Gary Numan Digest Thu, 22 Jan 98 Volume 1 : Issue 401 Today's Topics: 3 thing's Convention Cosmos Dawn: Lucifer's Halo Finally Got the Bio! Gary Numan Digest V1 #400 (2 msgs) Introduction to the list Living Ornaments. Living Ornaments Vinyl Melody Maker single review Metal Beat mp3 request More information NUMAN-DAWN numan film samples Ou est Cedric? Praying to the Aliens The Blue Album Updates US release of Exile Wow!!! Whatta great newsletter! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:22:01 +0000 From: DONUT@cableinet.co.uk Subject: 3 thing's To: Numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi All. 1st thing..... On a Uk cable channel there is a program called TOP GEAR GTI which is all about cars and they repeat the program twice a day for one week. Last weeks program had a profile of an old BMW 7 series and while we were left to gawp at the BMW they played AFE as the back ground music. This means that AFE was played 14 times last week. I wonder how much revenue this created for the NUMA company? Lot's i hope. 2nd thing...... A few years ago "The Comic Strip" who consisted of Dawn French, Jenifer Saunders, Rick Mayell,Ade Edmundson and a few others, made a series od short film's for tv. One of these short films was shown on cable tv last week. It was called SUZIE and one of the main characters was a bloke called GARY DREADFULL who baught a farm and drove Range Rovers into trees. He was also living with a gay man but ran off with the main character Suzie. This Gary Dreadfull so i have been told was moddeled on our very own Numan apparently, EEEEEK! Did anyone else see it or remember it from years ago? 3rd thing....... I can't bloody remember.......DAMN!! Bye for now Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:13:52 From: Newcastle College Subject: Convention To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi my name is Jill and I have just joined this system, I 'm going to the Numan convention on 7th March in Milton Keynes in England, anyone else out there going? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:52:01 -0600 From: David Datta Subject: Cosmos To: numan > Ok, how about a trivia question, one that has been nagging me of > late...I seem to remember watching the series 'Cosmos' when it was > first on, and I SWEAR that during one sequence, I think it was > time-lapse of sunlight on city buildings, that I HEARD a bit of 'I > nearly married a Human'. However now that I have the box-set, I cannot > find it. Now, did they change the music for the tapes, or did I > hallucinate? Anyone? Yes, you did hear 'I Nearly Married a Human', it was on episode 3. They changed lots of the music for the video release because they didn't have rights. (The rights needed to play something on PBS versus a video release are very different.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:13:52 -0600 From: machman@interaccess.com (Jeff Tolva) Subject: Dawn: Lucifer's Halo To: numan@cs.uwp.edu *** Update Update Update *** I've only received one inquiry so far into this signed book! If no one else is interested, I will be practically giving it away to the one interested party. Make me an offer or it'll be gone as soon as I receive it in the mail. original message: I guess I was one of the lucky winners of the recent Beggars Banquet "Dawn can make you a Numan" contest. The only thing is, I'm not a terribly big fan of the Dawn series. I've apparently won an autographed copy of "Dawn: Lucifer's Halo" trade paperback by Joseph Michael Linsner. I'm assuming for now (as I don't actually have the book in hand yet) that it's autographed by Gary, and not by the author. I should hopefully have my prize somewhere in the first or second week of February. If anyone has an interest in buying or trading me something for this little gem, I'm all ears! Jeff Tolva (The Machman) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:09:44 EST From: Hopey77 Subject: Finally Got the Bio! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I finally got the PTTA book after nearly a month waiting and i'm a third of the way through the book I'm enjoying it very much. A few surprises, laughs and a growing hatred towards the british press. What Bowie did was inexcusable. Funny thing about Steve Strange - didn't he get arrested in the 80's for stealing checks or something? But the main point I get is that Numan WINGED IT!!! If anyone gets wind of that Saturday Night Live with Numan being shown on Comedy Central any time soon - put out the word and we can all set our VCRs! Got Numan-Dawn today; haven't listened to it yet... Hopey77 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:26:10 +0300 From: "Peter Enright" Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #400 To: "Gary Numan" To: vboston - re: Numan movie samples, It's minus 12 outside. The snow is falling. The coffee is hot. Good time to craft a response to the Numan digest. Am I the only Numaniac living in Moscow? Someone please let me know! I feel so alone ... I've identified most of Numan's movie dialogue samples. The intro to Outland (can't hear any Japanese dialogue - are you confusing this with the intro to "Call Out The Dogs"? - which is taken from "Blade Runner") is from "Predator" - the first few words are mumbled so I can't quite get them, but it's the bad-ass black actor warning the black CIA dude in no uncertain terms "....? muthafucker, I don't care who you are back in the world, you give our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, leave you here. Got that?" + "Payback time" is when Jesse Ventura unwraps the gattling gun just before that wonderful overkill scene where they waste a whole section of forest and still hit nothing. "Makes Cambodia look like Kansas" - is Jesse Ventura also from "Predator" + "Anytime" also from Predator - it's the sample that the Predator itself keeps replaying after observing and recording Billy the Indian as he stabs the scorpion off the CIA agent's neck. These movies was quite obviously one of Gary's favourites. I'll bet he jumps into fatigues, camouflages his face and straps on his guns to watch it. Hmmm ... not a bad idea for his next image .. Stormtrooper in drag ... ? As I mentioned, the intro for "Call Out The Dogs" is lifted from "Blade Runner" and it's the scene where J. F. Sebastian is leading Pris to his apartment. The intro starts with the Japanese "dialogue" from one of the giant hovering advertising "blimps" (which is used again over a shot of a huge advertising video that covers the entire side of a skyscraper) and continues on into the sound of Pris' heels as the old fashioned cage lift doors open, then slam shut, and Pris asks "You live in this building all by yourself?" and J. F. replies "Yeah, I live pretty much live alone right now. No housing shortage around here." There are a few other songs, can't remember now exactly which ones, I think from "Berserker", "Strange Charm", and "New Anger" that contain samples from "Blade Runner" one that comes to mind is the replicant Roy (Rutger Hauer) confronting Tyrell "I want more life (fucker" but sadly Numan cut "fucker" off.) And "You're the prodigal son". Also in the track "Puppets" Numan has used a few funky samples from "The Blues Brothers". Belushi: "...... you're gonna put me right back in the joint." Akroyd: "They're not gonna catch us, we're on a mission from God!" - screeching tyres. And the whole "I want to buy your women" scene from the restaurant. Plus where the phone box is blown up by Carrie Fisher: Belushi: "There must be seven dollars worth of change here!" And one other from "The Blues Brothers" I can't get my ears around. One that had eluded me for years (can't remember the song just now) suddenly popped up on TV one night in London - it was the Russian drug smuggler warning Arnie's KGB Colnel in "Red Heat" - "Without me, you don't even exist" Many years ago, during hours of boredom at the TV post production company I was working for in Sydney, I edited my own video clip to "Call Out The Dogs" (the extended mix) and synced up all the "Blade Runner" samples to their original film sequences - it makes a funky video! I did the same for "Outland" and re-synced all the "Predator" samples and added sequences from "Total Recall" and "Terminator" and it also makes a cool video. Does anyone know where the sample at the start of "Skin Games" comes from? - "Everyday I am feeling a little more optimistic." I use it on my answer machine! Pete Enright (tiktokman) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:55:59 EST From: KIRBY49 Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #400 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu please unsubscribe kirby49@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:00:31 -0700 From: "Leslie S Bird" Subject: Introduction to the list To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Well, this is my first time to the Gary Numan mailing list, so let me introduce myself. My name is Leslie Bird. I've been a Numan fan since high school, when I first saw Gary on 'Saturday Night Live.' I've always been thrilled and fascinated by electronic music, and Gary's music and odd lyrics appealed mightily. I was a Numan fan at a time when every other kid in school was into Hall & Oates or Christopher Cross (*choke*). I guess you can say I was a little ODD. I loved Gary Numan because his music was about REAL alienation, not the typical teen angst stuff that everybody else was doing. I've been a fan ever since, although I sort of dropped out in the late eighties, about the time Gary was using those 'doo-wop girls'. And of course, it IS rather hard to find his stuff here in the southeastern United States. But I just got a copy of 'Exile' and I love it, except it sounds like the drum machine has only one pattern. I also appreciated Gary Numan for his aviation interests, I'm an Air Traffic Controller, I don't have an actual pilot's license yet but I will one of these days. I'm not a professional musican (yet), but I do dabble a bit, I have a couple of analog synths but I've got a couple of digital ones as well. Ok, how about a trivia question, one that has been nagging me of late...I seem to remember watching the series 'Cosmos' when it was first on, and I SWEAR that during one sequence, I think it was time-lapse of sunlight on city buildings, that I HEARD a bit of 'I nearly married a Human'. However now that I have the box-set, I cannot find it. Now, did they change the music for the tapes, or did I hallucinate? Anyone? Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:36:40 +0100 From: DE VISSCHER Luc Subject: Living Ornaments. To: "'numan@cs.uwp.edu'" Hi there, Got the LO's last week, and I am thrilled. The intro of both CD's really give me the shivers!!!! Absolutely brilliant. Spoke to Beryl last week, but apart of what we know (European and US tour, Dominion day video and single), nothing new. The Belgian website was mentioned in a music magazine and we get some feedback out of it, and additional members for the fanclub. Most of critics in the papers in Belgium were positive apart of one, so the trip of Gary over here in October was quite successful. Best title: "Everybody loves Gary Numan". No comments on the album itself though, just mentioning it was out. Anyway, the local company did its very best. Hope they'll get some airplay with Dominion Day. Greetings from Belgium, Luc > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:12:22 -0000 From: "Barry Lynch" Subject: Living Ornaments Vinyl To: With all this talk again about Living Ornaments Vinyl, has anyone else noticed the hand-carved messages in the 'run-outs' where they normally scratch the catalogue numbers, probably done by the man himself? (Thanks & No More Than Memories) Barry Lynch London barry.lynch@bigfoot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:08:03 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie Subject: Melody Maker single review To: Numan Digest Gary Numan Random 2.3 Latest episode in the series of EPs in which the 80s synth-pop prince is overhauled by contemporary MIDI manipulators. Getting to grips with "Warriors", Dave Angel continues his impressive tech-funk assault of unsuspecting dancefloors by letting snatches of the Numanoid's vocals sleepwalk across percussive hot coals and luring in silken strings smooth enough to slide down. London's Liberators then give "Are friends electric" a sound thrashing by utilising hell's door knocker as a kick drum and winding resonatig Piranha synths around its trail before New York's Steve Stoll discovers the hypnoswitch hidden in the chassis of "Remember I was vapour" and takes it for a deep midnight cruise -- *********************************** * * Andy McHaffie * * *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:44:12 -0000 From: "Andrew Westwood" Subject: Metal Beat mp3 request To: "Numan Digest" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BD25DB.C88A1500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have the 'Metal Beat' mpeg file ? - I managed to = accidentally wipe mine in a mad fit of hard drive cleaning. Cheers, Andy ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BD25DB.C88A1500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone have the = 'Metal Beat'=20 mpeg file ? - I managed to accidentally wipe mine in a mad fit of hard = drive=20 cleaning.

Cheers,

Andy

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BD25DB.C88A1500-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:22:36 From: Newcastle College Subject: More information To: numan@cs.uwp.edu My name is Jill, I'm here again, I am 28 and I have been a Gary Numan fan since I was 9, that's nearly 20 years. I also like Depeche Mode, Metallica, Marilyn Manson, most eighties music and various indie bands. See you soon. JIll ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:42:38 +0100 From: Klaus Sauer Subject: NUMAN-DAWN To: Gary Numan It was very difficult to get the SIRIUS-"DAWN"-Releases of "SACRIFICE" and "MAGIC" here in Germany. If anybody can help me, please drop me a line. --------- MACHINE + SOUL - The GARY NUMAN-Website From Germany --------- http://www.herten.netsurf.de/~klaus.sauer/MachSoul.htm --------- Klaus Sauer, Kirchstr. 10, 45699 Herten, Germany --------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 02:18:21 -0000 From: "JASON J SMITH" Subject: numan film samples To: in regard to the query in the last digest, i have managed to spot many of gary's 'discreet' lifts from films for use on his material. many of the blade runner samples are obvious i.e start of Call out the Dogs etc. however, how many people have spotted that the start of This Disease is actually Pris's scream from when Deckard nails her. On a lighter note, the beginning of Machine and Soul 'We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams' is allegedly taken from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. The foreign speech samples at the start of the Outland album are from Red Heat, as are the dialogue snippets on Intervals two and three - 'the people have many needs, one is law and order - other - entertainment - without me you don't even exist.' the start of the actual track Outland is from Predator, with samples from this film, Aliens and Terminator contributing to many tracks on the album. There is also a film soundtrack which supplies the whole backing track for 'Magic' - not really a sample as it includes rhythm, melody and even the little 'grunt' sounds. however, as i write this i have unfortunately forgotten the title of the film, although i do have it on video. speaking of video, has anyone seen the film 'The Prophecy' starring Christopher Walken? I suspect i know someone who has as the 1994 film is all about Angel Wars, Dead Heaven and erm, Prophecies.... Incidentally, i agree that NIN's Pretty Hate Machine was excellent - one of the best non-Numan albums i have ever heard. however, i also agree that his subsequent work has been piss-poor, and i suggest that Gary produce their next album, rather than vice versa!! Look at it this way people, Gary is first and foremost a 'pop star', and a dark nasty industrialist second. he, and we, wish for chart success for his new material but in honesty, NIN are hardly chart toppers themselves. i am not implying they don't sell, far from it, but they sell to an 'alternative' market which unfortunately is not mainstream in the UK and most of Europe. although i am sure such a move (which would doubtless entail a far noisier and less musical output) would prove successful in the USA, aren't we best just to leave Gary to produce his own work? after all, 20 years into a career against all odds, he is clearly doing something right. i humbly suggest we just accept the direction Gary chooses for himself....after all we are only fans. Exile is an awesome body of work, possibly his best, and it is slightly sycophantic for us to pontificate about what we think would be better. and as for those of you who criticise the drum loops, these have become Gary's trademark in recent times. regardless of whether they are repetitive or not, which i don't think they are (as a musician), they ARE gary numan and that is all that matter surely. are you the same people who criticised Machine and Soul for being 'too poppy' or Outland for being 'too funky.' in 1979 many of you would have slagged The Pleasure Principle for being 'too synthy'. be serious. the man knows what he is doing. let's just sit back and enjoy it and talk about that for a change. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:50:58 -0000 From: "downstat" Subject: Ou est Cedric? To: "Gary Numan" > Re Living Ornamnents 79 cd. > open the case and look at the inner cover on the back part of the cd > the shot of the group WHO THE HELL IS THAT DRUMMER !!!! because it > doesn't look like Ced ! > I noticed this too. In 1979 Ced had a great big bushy barnet (as per the roadside picture in the booklet). It definitely isn't Ced on drums. There's a TV camera there. So which show was this - either Hammersmith or perhaps Paris? Austin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:25 -0700 (MST) From: "Stephen.Austra-beck" Subject: Praying to the Aliens To: numan digest I found 'Praying to the Aliens' at our local Tower after checking a few times. It listed for $28.00 but got it for $20.00 with a friend's employee discount. Thank you to all who have forwarded info where to order a copy, I am grateful. I want to comment the presentation was far better and deserving of Numan than I had expected. Nice hardcover, good quality paper. The selection of photos were sparce, but appropriate (and a treat to see the todler Numan). I look very forward to reading this, and think it is a fine gift to us, his fans who have followed and adored this man as I know I have. I was expecting your usual rock 'zine book format. This exceeded my expectations. I recommend this to all fans, and any with a passing interest or curiosity. / Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:35:26 -0000 From: "Tony Clark " Subject: The Blue Album To: "Numan Digest" Thanks for the Numan digest issue 400. This was my first and i was very impressed with the quality and commitment shown. First, i would like to say that i have been a Gary Numan fan since 1979 at the release of "Are Friends Electric?" and i have been hooked ever since, and i have been fortunate enough (living in the UK) to go every year to his fabulous concerts. My favourite song is "You Walk IN My Soul" which is on the "Sacrifice" album and is written about Gary's new wife. He sang this live this year at his concert and had the whole hall mesmorised. Anyway, i have a copy of the "Blue Album" and for those who dont know what this is, its the "Tubeway Army" LP (normally white cover) in a blue vinal. i know its rare. What i want to know if anybody out there has a copy of this and do they know how much it's worth. I also once saw a clear vinal copy of the "Telecon" album but it had gone by the time i was able to by it...does anybody have this, and how rare is it? Finally, any fans out there, from wherever, if you want to chat generally about Numan please e-mail me, as i am alone in Wales as a fan. Ta Ta for now.. Tony Clark E-mail: Tony.Clark@Clara.Net Web Site: http://home.clara.net/tony.clark Tel:01792 - 582558 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:55:29 -0500 From: brezniakdavid@webtv.net (David Brezniak) Subject: Updates To: numan@cs.uwp.edu For those of you who unfortunately don't have access to the various websites... Gary's latest news update: The video for "Dominion Day" is finished. The song has been slightly cut in time, but Gary is very pleased with the video. Yes, they're all still yappin' about the upcoming UK tour in the spring, as well as the WORLD tour this year...No dates are final yet, 'The Agency' is in the booking process for Gary, and dates will be released very soon.... I think that's all that's happening today... I just ordered a copy of PTTA...hard copy.. Yes, I know...I somehow lost my other copy, I have a strong feeling my roommate used it for firewood, as he's not a Numan fan yet....BUT one of these days he's accidentally gonna turn on his cd player and hear 'Dominion Day' and maybe I'll change his mind a bit. Valentine's Day is just around the corner.. remember I love chocolates....and whatever you send, I'll split half with Miss Marlene..... Cheers for now... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:35:22 -0800 From: "D.G." Subject: US release of Exile To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Did I understand Rod Reynolds corectly , in his recent post regarding the US release of Exile ? Instead of the original version of Exile , us here in the states will be getting a slightly redone ( sanitized , adulterated , etc.. ) version , with a stale" live" track ( Are Friends Electric ) tacked on to the end ( as a bonus ? ) . If that is so , I don't want it , and I won't buy it ! I have been purposely waiting for the US release , in order to help with initial sales in this market . I sincerly hope that this isn't how my patients will be rewarded ! I want "EXILE" , not a reworked "Americanized" version of it , with " altered artwork " and a " bonus track " ( live version of an old song ) tackyed onto the end ! Isn't this why Gary left I.R.S records ? Fred Geer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:57:41 EST From: DCGaySLP Subject: Wow!!! Whatta great newsletter! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi everyone!! Just had to post how I felt that Digest #400 has got to be one of the best I'd read in ages....some responses: theartdept@att.net (rod reynolds): Thanks for all the insider info on the Cleopatra front!! I'm sure you'll be getting email from Riana (Somacrow@aol.com) very soon....(hee hee hee....Hi Riana) Riana: I'll pass on the email address to the world while I'm here....the email address for KSCU radio is KSCU@aol.com....just in case you want to thank them for their support of Gary here in the US....God knows it's LONG overdue! I thanked them A LOT....they have a pretty kewl website as well. For: temp Who's Gary Newman? Is he Randy Newman's brother?? hee hee For: vboston@softech.ie Surprised you didn't mention the Blade Runner samples from Warriors...or is that TOO obvious?? ;-) Hee hee...Talk to you all later... Living in Exile, Killing all the angels... Rick in DC ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************