Gary Numan Digest Sun, 4 Jan 98 Volume 1 : Issue 396 Today's Topics: blue eyes.mp3 Down In the park .mid... Gary Numan Digest V1 #395 Happy Nu-year! Numan getting major play on Indianapolis Radio! s.payton reviews exile (2 msgs) SACRIFICE The supposed Eagle re-releases The Year in Review Where to get Exile and Praying to the Aliens ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 20:28:53 PST From: "Jenny Beck" Subject: To: numan@cs.uwp.edu HEY! I was just listening to the recent release"GAry Numan and tubeway ARmy premiere hits" and i was looking at the cd cover and I remebered when last year i was watching the week in rock on MTV and they showed new relaeses for the month and ...they showed this album for like 5 secoonds and played a little bit of cars in the background! COOL HU!! The more I see of Numan anywhere the more happier I am. Millions of people in the world have no idea of what they're missing,, we are the lucky ones!!!! *love and NAplam* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 22:09:27 +0100 From: "joeri" Subject: blue eyes.mp3 To: "Gary Numan" Added Boys.mp3 to "prophecy" and removed "motherless faces". http://home.planetinternet.be/~joeri/prophecy.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 03:55:06 -0600 From: "Justin M. Forbes" Subject: Down In the park .mid... To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD1732.366C1AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone seen or does anyone have a Midi file of Down in the Park? if = so, please send to iostream1@ibm.net ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD1732.366C1AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD1732.366C1AE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 14:49:38 +0300 From: "Peter Enright" Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #395 To: "Gary Numan" I must say I agree with Bob Payton's critical comments (Digest #395) of the Exile album. Although I really enjoy listening to it, I get the distinct feeling that every track sounds too similar to the others and that a heavier re-mix would add that missing element. An extra dimension is often added when someone other than the performer does the production/mixing. One gets a sense of an ominous wall of sound but very little seems to rise out of it piercing your skull like a white-hot needle between the eyes ... Also some of the intros are a little too tricky and tedious, but I guess it's all part of the "concept" ...? When I heard some of these performed live during Numan's last London gig, they had tons more balls - but then they usually do live ... And to Jim "The Machman" Napier, I'm sure there are many Numanoids who are also secret John Foxx / Ultravox fans. I know I am - Foxx in particular is the closest entity to Numan yet he still manages to resonate on a distinctly different wavelength. Whatever happened to him? Did he beam out or something? Pete Enright Moscow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:54:40 EST From: Hopey77 Subject: Happy Nu-year! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi all! Happy Nu-Year!=0ALast night at a crowded and smoky loft party for= New Year's I was watching a=0Aband warm up their instruments (friends of= mine) and they used "Cars" as a=0Atuner. I know they did that for me, th= ose bums! And they're opening for the=0ADamned next month and now they th= ink they're gods=85=0AI ordered my copy of "Praying to the Aliens" from t= he UK and have not received=0Ait yet - I assume it's due to the timing of= the season. But now it's over 2=0Aweeks and I'm dying to get my hands on= it. Has anyone had a similar witing=0Aperiod? =0AI'm waiting to get Exil= e on CD when it is released through Cleopatra here next=0Amonth. That lab= el ain't so bad - they do some great old releases that normally=0Awould h= ave disappeared. =0AIf Numan doesn't get over here this year, my 1998 res= olution is to fly over=0Athere to see him. Now THAT'S dedication! I'm scr= imping already.=0AHope everyone had a safe holiday season. =0AHopey77=0A ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 00:51:00 -0600 From: mark a hubbard Subject: Numan getting major play on Indianapolis Radio! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Well, the title makes it sound better than it may really be. A Radio Station called WRZX in Indianapolis Indiana is one of the largest listended to stations in the state at the moment! They recently had a deal where you could go to their web site at http://www.wrzx.com and place your request for the greatest "alternative" song of all time, then the station began on Thursday the 1st, to play the top 103(also the stations frequency "X-103" is their slogan)in decending order, over and over until this coming Sunday night. So Cars of course made it in, and will be played about 4 or 5 times a day from Thurs the 1st until this Coming Sunday the 4th!! Well, I wrote the station programer to inform him of the Exile LP, and the anticipated release this year here in the states, so maybe he will mention it. Who knows... Well, That's all I have this week. Take care all!! Mark A Hubbard "Id rather be insane than stupid, but I'd rather be neither than both." -AARON CANTOR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 12:28:08 +0000 From: "b. koski" Subject: s.payton reviews exile To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Happy New Year everyone! S. Payton (angst81@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > what if this album was produced by trent reznor? i know im biased being > a nin fan, but i think exile would have been a great album for gary to > get on nothing records. i know the other teenager on this mailing list > agrees. i can just see it : "pop star corrupted by nine inch nail > frontman trent reznor". gary, (if you read this) fuck cleopatra and > gravity kills, you want, no you need nothing and nin. i really believe > this would give you the album that really is better than "telekon" and > would give you some success in the US (finally). america is ripe . . . I must say, even though I haven't heard "Exile" yet, from reading the lyrics and hearing other peoples reviews to a point I --ALMOST-- totally agree that Gary should've tried to go with Trent/NIN/nothing. However, I dunno if I'd really wanna see Gary have to put up with Trent for too long.. I mean, Trent (and pretty much everyone on the label) would give "Exile" a positive push, but like many other nothing artists have seen (Pig and Pop Will Eat Itself come to mind), after that first push Trent just pretty much says "Hey, you're on your own.." I'm assuming Gary could survive that, but I just have that feeling that he'd go the same way Pig and PWEI went -- he'd release one good record on nothing then go to some small indie label that few have heard of or just lose his American label altogether, which would really suck... So, if Trent gave the same amount of attention to all artists all the time as he does to Marilyn Manson, I'd say I agree 100%. But since he seems to just suck any of his influences in, baby them so they don't leave the label, then leave them in the cold I have to say signing to nothing wouldn't have been all that great for Gary in the long run. b. koski -- http://www.izzy.net/~bkoski -- aim/aol: bkoski7 icq: 3332492 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 12:28:08 +0000 From: "b. koski" Subject: s.payton reviews exile To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Happy New Year everyone! S. Payton (angst81@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > what if this album was produced by trent reznor? i know im biased being > a nin fan, but i think exile would have been a great album for gary to > get on nothing records. i know the other teenager on this mailing list > agrees. i can just see it : "pop star corrupted by nine inch nail > frontman trent reznor". gary, (if you read this) fuck cleopatra and > gravity kills, you want, no you need nothing and nin. i really believe > this would give you the album that really is better than "telekon" and > would give you some success in the US (finally). america is ripe . . . I must say, even though I haven't heard "Exile" yet, from reading the lyrics and hearing other peoples reviews to a point I --ALMOST-- totally agree that Gary should've tried to go with Trent/NIN/nothing. However, I dunno if I'd really wanna see Gary have to put up with Trent for too long.. I mean, Trent (and pretty much everyone on the label) would give "Exile" a positive push, but like many other nothing artists have seen (Pig and Pop Will Eat Itself come to mind), after that first push Trent just pretty much says "Hey, you're on your own.." I'm assuming Gary could survive that, but I just have that feeling that he'd go the same way Pig and PWEI went -- he'd release one good record on nothing then go to some small indie label that few have heard of or just lose his American label altogether, which would really suck... So, if Trent gave the same amount of attention to all artists all the time as he does to Marilyn Manson, I'd say I agree 100%. But since he seems to just suck any of his influences in, baby them so they don't leave the label, then leave them in the cold I have to say signing to nothing wouldn't have been all that great for Gary in the long run. b. koski -- http://www.izzy.net/~bkoski -- aim/aol: bkoski7 icq: 3332492 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 06:51:39 -0800 From: Michael Grulbs Subject: SACRIFICE To: Gary Numan Well, like I said, I was gonna do, I went and bought SACRIFICE. I just know you guy's would like a virgin (meaning I havn't heard it yet} opinoin on his SACRIFISE. 13 buck's! As blockbuster's is haveing a 50 off sale on there import's! I've only managed to get through to the 3rd song. Wich is my fave least to say, fo far that is. Im sure the rest are just as good. But after running through the first 2 song's non stop, Im gonna pause, and prepare myself for each and every song. The reason Ive only gotton through to the 3rd song is I only got it yesterday, and I crashed when I got home, woke up this morning, gave it a liten, got on the puter and, got the DIGEST in the mail! O MY! Im sorry Gary for all the thing's I thought about you during your IRS times. His song's are finly getting back to "COMPLEX"! (dificult) BEAUTIFULL!! DJSW1@SWBELL.NET DALLAS,TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 09:05 -0700 (MST) From: "Stephen.Austra-beck" Subject: The supposed Eagle re-releases To: numan digest Does anyone have any clearer idea of when our friends at Eagle will be re-releasing the NUMA catalogue in any format? Information was outlined in the previous month by David Datta if I'm not mistaken, but I was curious if there've been any changes? //////// Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:58:34 -0800 (PST) From: Derek Langsford Subject: The Year in Review To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Another year has passed, and as I did last year, I think a summary of the year is a good thing to think about before we look ahead to the next. Now, last year I was a tad critical of the failure of Numa to capitalize on the Premier Hits release. I feared that Gary had basically failed to catch the bandwagon. However, the bus has sputtered along and Gary is hangin on by his fingernails wondering if the bus is about to come to a grinding halt. 1997 started off with no new album, and memories of a tour that rather than promoting Gary's newest material, was used to market Beggars latest trip down memory lane with Gary's pre-1984 material. While Gary does not like dwelling on the past, he has been repeatedly forced to promote his older material on tours, TV appearances. etc. This association of Gary with only his 1979-83 heyday must have been a factor in his difficulty to land a new record deal which seemed interminably illusive. Beggars Banquet pulled together a compilation of covers of Gary's songs by big and no-name artists which proved to be a very respectable double CD, certainly a notch above some of the "tribute " albums that come out of the woodwork each year. Random earned decent reviews and showed that Gary had the respect of a lot of artists, perhaps waking up the press a smidgen to the fact that Gary has had enormous influence on today's artists. He was even talked of as the father of Electronica. Gary was on then off again with his first acting role - a nasty piece of work, in the the film Kinsman. Sadly, conflicts have arisen with the 1998 filming schedule and Gary has had to pull out of the project. While Gary waited for news he spent time reworking Exile getting it remastered, and readying it for release on Numa. A trip to the USA gave rise to optimism but contacts seemed to fizzle. The concentration on Exile left any thoughts of further Babylon volumes, the often promised Ballad Album, and fans frustrations with no new material, sadly in the gutter. With a tour lined up in the Autumn, Gary was forced to start the production process for Exile to be a Numa release. NUMACD 1014 was listed virtually everywhere as an upcoming release in the UK and by international distributors. Then, out of the blue, a miracle happened. Gary signed to a new label, which we later found out was started by the people behind Castle Communications UK after the company was sold to a US concern. Along with the backing of BMG (the world largest music company) it appeared that the Eagle had landed with Gary firmly planted between its shoulders. Production of Exile was shifted to the new label and release occurred on schedule October 20 just before the Exile Tour kicked off. Exile has been one of the most anticipated albums by Gary. After 1994's tour de force with Sacrifice, expectations were high. The dark, anti- religious themes met with a spectrum of response from fans but most liked it, some thought it was his best ever. The media were perhaps a little more generous than usual. Unfortunately, the last minute label switch confused stores in the UK and elsewhere and distribution was patchy, resulting in the album peaking in it's first week of release in the high 40s of the UK album chart. Promotion seemed non-existant and we were left to wonder if Eagle were any improvement over Numa. However, things seem to be happening. For the first time in over 15 years, Gary may be doing a world tour. Exile gets a US release on Cleopatra in February. Rumours are that Eagle will be pushing the new single and the album in the new year. A boxed set is even on the cards for UK release making the b-sides available on CD to the public for the first time. We all wait to see how 1998 unfolds. 1997 was one of transition. 1998 may well be make or break year for Gary as a reliable artist for a label. Let's hope that Eagle do well by him, and that our enthusiasm for Gary's music rubs off onto a few hundred thousand others. Derek San DIego, California ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 05:33:47 EST From: NewcombG3 Subject: Where to get Exile and Praying to the Aliens To: numan@cs.uwp.edu For the benefit of Stephen Austra-Beck and anyone else who didn't get that earlier digest with the urls to buy Exile and Praying to the Aliens in the states, here's the link where I successfully obtained both. And thanks again to the person who originally posted them in the digest. There were a couple of others too, but you'd have to find that old digest. Exile and Praying to the Aliens are not hard to find in the states; you don't even have to get out of your chair!! Just go to this website: MASS MUSIC In case the link doesn't work, here's the url: http://massmusic.com/ I haven't finished reading PTTA yet, I'm only just about to the chapter I'm looking forward to the most, the "Dance" era. I have to say I was very pleasantly surprised by the book and find it very engrossing. I would say that is required reading for all Numan fans. If you don't have it, you must click on the link above and get your copy without delay! On the other hand, I have to say that I was disappointed with Exile. After all the enthusiastic reviews I've read in the digest, I was really looking forward to it. But I'm afraid its just another chapter of Gary spinning his wheels. "This is this" "This is that" and a lot of lame religious stuff, like the Digest was full of recently. This album ranks pretty low for me. It's certainly not up there with his first five albums, the essential works, and its not even better than most of the ones that came after that. Lyrically, it is a total loss because of all the religious crap, but there are some infectious grooves to keep you going after your brain has snapped off. I'm not sorry that I bought it, because I just have to have everything Gary does and I'm sure I'll listen to it occasionally (hey I think I'll put it on right now!), but I think it should be assessed properly, not praised to the skies only because its new. I would really like to see something great from Gary again, but Exile isn't it. Maybe it'll be a book! PTTA is a real page- turner. ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************