Gary Numan Digest Thu, 6 Nov 97 Volume 1 : Issue 379 Today's Topics: "The" Gary Numan web site A response to Mathew Roberts Black Numan Exile Found EXILE IN BELGIUM!!! Exile review (of sorts). Gary Numan for sale Glasgow review from Ali Neil's bird... New Release No Exile :( PARK WEST...1982 Puter Blues Recent tour Review in NME by Tommy Udo - 8 November 1997 sifting through the words... Standing and enjoying Tour Stuff US Cd Single VIDEO CLIP ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 97 04:25:08 -0700 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: "The" Gary Numan web site To: "numan@cs.uwp.edu" For those of you who've ordered your copies of "Exile" through Badlands, as per the offer made here on the Digest and on my own World Wide Webb site, your copies have likely already arrived by the time you read this, or will arrive very shortly. On arrival, you'll note a nice little flyer inside, acknowledging us cool Numan fans. What may raise some eyebrows, however, is an inference in the fourth paragraph that may seem to indicate that my Webb site is "the Gary Numan web site". Now, we all know that "NuWORLD" is "the Gary Numan web site". This was a minor communications foul-up for which I accept responsibility. I just want to note for the record that this was completely accidental: Joey doesn't have delusions of grandeur, and isn't actively promoting The World Wide Webb as "the Gary Numan web site", but rather as "a Gary Numan web site". This is the sort of thing that can create bad feelings and might cause some consternation at Eagle Records if they saw something like this ("Hey, what's Gary doing endorsing a retail outlet?") - so, to repeat, it was an accident, and Jason's repaired the error on future flyers. :-) Hope y'all are enjoying "Exile" as much as I am.... /-------------------------------------------------------------------------- / From: The Desk Of Joey Lindstrom +1 403-606-3853 / EMAIL: joey@lindstrom.com numanoid@ab.imag.net lindstrj@cadvision.com / WEBB: http://www.ab.imag.net/worldwidewebb/ /-------------------------------------------------------------------------- / I was in a job interview and I opened a book and started reading. Then / I said to the guy, "Let me ask you a question. If you are in a / spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the / headlights, does anything happen?" He said, "I don't know." I said, "I / don't want your job." / --Steven Wright /-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:39:46 -0600 From: mark a hubbard Subject: A response to Mathew Roberts To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I usually never get all that concerned about what others say, until it becomes a Generalization that then includes me, and thus I am then on the defensive. I will clip in bits that he wrote, and then my response to them. "1. No matter how hard it is to get Numan albums in the UK, it's going to = be harder being a Numan fan in the US (at least at the moment)." This much may be true, as he said, at the moment. Although, if you are truely a fan, and extend the effort necesary to get what you want, then you will not let a lil body of water stop you. "2. I could never live in any country where a certain State insists that school biology text books have warning labels about the theory (or rather the accepted fact) of evolution because some three thousand year old story said that man was created by God." I surely do not hold the answers to lifes great mysteries, but it seams quite odd that an entire country can be held accountable for one areas ideas. The fact is, that here in the states, evolution is THE ONLY ANSWER GIVEN at this time in schools. Unless one attends a private school, religion has basically been removed from schools totally. When I was a child, we started each day with a moment of prayer, and that is now against law in public schools. There is not even allowed a "Time of silence" so to speak. "3. The standard of mathematics is much better in the UK." I have no oppinion on this, but would not be surprised. I do agree our school system is lacking in some areas. "4. Americans have no sense of irony." Again, a blanket statement. I would assume then that you have spoken to ALL Americans to have made this assumption, or do you really mean, "those that I have met are this way"? "There was a guy in front of me (about 6 feet from the front) who had his arms crossed and didn't move all night! It wasn't that he wasn't a fan, cos he clapped as loud as anyone. So what's his problem??? For God's sake, if you don't want to REALLY enjoy yourself, piss off to the back. Anyway, 5 or 6 of us DID have a good time." So now you know how others "FEEL". WOW, you should become a telephone pshycic hotline helper. There could be ANY number of things going on in that guys life. Illness, physical impairments, who the heck knows, but to assume that since you MOVE more, you should have a better standing/view is rediculess. I hope no one sees this as an attach on this gentleman, rather a point of direction. Do not assume you know everything about everyone, especially if you have never met them, or talked to them. I have been a Numan fan for nearly 20 years, and wish him/his fans well. BY THE WAY!?!?!? How is Exile doing on the UK charts at this time? Anything yet? Take care, Mark A Hubbard jazztrancer@iquest.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:35:44 +0000 From: iwisman@QNET.COM Subject: Black Numan To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi All: Just got it Monday and WOW!!!!!! The most powerful and blackest NUMAN yet. Nietzsche would be proud. Gary has gone into the realm of the philosophers, and rips apart what some would call sacred (not me). I don't know which track is best. It's almost a musical book. Somewhat in the tradition of Telekon. The Angel Wars is playing almost like a confession of Gary's? or what humanity should accept? beliefs. The remix of Absolution is pretty good more deep. Now EXILED Rudy "I'll Drift into Darkness And tear out the soul of God." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 20:32:32 -0600 From: Brad LaVoise Subject: Exile Found To: GARY NUMAN DIGEST Well Exile finally came in as an import at Now Hear This in Crestwood, MO. Even though it was $27.99, I still picked it up. And it is well worth the cost. Am into the 2nd listening right now. Probably do a 3rd before the night is over. This store also had the following Numan CD's. The most I have ever seen in one spot. All were priced at or near $19.99 Isolate, Outland, Machine + Soul, The Skin Mechanic, Dream Corrosion, Sacrifice, Absolution, Here I Am and one more, can't remember which one. To Damon the Blockbuster Music store on Ladue near I-170 had Ghost in the import section. Brad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:32:51 +0100 From: DE VISSCHER Luc Subject: EXILE IN BELGIUM!!! To: "'numan@cs.uwp.edu'" Dear my friends, Since last Tuesday, October 28, Exile has arrived in Brussels. I went to a shop in Brussels who at 1pm had about 6-10 copies, and by the time I got there at 6pm, only one (1) copy was there. The guy behind the counter couldn't believe it. He thought nobody was waiting for a new GN album. He even confessed to me he actually "liked it". (as if it was a confession to court...I'm sorry Your Honor, but I actually *like* Exile. Can you imagine?). So what are the comments from my side. Well, I have to admit I'm surprised to read so many good things about Exile. As a fan since '79, this is as much shocking as pleasing. At the first hearings of the CD, I thought that all the good and perfect reviews of the fans were exaggerated, and I was disappointed. It seemed to me that all the songs are, though they sound good, based around the same drum loop and are very similar. Someone mentioned Sacrifice part 2 and that was a good description for me (though the "sound" of Exile" is better). I took a friend in my car with the CD, and she thought she was listening to the same song all the way... But... That was before the week-end. I bought "Exile" twice, once for in the car, once for home. And this week-end, somehow I just couldn't listen to anything else. So I started to hear the variances, listen to the lyrics, and I really grew into it. Yes, the best description for Exile is "AWESOME". And now, the only thing that I don't like about Exile is that it is too short (only 9 tracks of which we already knew Absolution and only 42 minutes...). Anyway, I am now looking forward to the concert in Shepherd's Bush on November 9 in London. So if you are going to that concert, and you see a guy with a black "BRIDGESTONE" Jacket, come and say Hi. It's probably me! See you there, or on the digest, Greetings, Luc De Visscher, Belgium ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 18:20:47 GMT From: swooldri@lucent.com Subject: Exile review (of sorts). To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) Got my copy of Exile yesterday from a new record shop who said that BMG were having problem with their distributors, and so I had to wait 20 minutes for my copy to arrive. I`ll say one thing about the Eagle Records lark, it`s certainly pushed the prices up. My copy set me back 14.99. Now that Gary`s with a mainstream company, does that mean we won`t be getting any more extended albums? Anyway, the design is pretty good. The logo may well be a cross between a Vorlon and Shadow ship but it`s pretty effective nonetheless. I thought Sacrifice was good, but this is even better. My only gripe was that on my first listen there was no standout track to grab my attention like Question Of Faith or Love & Napalm. Of course, that changed when I listened again through headphones (my ultimate test for an album). My fav tracks at the moment are Dominion Day, Dark and The Angel Wars - how many people have said that so far? I notice the sound is based around the Sacrifice sound, but clearer and with more depth, and with a bit more variation. At least the drum tracks are more varied, but I still think he could do better with `live` drums on it (only a minor gripe though). I don`t think there`s a duff track on here. I`d never heard Absolution before, so I didn`t have any pre-conceptions about it. I think it`s a pretty good track, but not as good as You Walk In My Soul. I`m not sure how the `general public` will take to this, and I`d like to see a high profile ad campaign to make more people aware of it. In this respect maybe the Gravity Kills remix will help, Dominion Day is an excellent track but it`s not exactly radio-friendly which is what we need if this is going be a new launchpad. As I haven`t heard anything by GK, I may b may be talking absolute crap but I hope not. My current play-it-to-death album is Salvation by Alphaville, and this could well replace it. ttfn, Si ******************************************* * Si Wooldridge * * Senior Systems Equipment Engineer * * Lucent Technologies Network Systems UK * * * * e-mail : swooldri@lucent.com * ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:40:33 EST From: Styxwicki Subject: Gary Numan for sale To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello- Just a quick message from Dumpo Music: We have recently added 100s of records and CDs to our original inventory of collectible merchandise from the 1980s! I am extending this invitation to you to visit our web-site and examine our selection of Gary Numan items for yourself: http://members.aol.com/dumpo712cd Who knows, maybe here you will be able to find that rare single that has been eluding you for all these years... We look forward to hearing from you! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:01:42 -0000 From: Alistair Neil Subject: Glasgow review from Ali Neil's bird... To: numan@cs.uwp.edu ...and someone please send me a nasty email if I start sounding British. No really, please. Well.....this is one American whose lifelong concert ambitions have been achieved! It all seems a bit unreal now, even though the show was only two days ago. I thought the opening band was great (although everyone else was suitably unimpressed ), a cross between Presidents of the USA, Julianna Hatfield, L7 (if they were all boys), The Clash, and Hole. Kinda makes you go 'hmmmmm', but I liked them quite a bit. Whatever they're called. The Pavilion is a very intimate little theater, seating maybe 1500 - 2000 screaming Numan fans (save the couple right in front of me who stood, but did not dance or scream nor even applaud during the entire show). Seated show my ass! The only people sitting were those in the first balcony (unlucky). Anyhoo, the lights dimmed and the crowd roared, and then the man himself strode out. What can I say that hasn't already been said? He looked like sex in cool boots? He crooned like a dove and sang like a wolf? He can wear tight black pants any day and have women (and men) swooning at his feet? The light show was absolutely fantastic (and not seizure inducing ), the band rocked and rolled and synthed it's way through the evening in near perfect harmony........................until the encore, when the instruments went kablooey, Gary forgot the lyrics to Jo the Waiter , and the keyboardist didn't know enough songs to do anything more than what they had already sung....I recommend that you bring cotton wool or earplugs especially if you're 4 seats away from the speakers......*gloat*....cause dat shit is loud! The songs were a brilliant mix of old and new - i'm definitely listening to Exile more often, and am making a light snack of words from my previous post. Kudos to the chick who let me borrow her black nail polish in Lauders , and apologies to William for not meeting you in the same. Well....til next year! :-D Clea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:51:28 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: New Release To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Well as I was reading through my latest copy of DJ Magazine here in the UK, I noticed that in the new releases portion of the Techno section was a Gary Numan record!! Even the reviewer commented that it was a thrill to see the name Gary Numan in the Techno section (finally getting respect for introduction of technology into music and it's development into the modern Techno sound), the release is to be 'Metal' with 'Dans Le Parc' on the b-side. This will be released on Random on 12 inch red vinyl, with remixes from that Techno ace Robert Armani and I think Thomas Bangalter (of Daft Punk fame). I went into my local music store to get the Exile release yesterday, but to my amazement they had sold out. I had previously gone in the week before but had forgotten my wallet,............damn fool!! I now have my tickets for the Numan shows this weekend. On Friday 7 I will be seing him in my home town of Milton Keynes, and on Sunday 9 I will be seing him at Shepherds Bush Empire in London with some guys I will be meeting for the first time from the Kraftwerk list, and also possibly Luc a fellow Numanoid and Digester from just across the water in Belgium,.....good day to you Luc! I am sure as well as the one I will post, that there will be numerous Numan reviews of his tour in the UK to follow on this Digest, so watch this space. Miss Marlene,......yes I certainly do! T-shirt to cum soon my friend! See ya, Craig. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 21:34:05 +1100 From: random Subject: No Exile :( To: "numan@cs.uwp.edu" Hiya Still no go for Exile in Australia :( The import places still have it on their lists for future releases, but BMG in Australia say they haven't heard anything about it! Ditto for 'Praying to the Aliens' :( Oh well, maybe one day... It was good to see that there were 14 Australians on the mailing list. Welcome my fellow Oz-Numanoids! :))) I don't feel so lonely anymore :) Cheers Random Access 'We have a Random on the west side, personality malfunction...' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 02:04:32 -0600 From: "Harper, David" Subject: PARK WEST...1982 To: "'numan@cs.uwp.edu'" It was a cold and blustery autumn night in Chicago. The year was 1982. The venue was the plush and stylish PARK WEST club. It was to be a night never to be forgotton. The tour was I' ASSASIN. Gary Numan took the stage and yours truly was about 3 feet away on the front row. A wall of ANALOG synths lined the stage. MIDI and the digital "box of samples" workstations were not yet the order of the day. The synth sound still RIPPED and KNIFED through the mix...the PROPHET 5's, the MINIMOOG's, the POLYMOOG's, the ARP ODYSSEY's and PRO-SOLOIST's...needless to say the punch was incredible. Then came the M-1. This keyboard changed everything about the Numan sound. Oh yeah...the concert was fantastic of course. I miss that thick, heavy analog synth sound that Numan once had. I miss that phat punch. Maybe Gary will soon bring a NORD LEAD or a JP-8000 into the mix. Maybe even the brand new Z-1. Bring it on Gary...you are the MAN !!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:01:51 -0800 From: craig Subject: Puter Blues To: Penny Long , "numan@cs.uwp.edu" Hi Penny. First re the address book in eudora. To make sure you don't lose the addresses, print the message. To add the address to the address book 1.go to the in box 2.click on the message from the address you want to add 3.Ctrl K will bring up the add address screen, edit the name so you know who the message is from if needed 4. Enter When you click the little book icon the name will be added. Click on the name to view the address. To send mail to an address, highlite the name and click on to. As far as your tab button not working...I don't know, could be your keyboard. Good luck Craig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:57:10 +0000 From: "paul.mcgahan" Subject: Recent tour To: numan@cs.uwp.edu paul.mcgahan wrote: > > I had the great pleasure of seeing Gary performe in Bristol last Monday > night. > The lighting rigg was outstanding and ofcourse Gary was in full swing. > the only thing that in my oppinion let him down was the person who was > mixing his sound. There was feedback, at times we couldnt even hear Gary > over the instruments,and this let him down. > Eventhough this happened, we are still going to see him on the last > night in London. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:29:22 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie <"Andy McHaffie amchaffie"@meto.gov.uk> Subject: Review in NME by Tommy Udo - 8 November 1997 To: Numan Digest <"Numan Digest numan"@cs.uwp.edu> GARY NUMAN LONDON SHEPHERDS BUSH EMPIRE That old black shirt, the mere threat of a smile on his wan face, hair black as Ronald Reagan's heart, Gary Numan certainly gives the people what they want: specifically, 'Are friends Electric?', and - as a special treat - a surprise duet with Republica's Saffron to prove that even today's youngsters recognise that he's a dead im portant pop figure. Great, eh ? Still everyone is having jolly good fun, so why piss on poor old Gary's chips ? He wrote 2 minor classics, 'Cars' and 'Down in the park', as well as 'Are friends electric?', and, er, thats it. Realistically, he refined 'Heroes'-era Bowie with liberal borrowings from John Foxx era Ultravox into a stodgy pomp-pop. There are those who try to convince us that he was the godfather of electronica and that today's bright young things are just bursting to remix, cover, or otherwise pay their repects to the music of Numan. The crowd tonight, however, proves what bullshit this is: they are mostly Numanoids who saw all this the first time round, probably in a much bigger venue with a show that was more than just Gary and some rock blokes churning through a set whose development was arrested as some point after The Human League made all that "I am a robot" stuff seem very silly indeed. Still, they got what they came for and Numan got what he wanted: the uncritical adulation of the same old hardcore devotees. Nice, but it would be dishonest to pretend that he's some kind of figurehead for the electronica generation. Those are expectations that take the piss out of Numan as well as the rest of us. Tommy Udo, NME, 8 November 1997 -- *********************************** * * Due to my email fouling up, * you cant directly reply to this * message. * * To reply, please enter my email * address manually. Thanks * * amchaffie@meto.gov.uk * *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:23:10 -0500 (EST) From: SomaCrow@aol.com Subject: sifting through the words... To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hallo space oddities It's hot outside, and The Man's peeling off of my walls. Bother. The valiant Cyberspace Buddha commented, "Ok, so my blood is not exactly young, but what about us whose only cars are the numerous versions of our heros song on CD?" Well, what about those of us who *are* young and are due to inherit an old Plymouth Laser? :-) In other words, you want new blood, you got it, but I need a ride to England please, as I haven't enough for bus fare. :-) (Gotta get my ass in gear and learn to drive soon!! Damn and blast the new driving laws, it's like England or something...) >From the same, "So, anyone here " Oh, you're no fun anymore... "want to see: 'The Gaza Strip'?" Sure, why not? Will he charge admission? Where will his lady be? Presumably on the floor cold and stiff so we can get to Gaz (with his god-given ass) literally over her dead body! ;-) Brad, you know how much I'm trying to hate you for going to England without abducting me and bringing me alone, but hell, I just can't do it... :-) Matthew (or Andy, or whatever...) said, "Interesting advert for Exile in the tour programme...'What if heaven and hell are one and the same place and it is only our perception that makes it seem like one or the other?'." Seems a bit verbose, maybe it's just me... but he's right, you know. I'm sure there are those who wouldn't mind having a cage full of rats lowered over their heads. :-) "Ummm, reminiscent of the matter/energy issue in Physics, I'm sure you'll all agree." Uh oh, am I in for something even less pleasant than non-conservation of energy?? And I am so enjoying Physics... collisions and all that. Coming soon to Scary Numan: The Numan o'lantern. :-) Love and napalm and The Power of El Nino, Riana "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 97 05:49:25 -0500 From: Shane King Subject: Standing and enjoying To: "Gary Numan" > There was a guy in front of me (about 6 feet from the front) who had his > arms crossed and didn't move all night! It wasn't that he wasn't a fan, > cos he clapped as loud as anyone. So what's his problem??? For God's > sake, if you don't want to REALLY enjoy yourself, piss off to the back. This was probably me, I tend to stand and enjoy my concerts. I was having a great time, I just don't jump around at concerts. As far as going to the back, I don't think so, I came from the US to the Numan. And for the record, I don't sing along with the songs either, I paid to hear Gary sing them, not the fans. Shane Hi Andy! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:53:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Philip Lindsay Subject: Tour Stuff To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Well, I'm sure you all won't want to know about the Glasgow, Southport and Manchester gigs, but I'm going to tell you anyway - I have to tell someone! Everyone I know goes 'yeah right, Phil.', and falls asleep. I remembered that someone in the digest mentioned Gary was signing 'Praying to the Aliens' at lunchtime in Glasgow city centre. I sent my sister along for me (since I live in Preston) and she got me a signed copy. He didn't actually turn up, but they couriered a bunch of them over to the Pavillion Theatre for him to sign and we picked it up the next day. The book seems quite cool, and I've learnt a lot I didn't know from what I've read so far. Gary writes well, and Steve Malins appears to have just overseen the work. Anyhow, the gig. Me and ma wee sis arrived with about 30 seconds to go, so we missed the support. (Bis?), and the atmosphere was great. Great new intros to most of the older songs to keep us guessing, and somehow adding the 'Exile' feel to them as well. Crashing (and really, beautifully clear, especially the snare, which felt like being kicked in the head on occasion) drums, and harsh guitar. Noise Noise, Everyday I die, and Metal. Wow. Metal. Wow. Pretty much speechless. But not as speechless as the new version of Friends, which is abso-f**king-lutely brilliant, if you'll pardon my french. In fact, it's almost a new song, and the weakest part of it is the old lyrics bit, which seemed a bit forced. Synths, three guitars, and a techno grind in the background which came to the fore in the quiet stops. Brill. However, it grew on me over the three days. It's also great to hear a 'Metal Rhythm' song again. (I'm a big fan of Metal Rhythm). Everything about it was so clear, shimmering almost. So, basically a great gig, and the best bit was at the end. When the band came back on for the encore, Ade Orange's keyboard went pop (just like last year, if you remember), and after much fiddling, Gary came forward and said "Sorry, this building must have a curse on it!". Since they were on stage, they played Joe the Waiter. Now we all know that Gary doesn't know the words to this one, but I wasn't prepared for quite how bad it was! It was cool, though. The whole audience sang it at him, as he struggled with the later verses. After that, he said "Look we really can't play any more songs, but we can play one that we've done already"..."I was going to choose one, but you can do it." ... "You can have 'AFE' or .." - at this point I shouted "Metal!!" at the top of my voice (I like to think that I affected the gig in some little way . ..... not!) "...Metal.". Mad screaming. We got Metal again, and then home to bed (or a night out in Glasgow). It was a great gig, probably better because of the technical hitches. Short, though. Saturday, Southport, bad venue, not really a great crowd, Ade's keyboard played up again in the same place. You could see Gary was pissed off. At Glasgow it was a bit better humoured. Good music though. The encore was Prophecy, and a slow, slow version of Bleed. In fact most of the old stuff was played slightly slower. When you combine it with the hard guitars they come out rejuvenated. The support band where 'Playhouse' - OK, no stage presence, except for the drummer, songs pretty OK, but samey after a while. Sunday in the Manchester Apollo was a great gig. The music was great, and the keyboards stayed together. He finished on Joe the Waiter, and you could see him looking down in between verses to where the words were taped on the ground. The stage is much bigger here, and the set came into it's own. The light show this year is one of the best for a while, I think. Bis played support in Manchester, and I thought they were great. Almost Devo-like in their vocals, always tuneful, worked hard, and got heckled for their troubles. Pity. I might even go out of my way to go and see them again. The thing I love about going to see Gary Numan in concert is that he doesn't have to do anything. He can come on and stand there and the audience will cheer. The man is an honest-to-god (perhaps the wrong word) star. The set as I remember it was as follows (not in this order, except for the first few) : Down in the Park Dominion Day Friends Films A Question of Faith Films Noise Noise Everyday I die Prophecy Dark An Alien Cure Cars AFE? Voix Bleed A Seed of a Lie Absolution (booo!) Joe the Waiter Metal (Yeayyy!) Dead Heaven Going to Nottingham on Wednesday, (should be a really lively gig, was last year) and London on Sunday. I can't wait, I've never been to the last night of a tour before. Second last of the Outland tour, but not quite! Sorry to bore you all Phil x. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 20:57:42 +0000 From: Kevin Goodchild Subject: US Cd Single To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi again, Just to clarify (cyberspace) the Cd single released in the USA, It Was by a company called Sirus the comic people who will be releasing Sacrifice in the US under the name of DAWN, I believe they have released or are going to release a cd single which has three tracks from Sacrifice on it , if anyone can help me track it down or has further information then get in touch with me at kevin.goodchild@virgin.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:54:21 -0000 From: Markus Dietrich Subject: VIDEO CLIP To: "'numan@cs.uwp.edu'" Hello to everyone, Please cry it in the world ... No, but everyone (near to Gary) should convince Gary to use a PROFESSIONAL ARTIST or ART DIRECTOR for the production of the VIDEO CLIP for the forthcoming januar single !!! Don't matter what it costs, because a good VIDEO CLIP will bring back more money as invested !!! For a single from EXILE there could be soooo great FANTASY MYSTICAL DARK backgrounds with much FOG :-) And in my opinion Gary must not(!!!) always displayed within the clip! That is because the people shall first wonder from which planet that CLIP must come, and maybe at the end of it, Gary appears shortly!!! Please don't think that I will critizise Gary - No - But I for myself think it would be better in that way. Bye, Markus from Nuremberg/Germany ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************