Gary Numan Digest           Thu, 24 Jul 97       Volume  1 : Issue 349  

Today's Topics:
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                        E-Cards To Gary & Gemma
                           fan tape (2 msgs)
                      Gary Numan Digest V1 #348<>
                    Greetings from Sydney, Australia
                        license to a compilation
                                  MP3s
                          obscure experiences
                            Random Thoughts
                          Tolerance and peace
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 12:44:33 -0700
From: thirty5gramclub@webtv.net (Jef Encinas)
Subject: <none>
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

as requested, a bit of a profile............a long time fan of
electronic music--began collecting in 1980 and was a huge fan of Gary's
So much so that I (along with a pal) began the Friends of Numan fan
club---got Gary's records played on KROQ (in LA), Issued newsletters and
updates on single and album releases....it was all quite fun but I
gradually outgrew Gary's music as it began seeing changes that I could
not keep up with.  I stopped collecting around the Berserker period but
remain loyal to the earlier output. I have come to fall in love with
other forms of electronic music and have re-discovered the electric
guitar in my musical journeys.

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:38:11 -0700
From: "D.G" <dlgeer@innercite.com>
Subject: E-Cards To Gary & Gemma
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

    In response to Riana V.S.N's recent post ,concerning sending e-cards
to Gary and Gemma , congradulating them regarding thier impending
nuptials , I second the motion . However , I feel that it might work
better , if we send one document with the names and sentiments of
Numan-Digest members . We could do this this much the same way as was
done with the Digests birthday and Chritmas wishes for Gary . This way
we avoid inconvieniencing Gary & Co. with an artery clogging mail-bomb .

Fred Geer

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:53:15 -0500
From: paddygav@kcnet.com (Paddy)
Subject: fan tape
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan)

what? a Fan tape? I would love to join in on that! Although I am the only
kid in my combo who can tolerate Gary, I am sure I could get the boys to
whup something out (probably a Tubeway song), and if not I will do it
myself and put the band's name on it anyway!

Get on uP!
http://kcnet.com/~paddygav/images.html

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 21:48:17 -0500
From: paddygav@kcnet.com (Paddy)
Subject: fan tape
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

what? a Fan tape? I would love to join in on that! Although I am the only
kid in my combo who can tolerate Gary, I am sure I could get the boys to
whup something out (probably a Tubeway song), and if not I will do it
myself and put the band's name on it anyway!

Get on uP!
http://kcnet.com/~paddygav/images.html

Get on uP!
http://kcnet.com/~paddygav/images.html

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:58:39 +0000 (GMT)
From: Andy <amchaffie@meto.gov.uk>
Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #348<>
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

<Who
knows for all you know Gary might be gay.>

Oh dear! - I hope this doesnt start anything !!!

Andy x

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 03:17:59 -0700
From: David Pipe <dwpipe@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Greetings from Sydney, Australia
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

Hey Digesters...

I've been down under for two weeks doing the job-hunt thing (I've just
received a permanent resident visa for Aussie) and am flying back to San
Francisco tomorrow.  This morning I was getting ready for a day of grueling
interviews, and listening to "Triple-J" - the alternative national radio
station.  

I was psyched to hear "We Have a Technical" from the Random CD being played.
After the song, the female DJ came on and plugged the album, saying it was
"brilliant" and that everyone, Numan fan or not, should check it out.  Cool.

- David

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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:20:01 -0300
From: "Alexandre Twin" <lullaby@nvc.com.br>
Subject: license to a compilation
To: "numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu>

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Hello!!!

My name is Alexandre Borges from brazilian independent label "Cri Du Chat".
I would like to license the song "Cars"from Gary Numan to a compilation
called"Classic Club Hits"(1000 copies with 12 bands:Section 25,Quando
Quango,etc).
Send me a answer about royalts,etc...


Thank's in advance

Best Regards

Alexandre Borges


fax number:+551169483361
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 08:48:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Schumann <whizkid@dwave.net>
Subject: MP3s
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

I've made for myself a CD ROM with all 15 Numan studio albums (except The
Plan) compressed into MP3 format, but it's for my own use and no one will
be getting a copy from me.

MP3 sites are starting to get lots of attention from their illegal
activity and are disappearing fast.

Good luck with your Numan bot and your solitary track.

"He's even got a twin like me." -- They Might Be Giants, My Evil Twin
                 Chris Schumann <whizkid@dwave.net>

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:35:18 -0400
From: ralphm@mindspring.com
Subject: obscure experiences
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

Tamara Botzum wrote:


>I am not ragging on Gary, I love the man to pieces!!  I just like to
have

>some laughs!  Share you obscure experiences with the "uninitiated" of
the

>world!!!  I would love to hear what the rest of the world thinks (or
doesn't)

>of our hero!!!


What about "Now I remember him. What ever happened to him?" This is after
trying to explain who he is for about 10 minutes. Usually the 'remember
back to the skating rink?' gets them every time.


A friend of mine who grew up in the U.K. didn't even remember 'Cars'. I
even tried to 'da da da da, <underline>da</underline>
<underline>da</underline>' the song out to him. No use.


Also, for people that don't remember him or know anything more about him
than 'Cars', I can play something by Gary and I have yet to have someone
say "I don't like that!" Of course I try to play something I think
they'll like. You don't start the average non-fan out on 'Cry, The Clock
Said'.


My wife loves the 'Automatic' and 'Metal Rhythm' albums, but not the
'Sacrifice' album. She said most of the tracks sound the same to her.
They do, but not being a fan makes it too repetitive for her.


Tamara, I think this is great subject and hope you get a lot more
replies. The digest was a little weak last time. It is summer though,
must be a few folks on vacation.


Ralph Milam

ralphm@mindspring.com

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 08:38:38 -0600
From: Scott Lucado <Scott_Lucado@amrcorp.com>
Subject: Random Thoughts
To: numan@cs.uwp.edu

Okay, so I went online to CD-NOW and saw that Random was on sale for $13.50 or
whatever, and I thought what the heck, since I can't walk for a while longer I
won't be going to any music stores anyway, so I ordered it and a few days later
it arrived, and as my wife left for work I put it in the CD-ROM drive of my
computer and let it play while I was trading Instant Messages with some of my
teenage buddies on America On Line.

Given that context, my overall reaction to "Random" is this:  It reflects not so
much on Gary's talent as a songwriter as it does on the pathetic state of the
bands currently recording music.  I must be getting old, because with one or two
exceptions, the tracks on this CD do not seem in any way to offer anything that
makes me see an old Numan song in a new way.  

The worst offender must be The Orb, who should be rounded up and summarily shot
for that lame butchering masquerading as "Jo the Waiter."  I mean--is "ambient"
a polite word for "unimaginative and boring?"  If this is typical of what they
are recording these days, they should be shot anyway.  

It forces me to realize how truly sad it is that Gary isn't more popular; the
worse the current bands get, the better he sounds.  I never thought he was the
most talented recording artist on the planet, but the most common criticisms of
his work--repetitive, lacking in originality, self-indulgent--pale in comparison
to the weaknesses of the "performances" on this CD.

I for one can't wait for the next New Wave.  And thank god the CD was cheap.

Brief comments on other topics:  

1)  Leave religion out of this digest, please.  The world hasn't been able to
come to agreeable terms on religion in 10,000 years.  A bunch of Gary Numan
fans, brilliant though we may be, aren't going to solve this problem.

2)  A fan is a fan is a fan.  I myself wish that Gary would once again do
something half as creative and revolutionary as "The Pleasure Principle," but I
know that he won't, and it's okay.  He grinds out an occasional CD, and I buy
it, and that's good enough for me.

Scott
scott_lucado@amrcorp.com

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:15:13 -0800
From: Alyssa Jaraba <madhouse_@earthlink.net>
Subject: Tolerance and peace
To: Gary Numan <numan@cs.uwp.edu>

Hmmm...did I miss something? Apparently somebody out there sees some
sort of flaming of Gary's views on religion by those of us who profess a
faith in God, which I seem to have overlooked in my readings on the
digest. However, since I often catch my pastor cranking up the Beatles
Anthology in his office with no remorse, I can hardly assume that there
is anything wrong with liking music, no matter what the message. I find
Gary's lyrics to be honest, thoughtful, and haunting in regards to his
religious view, and find that they arouse in me some valid questions,
making me more interested in digging into my beliefs and seeing if I
really have reason to personally disagree with him on any point. 

As far as Gary's tolerance, I can only state that Gary himelf was kind
enough to tour my entire site (he even checked my HTML for me) and
personally emailed me mentioning that he had noticed that I was a
Christian from my personal page, and thanking me for my tolerance of his
views. Perhaps he has sadly had experience with Christians who feel that
the path to enlightenment must be shoved down everybody else's throats
without regard to the individual's personal right to believe whatever
they choose to believe. If so, I am glad that he has the open-mindedness
to recognize that most of us who hold to a faith view are not so
arrogant.

I have to just make a quick reply to JDavis: hmmmm...perhaps I'm going
on and on, but so be it. As for Gary being gay, I'm sure it would come
as a shock to his fiancee, Gemma. Also, since he has stated that he is
not gay but certainly doesn't seem like the sort who would back down
from claiming to be so if he actually were, I think we can trust his
word. And would it make me stop listening to him if he were? Doubt it. I
personally wouldn't care, since I don't find sexual orientation to be
some kind of measuring stick of a person's worth as a human or as a
performer. This may come as a shock, but most Christians regard the only
measure of a person's worth as a human to be the fact that they
are...human. Wow. So, rather than assuming that we are on a high horse,
perhaps you could show more tolerance of the expressions of those who
are open-minded enough to truly listen to an artist whose personal and
lyrical views are vastly different to their own, and perhaps even
understand the fact that such an act involves by it's nature a
questioning of both sides. Since you state that you agree with Gary's
views most of the time, perhaps you have not had the deep and growing
experience of exploring music and literature that disagrees with you.
Try it sometime. It may lead to a more enlightened view of what the
discussion has been about.

Peace, Cheers, and Laterz,
Lyssa
-- 
Tearin it up..I'm living on empty...
The Madhouse  http://home.earthlink.net/~madhouse_/  
Home of The Madhouse, Cry of the Celts, My Shadow In Vain, 
The Octopi Pit, and Selah's Cool Mac
CyberPunk Central  http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/6115  
Home of the CyberPunk Cafe

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