Gary Numan Digest Thu, 11 Jul 96 Volume 1 : Issue 243 Today's Topics: ADMINISTRIVIA desperation DID YOU GET MY NU E-MAIL ADDRESS? Mailing lists at cs.uwp.edu MIDI/MOD Files New Numan Tribute Album numan tribute cd(s)? Oh, a couple of things... REPLICAS Shampoo Story So far.......more disappointment Webb Squared ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:58:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek Langsford Subject: ADMINISTRIVIA To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Just a reminder that requests to subscribe, unsubscribe or change addresses should be emailed to Dave Datta at numan-request@cs.uwp.edu and not to me as I just have to forward them to Dave. If you change addresses, let Dave know the old one so that he can remove it from the list. Also, a reminder to *NOT* simply reply to the previous Digest but to create a new subject line. Create a new email don't just hit "r". Multiple subjects of "Gary Numan Digest V1 #XXX are not that helpful in telling subscribers what your post concerns, and also makes locating inormation in previous issues harder. Last thing, if you miss issues of the Gary Numan Digest you can download them via the WWW from Joey Lindstrom's World Wide Webb site. Joey is keeping up to date with each issue. If you don't have WWW access email me. I don't think all back issues will be availble at uwp until the Digest switch to archive is complete. Dave is waiting on another to install the things and as you can imagine, this takes a low priority compared to real work. So please do your part to help the Digest run smoothly and make it as interesting and useful as possible for everyone else. Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Dept. of Biology Tel. (619) 594 2885 San Diego State University -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Erin Tavano Subject: desperation To: numan@cs.uwp.edu please join my band. i don't care what you play. i want to find some other people so me and ronan (guitar player) don't have to practice in my Boston bedroom anymore. it doesn't sound much like gary but it's still cool. please email me (etavano@ccs.neu.edu). ObNuman: my shrink gave me a tape copy of replicas when i was seventeen and i listened to it in my car a lot. i love "you are in my vision." erin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:45:15 +0100 From: Erik Bystrom Subject: DID YOU GET MY NU E-MAIL ADDRESS? To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi Derek, I recently sent you a message informing you that I have changed my e-mail address to prophecy@cyberia.ie So far I've received no reply and miss the digest and all the latest news very badly!!! Please send me a brief message to let me know that you are aware of my address change. I would appreciate all future digests(as well as the last 6) to be sent to this address Derek. Best wishes, Stephen Barrett ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:58:17 -0500 From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta) Subject: Mailing lists at cs.uwp.edu To: aftertouch-cafe, cmc, eloy, emdreams, hats, jarre, kraftwerk, mood-control, I have been asked by the owner of cs.uwp.edu to reduce the number of lists running on the machine. Current plans are to replace the machine with a new one as soon as possible. At this point, I don't have the time to set up the majordomo list software on another machine. The reason for this message is to find out if there are people currently on the lists who may be able to make them available on other sites. I have been told that I don't have to kill the lists now but I should expect to move them off at some point in the near future. My guess is that nothing will happen until at least January 1997. The lists currently running here are: aftertouch-cafe cmc eloy emdreams hats jarre kraftwerk mood-control new-age-radio numan omd post-classical space-music tadream yello The eloy, mood-control, and post-classical lists have not had any traffic since early May and early June. Those lists will probably be removed first. -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:07:29 +0000 From: Phil Marsh Subject: MIDI/MOD Files To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I was just wondering if anyone had ever come up with any Numan tracks as MIDI or MOD files. There are tons for other artists on the web from Abba to ZZTop - has anyone come across any Numan tracks? Phil (pmarsh@tpmde.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:43:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Mesplay Subject: New Numan Tribute Album To: Numan List Robert asked about this new tribute album, originally mentioned by Ashley from Australia. (Aside to Robert -- I'm surprised you didn't recognize any of those bands. Not even Kill Switch...Klick? They're LOCAL!) Anyway, it's a project by a Pacific Northwest group called the Northwest Electroindustrial Coalition, or NEC. These are, you guessed it, bands who make electronic/industrial music. I have a message into them asking for more info on availability. If I can grab hold of a copy, I'll post a review. It's always interesting to read people's bios on this Digest and find out what kinds of music (besides GN, of course) you all like. There are a couple of industrialites out there, but not many. A lot of you favor 80's synthpop, but hardly anyone fesses up to liking noise or experimental. Merely an observation. -- Lisa from Seattle, where we do have other music besides (ugh) GRUNGE. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:03:22 -0500 From: wkgdream@bway.net (waking dream) Subject: numan tribute cd(s)? To: numan@cs.uwp.edu greetings to all, i have read on the net that there is a numan tribute cd planned, and now it seems there may be more than one? a kind member of this list relayed a track listing of a cd put together by the nec called "Ghost of A White Face Clown". this is different from the report i had read (at nuworld perhaps?) of a cd still in the works with "top acts being turned away" for lack of space. that follows the rumour i had heard of nine inch nails and jesus jones being on it. all of this is quite distressing since i had hoped to get in contact with the label releasing the tribute. i have a band called december (see url below for more info if you wish), and an early obsession with gary numan's music put me on the track to becoming a musician. i had hoped to cover something from 'dance', my favorite album (still have the beggars banquet vinyl - 2nd copy after i wore out the first). if anyone has any more detailed info please reply to me at this address. it would be very much appreciated. thank you, d. waking dream: the december website and other dark links http://www.bway.net/~wkgdream ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:11:52 +0100 From: "Paul Denman (The Complex)" Subject: Oh, a couple of things... To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello all, Firstly blatent plug for my Web site: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/complex.d2/contents.htm There's a new 'Guest Book' page there for you all to visit, leave comments, and contact other Numan fans; kind of like a Pen-Pals page for EMails. Give it a visit & see what you think. I'm also transcribing old UK Numan interviews, dating from '79 onwards. They're on a page called 'Thoughts No.x' ; if you've got a particularly rare interview, type it up & mail it to me & I'll include it in the section. Numan has just announced he is to work with Wayne Hussey from The Mission; excellent news! Should be interesting; Wayne's been in bands as diverse as; Pauline Murray & the Invisible Girls, Dead or Alive, Sisters of Mercy, and The Mission. Can't imagine what the resulting sound will be like, should be good though! Finally, apologies for a little jibe at Matthew regarding him putting 'Nu-Zone' logos on cover artwork; uncalled for I admit, Matthew & sorry. Was meant with a huge grin though! Ta-ra for now, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:04:46 GMT -0500 From: "Dan Coffeyx3685" Subject: REPLICAS To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hard to put into words in a few short paragraphs...When this album was released, i was 13 and, being from the USA (Princeton, NJ), It wasn't as readily available here as the UK, so I had already bought the forthcoming Pleasure Principle and Living Ornaments lps.... Imagine my surprise hearing the studio versions of AFE and Down In the Park after the Ornaments album.... Live, they are slow starting, and develop a somber mood before they kick into full force about 1 or 2 minutes into the song. Replicas became even more attractive for me because of this...the studio versions are so spacey, yet Gary is able to put so much atmosphere and many futuristic qualities into a 4 minute pop song. Me, I disconnect w/ you (agree w/ Derek)..a classic opening track...the song that gave me chills the first time, was definitely the Machman...especially the chorus. The album rolls on with lyrical genius and 'seat of the pants' abandon, as Gary seemed to really put his futuristic vision into words....'You are in my Vision' still remains today as one of my favorites of all time. The clicking of Jess's drumsticks in the beginning...need I say more? 'When the Machines Rock' took the album into another direction, following the raunch rock of 'It must have been years', and I imagined (for some strange reason) the flintstones driving in their car for this song....(must've been the 'rock' motif), but it was a fun,playfully cartoonish song that led into the pondering, somber, more mature 'I nearly Married a Human' leaving me staring at the ceiling listening to every grandfather clock-type beat that fades out, ending the LP. Can't say enough about the revolution that this album started for me; it influenced my thinking in many ways..especially in a musically transitional time...I was a Kiss fan prior to this period :) And Gary really relayed the musical feel, IMHO, w/ the album cover imagery.... DAN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 14:58:56 BST From: P Lindsay Subject: Shampoo To: numan@cs.uwp.edu 'llo everyone, Someone on the digest recently mentioned that Shampoo (terrible UK teeny band) had released a version of Cars as part of a B-side for their latest single, Girl Power. So I went and bought it (99p). While the A-side is pretty dire, Cars is actually _ace_ ! Against all the musical odds, I really enjoyed it. It is short, snappy, upbeat, dancy and well done. It's not doom-laden as Gary has been tending towards recently, and as a result I think it's more listenable than it could have been. %-). Does anyone know what Shampoo were meant to have said about Gary and Gemma in this alleged article ? I tried to find I.D.Magazine but couldn't. It seems strange that they would have a go at Gary while covering one of his songs. They were also very complementary towards him in an interview in NME about 3-4 months ago, which makes it even stranger. Of course, they have got a bit of a reputation for acting slightly oddly and inconsistantly anyway, but still.... On another subject, has anyone downloaded the latest samples from Exile ? I'm having great trouble resisting it, but the last time I listened to the new songs as they were written (Machine & Soul, over the phone), I was bored by the album when it came out. M&S was not a good album anyway, but I tired of it much faster because I knew most of the songs already. We've got samples of six (?) Exile songs already (and I hate Absolution). How many more before we know what's going to be on the whole album? I don't want to know ! I know you'll say that I don't have to download them, but you don't understand! I do! And then I'll have wrecked his (hopefully) best album yet by the time it comes out ! I know this is something that I'll just have to deal with on my own, but Gary isn't making this easy for me. I'm going to try and calm down now. bye Phil Loughborough University P.S. Vannessa Chesterton - your relationship with your brother sounds a lot like mine with my younger sister. I indoctrinated her to the cause over a period of about five years, and she finally came with me to see Gary in concert up in Glasgow over Easter. She thought I was very strange, but I know she enjoyed it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:42:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Derek Langsford Subject: Story So far.......more disappointment To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Tony Boies sent me timing details for disc 1 of this set and they have used the album CD edits for this disc, not the 7" versions like I was hoping for. This means the only new-to-CD material are the 5 Isolate Tour tracks, which apparently, have been poorly mixed. So for those of us who already have all Gary's album CDs, this is virtually a complete waste of money, unless you are a completist. This will be even more so if Gary releases the Isolate Tour on CD sometime in the future. Let's hope he mixes it properly though. Sigh, Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Dept. of Biology Tel. (619) 594 2885 San Diego State University -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 09:44:57 -0600 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: Webb Squared To: "numan@cs.uwp.edu" Coupla quick notes: 1) Anyone trying to access the World Wide Webb site over the last few days will have noticed that it's broken. :) My net provider is moving to a new, larger office. This broke the link temporarily, and once they moved in they did a complete overhaul on the server computer... which, temporarily, resulted in some of you getting a "you have followed an outdated link" message. Bear with us - this should be resolved shortly. 2) This past weekend I took a road trip with my mom and sister out to Bateman, Saskatchewan, a place I lived and went to school in for a few years as a young lad. This was the school's 75th anniversary (thus the road trip - it was a reunion bash)... unfortunately, it was also its last one, as the reunion doubled as a school (and town) closure ceremony. Anyways, WHILE DRIVING OUT THERE, about 30km west of Swift Current (in Saskatchewan), along the Trans Canada Highway.... we saw a road sign leading to a rather interestingly-named little town. It's called "Webb". :) If all went well with my camera, I should soon have a spiffy image scanned on my web site, from a photo I took of the road sign one kilometer from the town. It's rather funny... but I'll invite you to come see it when it's online. :) /--------------------------------------------------------- / Joey Lindstrom numanoid@netway.ab.ca lindstrj@cadvision.com / http://www.netway.ab.ca/worldwidewebb/ / "I view life as a big, desperate bear loose in the campground. I try / to avert its gaze, because if you make eye-contact, it thinks you want / to play, it doesn't know its own strength, and it starts beating the / living shit out of you... all in the name of good, clean kodiak fun." / - Dennis Miller ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************