Gary Numan Digest Thu, 26 Sep 96 Volume 1 : Issue 265 Today's Topics: carling clip List Newbie Man In A White Car Matthew Holbrook Does It Again! Reviews of Two Covers The Unborn Warren Cann ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:23:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: na468@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Dietrich) Subject: carling clip To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello Numanoids, about an hour ago it happens (22.9. at about 4pm) ... I was looking TV (the formula1 gp in portugal) when I switched the channel to another german TV channel, called RTL2: Absolutely paralysed because I first heared 'Cars' and then realized that this was the 'Carling Premier' Advertising Clip, what there was presented !!! The TV Program is called 'Hotzpotz', where the best actual comericals will be presented in a chart. The Carling Clip was at rang 5. >>I must not tell you, how my adrenalin has been exposed ... :-) , because I logically haven't seen this clip before<< Of course, the music is only 50 percent of a clip, but what would be that clip without the dynamic of 'Cars' ?!? Note that the TV spectators are always requested to vote for these clips. So no question my vote is on the way. Looking forward to next sunday, hoping to see the clip again and then in full length!!! (Yes, here in germany we fans are satisfied with such little things ... :-) ) Maybe this is worth a mention in the news area of NuZone or NuWorld? I will try to find out if there is any reference to Gary in the background at the evening at the www sites of the RTL2 TV channel: http://www.rtl2.de searching for the TV-show 'HOTZPOTZ'. (germans (maybe others too) can "Vote for the Carling Clip" via sending a postcard to: RTL2 - "HOTZPOTZ" Bavariafilmplatz 7 82031 Gruenwald ) By, M a r k u s -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 96 00:39:25 -0400 From: Steven_Hampton@stratus.com Subject: List Newbie To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello all! My name is Steve Hampton. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, USA. I'm a new member of the list and have been a Numanoid since 1979!!! The last 13 Numan years have been quiet ones for me as I heard nothing of new music. NOW...thanks to the Internet, that has all changed!!! I'm currently celebrating both the new and old stuff. I was introduced to the NUer-stuff (Berserker) by a friend of mine on the Icehouse-list. I loved it and wanted more, more, more!!! I'm a keyboard player and have a medium sized setup and grew up under the heavy influence of Gary Numan/Icehouse/Talk Talk/Howard Jones/ and other synthesizer oriented music. Gary's music is responsible for me making the change from playing the drums to keys way back in '79. Anytime I go to a record shop I always check the Numan section to see if they still remember. They've always had a GN bin, but nothing had ever been in stock...that is...up until 3 or 4 months ago! Lately the bins have been stocked full of "Here I AM" and "The Other Side OF Numan" CD's. I wish there were more, lots more, but two are better than none, I suppose. And, in places I would have never expected like Circuit City (a nation-wide consumer electronics store chain here in the US)! Can't wait to start seeing mail from this list and the release of the new "Exile" CD!!! PS: Hope Gary can get that major record distribution deal so that records and tours can start making it across the pond once again!!! Cheers, steveh - Atlanta, Georgia, USA. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:58:29 -0700 From: real-one@ix.netcom.com (John Marques Carramao) Subject: Man In A White Car To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) In the recently released book 'Yes Years' Biography, Trevor Horn related that the 'Yes' song 'Man In A White Car' off of the 'Drama' L.P. released in 1980 is about Gary Numan. Trevor knew of Gary Numan and had seen him driving his White Stingray Corvette around London. This is quite possibly the first song ever written about Gary Numan and coming from no less than one of the all time greatest progressive bands to come out of the 1960's is truly a compliment, add to the fact that the 'Drama' L.P., as the great Chris Squire puts it, was definitely punkier, a real break in tradition for 'Yes' and indeed influenced by the sounds of 1979, which Gary was a big part of. For the benefit of those who don't own the 'Drama' L.P. by Yes here are the lyrics: Man In A White Car I see a man in a white car Move like a ghost on the skyline Take all your dreams And you throw them away Man in a white car Perhaps the connection here can be through Geoff Downes, Keyboard Player on 'Drama', Geoff and Rrussell Bell were in a pre Buggles group together. You may recall the buggles hit 'Video Killed The Radio Star'. Not long after 'Drama' the group 'Dramatis' arrived on the scene. erh YeYe;ldjkfl;sdkjfkljekjkejejklejkejkejkejkejkejkejekjekjekjekejkejkejkl;sdfjkl;asdfjdkl;asfnms dfkl;aj a djf hehe the the the jfjjjj dkfjkdjfkjdskljklfjasldkjfkldsjklsd;lkfjasdlkjfklsdajkfjksdjkfdjs J YouYo Yet another bit of Numan trivia to jostle your minds....... Sincerely, John Marques Carramao On Joy Circuit........... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 96 00:33:33 -0600 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: Matthew Holbrook Does It Again! To: "numan@cs.uwp.edu" As usual, Matthew Holbrook has managed to scoop just about everybody on a breaking story, this time one that's of a sad nature. I'm talking of course about his report of the passing of Ray Coleman, who (among other things) wrote the Gary Numan authorized biography. Matthew reported this on September 19th. On September 22nd, the story came across the Associated Press and Western Information Network newswires. This short version of the story was printed the following day (September 23rd) in the "Today" section of the Calgary Sun newspaper: ==================================================== BEATLES BIOGRAPHER DEAD AT 59 LONDON (AP) - Ray Coleman, former editor of the British pop music weekly Melody Maker and biographer of The Beatles and Eric Clapton, has died at age 59. Coleman, who reportedly had had a cancerous kidney removed, died September 10 at his home near London. He was assigned to cover the Beatles' U.S. tours. ==================================================== Displaying it's usual flair for good taste, the Sun ran this story immediately beneath another story from London, about a new condom, headlined: "FINALLY A FUMBLE-FREE CONDOM" /--------------------------------------------------------- / Joey Lindstrom numanoid@netway.ab.ca lindstrj@cadvision.com / http://www.netway.ab.ca/worldwidewebb/ / "There's a reason 'Wheel Of Fortune' is on right after 'Jeopardy'. Once / you've been forced to choke down the foul-tasting tequila shot of your / own abject ignorance, it's nice to be able to bite into the refreshing / lime wedge of other people's incredible fucking stupidity." / - Dennis Miller ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 96 10:29:08 -0600 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: Reviews of Two Covers To: "numan@cs.uwp.edu" I had some extra money burning a hole in my pocket about a month ago, so I decided to.... set fire to it. Sort of. In fact, I ordered a couple of Numan covers. I should point out that normally I'm quite charitable towards most Numan covers I've heard (which isn't a lot really). Actually, a better word might be "receptive". To me, the fact that a band is actually covering Numan is in and of itself a definite sign that the band in question knows quality when it sees it. :-) An example of an outstanding recent cover would of course be the Foo Fighters cover of "Down In The Park", on the X-Files CD "Songs In The Key Of X". I don't regard the Techno Army disc as a "covers" disc. I regard it more as an abomination. :-) (OK, so the two "Cars" remixes were pretty good...) Anyways, the two covers in question were received this week, and here's my completely biased opinion of both. First off, the "Cars" cover by the girl band "Shampoo", on the B-Side of their recent "Girl Power" CD single. Y'know something, this angry-young-girls-screaming-at-the-world routine gets pretty tiring after the second or third syllable. And that's the main problem with this entire CD - that and the fact that they REALLY should take some singing lessons. Does the phrase "off key" mean anything to you? The title track includes a lyric that pretty much says it all about this band: "I want to drive my neighbors mad!" And they did a good job on me: I refuse to play it anymore. :-) I really wonder, though, why they chose to cover "Cars". My theory is that they've got a thing for that particular musical era, as they also include a cover of "Top Of The Pops", which actually isn't too bad. But TOTP at least fits Shampoo's general style of music: Cars does NOT, not in the slightest, and boy oh boy does it show. They scream the words rather than sing them, and the backing music is tepid and uninspiring. I gotta tell ya: most Numan covers generally get a lot of play on my stereo before I finally tire of them. This one I've played three times, and I honestly doubt I'll play it again (other than to show how bad it is to friends). The second cover I bought is an older, but much more obscure, release. It's the B-Side of Thought Industry's 7" single "Gelatin", and the cover song is "Metal". This one gets a much, much better treatment... although with one big asterisk attached. It seems that this band's lead singer cannot, in fact, sing. Maybe he should team up with Shampoo? I dunno. He sorta croaks the lyrics. Despite this, his vocals do work well with Thought Industry's treatment of the music, which is simultaneously faithful to the original (including synth hooks) yet also brings something new and interesting to what was originally a rather stark song (not that this is a BAD thing). The thing I've liked about most of the Numan covers I've heard is that they often will breathe new life, and a fresh perspective, into an old song. I've listened to Gary's version of Metal so many times I could probably pick up a keyboard and play it... which is saying something, as I've never played before. Needless to say it doesn't have the same "lift" for me as it once did (it's one of my favourites from The Pleasure Principle). Listening to Thought Industry's version, though, has brought that "lift" back... I find that I'm now playing both of them regularly, and repeatedly. I really, really like 'em both. It's just a shame that this B-Side had to so-badly outshine the A-Side ("Gelatin"), which is quite abysmal. :-) Ordering info: Don't have a bunch of catalog numbers for ya. If you are still (gasp!) interested in the Shampoo CD, you should (in the UK) be able to find it in most trendy record shops. Outside the UK you may have to special order it (as I did), but it should be in most import catalogs. I ordered my copy from: German Music Express http://www.musicexpress.com telnet:musicexpress.com As for the Thought Industry single, this one has to be ordered directly from Metal Blade Records. I don't have the info available at the moment, but you can find it for yourself at the following web page: web fOr insects http://www.cs.wvu.edu/~deweyg/ti/gelatin7.html (If you're web-impaired, email me at numanoid@netway.ab.ca and I'll try to track down the info for ya... it's written down on the back of a candy wrapper somewhere under this mountain of paper on my desk!) /--------------------------------------------------------- / Joey Lindstrom numanoid@netway.ab.ca lindstrj@cadvision.com / http://www.netway.ab.ca/worldwidewebb/ / "There's a reason 'Wheel Of Fortune' is on right after 'Jeopardy'. Once / you've been forced to choke down the foul-tasting tequila shot of your / own abject ignorance, it's nice to be able to bite into the refreshing / lime wedge of other people's incredible fucking stupidity." / - Dennis Miller ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:10:16 -0700 From: David Pipe Subject: The Unborn To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) I was finally able to locate a copy of "The Unborn" at a local video store. The film itself is moderately good; I think the premise is interesting, but the acting at times is only so-so. Right from the opening credits, the music is easily identifiable as classic Numan. I recognized several arrangements, and a few (near the end of the film) are taken directly from "Outland". Credits both at the beginning and at the end of the film prominently identify the music as being written by Gary Numan. The end credits state the music was recorded at Outland Studios. One interesting twist: when the two main characters first visit the "evil doctor's" office, I thought the receptionist seemed somewhat familiar...I re-wound the tape, played it over, and I was amazed to see it was Lisa Kudrow ("Phoebe" from the sitcom "Friends")!! Weird... Overall, well worth renting...especially for Numan fans. - David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 17:33:56 +0800 From: benjp@earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au (Benjamin J. Peden) Subject: Warren Cann To: numan@cs.uwp.edu >: > >>P.S. Who the hell is Warren Cann? > >Warren Cann was (is?) the drummer for the very influential band Ultravox. >However, I am not aware of the connection between him and Gary Numan, other >than the admitted influence Ultravox had on Gary's music > >Just thought I'd let you know > Warren has been a guest musician on one of Gary's Tours (at the Hammersmith Odeon??) he also showed up at a 1989/1990? concert at Hammersmith. (He walked right past my girlfriend - she said "is that Warren?" and he replied Yes before walking out of the rather large crowd surrounding him into the backstage. -}--Ben---- ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************