: Glen Sutton Subject: Machine+Soul/Sacrifice/The Plan To: Gary Numan Digest Thanks to the kindness and generousity of a certain Numaniac (you know who you are!) who sent me a dupe of Sacrifice and excerpts from Machine + Soul I have been witness to more Numan genious. I found Sacrifice to be a great new extension of that "Numanesque" quality that many have been talking about, and yet there are great new elements in there as well. I think his use of the drum loops (I'm assuming they are sample loops) were creative (although many sounded similar) and helped tie the whole thing together nicely. I can't wait to get ahold of an actual copy of my own soon, and one to send to a freind as a gift. Machine + Soul: Can this man get any funkier? I loved this album (or at least the excerpts that I have)!! Gary can sure spoon up a heaping helping of groove and soul when he wants to!! I have heard quite a few of these tunes from singles and live albums that I had, such as the Skin Game, Machine and Soul, and Dark Mountain. But the tracks that were new to me such as I Wonder, Cry, Love Isolation, etc blew my socks off. The minimalist approach to I wonder (with that tasty funky little beatbox groove) with the piano and ambient vox/synth pads that wash and phase are lovely. The bells here and there punctuating the chorus are nice. Such a great song. One of my most favorite on this release. The fade out is cool. He does that so well. Another surprise and major fave of mine is the infectious and jazzy Cry. I can almost not believe this is Gary, but after loving White Boys and Heros and We take Mystery's serious funky vibes...I have to know this is 100% funkified Numan. The fem vox on this cut are fab. The woo oohs and all! I nearly shouted out loud listening to this track in my headphones (I was on MARTA bus -Atlanta Mass Transit) when I first heard the awesome piano solo and laughed out loud at the "You have just heard 8 seconds of silence..." sample. Briliant!!!!!!!! I mean this in all humility and respect, but this cut should send Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis running for cover or at least back to groove school!!! I would love to know if he cut the piano himself of not, because that is some serious playing!!!!! I was motivated and inspired by this whole album. If anyone is interested, I'll send some roughs of what I've been working on. Love Isolation: Made me cry. Broke my heart. Did everything a great love ballad should. And with such originality and style. BTW, I work part time in a record store and will be managing it soon (I think) and have been playing these albums since I got them, and many people have said, "man, who is this cat? I like this a lot." I tell them Gary Numan and they stare slack jawed at me. "Can I get this here?" they ask. "I wish" i reply sadly. I tell them I'll try. OOpps! I just noticed I surpassed the read limit of 40 lines per posting. Till next time. Your Electric friend. Glen "Like a life long friend" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zendrum Corporation e-mail:Zendrum@RandomC.com PO Box 15369 Atlanta, Georgia 30333 - the future of electronic drumming- (404) 874-6824 fax:(770) 425-0755 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:50 PST From: dlgeer@spider.lloyd.com (dlg) Subject: Nu World-Well done! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I just checked out Gary's new official web site!!! Congradulations are in order!First of all,I would like to congragulate him for his great looking web site!Second, I would like to congradulate him on the exellent navigational gates instaled in his new site! I must confess,that I viewd this page in Netscape 2.0. If there are any problems I didn't notice any,aside from the occasional and usual absence of a departmental icon and or picture.I will add that it helps to expand your screen and hide the Netscape control bar.The initial dificulties are worth it,you will learn to navigate around them! Last,I must comend Gary for showing his gratitude to the" movers & shakers" of the "Numan following" Internet comunity;The Tubeway,The Nu Zone,The Numan FAQ,& The World Wide Webb!True testimony to the kind of man Gary must be! Fred Geer dlgeer@spider.lloyd.com(dlg) David G ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: Stevorama Subject: NuWorld rocks! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Wow. I just hit NuWorld for the first time...to say I am impressed is an understatement. Even with an Amiga with Mosaic (yeah, I know), the graphics are awesome; so many pictures I had never seen (even one of Gemma! Not bad at all...;) ) This is just another example of how much Gary does for his fans. Is it any wonder we are so loyal? Cheers and thanks to Gary and his staff, and to Matthew (for helping him set it up if I recall correctly). This is a great and exciting time for Gary, and WE ARE THERE!!!! Waiting for "Berserker"- Steve ------------------------------------------------------------- If we had some eggs we could have ham and eggs, if we had some ham. ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:02:00 UTC 0000 From: sm@genie.com Subject: NuWorld Site To: numan@cs.uwp.edu This is a nice juicy link to throw into the magazine, as well as onto msn (whichever way I can do it.) I'd frankly love to nail Gary down for an msn chat, but I'm not sure I can easily justify it under my current Forum.... Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:45:24 MST From: lindstrj@cadvision.com (Joey Lindstrom) Subject: Separate location for Gary's Q&A sessions? To: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu On Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:15:03 -0800 you wrote: >Hello everyone,>As this month's Q&A session will only be the third it will not take much to >pull them together as separately accessible files. I think it would be a >good idea as it would give allow p[eople to check if their question has >been asked already before emailing it to me. We seem to average about 32K >once a month for these Q & A sessions so they are not going to accumulate >too fast in terms of storage space. > >If someone was really enthusiastic they could type in the Q&A's from the FC >newletters for this too :-) > >Changes will be made to the Digest intro letter etc in the near future and >thsi sounds like a good idea. Not that many take notice of the end credits >because many post to the Digest to unsubscribe :-( But, if info is there >and subscribers know where to find it, then maybe it would be a reasonable >place. > >So, if we do store the Q & A sessions separately where would they go? Can >cs.uwp.edu take another section under the pub/music/lists/numan/digest >directory? Joey, would you be willing to place them on your World Wide >Webb? If we can decide to do it, and where they will be locoated then HTML >links can be made and sites included in the FAQ. Absolutely - but this'll take upwards of a week. In the meantime, here's the URL of where they *WILL* be once they're available. Text version http://www.netway.ab.ca/numanoid/askgary.txt Web version http://www.netway.ab.ca/numanoid/askgary.html The text version will basically contain a (growing) list of the questions and answers. The Web version will be broken down on a monthly basis (ie: you can select just one month's questions and access only those if you like). I'll make another announcement once they're online "for sure". :-) /--------------------------------------------------------- / Joey Lindstrom / numanoid@netway.ab.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:50:50 -0500 (EST) From: Glen Sutton Subject: The Plan To: Gary Numan Digest Almost forgot..... meant to mention that I just recently found a taped copy of the Plan I had in a box (since I moved) and was truly energized and excited by those songs again. So much energy. Note the song Steel and You has a great funky drummer type beat. (Warming up my sampler as we speak). What a great song, and album. Anyway...bye again! Glen I can see in your eyes you're not so sure about me this machine is my voice, please listen it's so noisy and bright, and I just love being here this machine will last for my life ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zendrum Corporation e-mail:Zendrum@RandomC.com PO Box 15369 Atlanta, Georgia 30333 - the future of electronic drumming- (404) 874-6824 fax:(770) 425-0755 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:42:46 -0500 From: lexi@big12.metrobbs.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: numan@cs.uwp.edu please remove me from the mailing li{st ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:20:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Vincent Attard (COM)" Subject: WEEZER AND RENTALS MENTION NUMAN To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Here's the deal:::: Weezer was in a recent DETAILS article and were asked to list some of their most influential tracks and Numan's "FILMS" was one of them!! Second, for those of you not familiar with them THE RENTALS are a side project from two members of Weezer. The Rentals have a current video in rotation on MTV called "Friends of P" which is actually now a buzz clip. Well anyway, on the band's album on the track "Sweetness and Tenderness", one of the verses says: Just like Gary Numan says Your so cold and distant A reference to "Conversation". For those of you out there who dig Moog keyboard sounds, you need to check out this CD because every song is based on Moog sounds. It sounds very "new wave" ish, reminds me a lot of a cross between Weezer, Gary Numan, The Cars and (fill in anything here) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 21:29:26 MST From: lindstrj@cadvision.com (Joey Lindstrom) Subject: Whoops, correction! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu The correct URL's for the "Ask Gary" segments (as they've appeared in this Digest) are: http://www.netway.ab.ca/numanoid/confession.txt http://www.netway.ab.ca/numanoid/confession.html They should be online in more or less complete form by the time you read the Thursday Digest (assuming this email makes it in time!) ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************