Gary Numan Digest Sun, 29 Mar 98 Volume 1 : Issue 420 Today's Topics: #e-mail I eat dust# 2 Random for you?! Assassination by .........no promotion Brussels. chat with richard beasley in Utrecht. Dominion Day-CD Eagle Responds Enough is Enough is Enough Give NA a ChaNcE!!! Greetings fellow Numanoids! ICQ my two cents... no more.... no less NO MORE RELIGION!!!! Numan, Religion, Blah, Blah, Blah Numan in Utrecht/26.03.1998 Numan on game show! Numan Tour Dates - Some Confirmed open your mind not close your heart Random 2 Religion and on and on... Seattle Update - Numan tour US tour (2 msgs) US Tour Sites ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:25:14 EST From: SisterSurx Subject: #e-mail I eat dust# To: numan@cs.uwp.edu To anyone who recently e-mailed me as a result of Replicant's Room could you please forward your e-mail address (and message if possible), stupid Bitch me erased my "electric friends" folder by mistake. Thanks xxx! >From ME Your Sister Surprise x PS Here is #1,979 of "useless information about Gary Numan" - in Eastenders on Tuesday 24 March, in the background of a conversation between Nigel and Mary.....they played 'Cars'. I know that everyone's life is now complete (I know that mine's is......hahahaha!). Replicant's Room - http://members.aol.com/replicant6 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:34:23 -0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: 2 Random for you?! To: Greetings from the nose bleed land of Techno! In response to Tony J's comments to the list reference report backs on Random 2, lets just say that some of us, although not having the ability to quantify why something is rubbish or tosh, will just have to accept to differ between other list members. It appears that some people expect to hear a resemblance to the original Numan tracks, I for one don't. I want to hear something new. In the case of Random 2, from musicians who have the ability to understand the Numan concept and yet produce their own up-to-date compositions, even though it may be dance orientated. Technology has moved on since Numan's early days with the Moog's and Prophecy's, and in today.s world the way people are using electronics does not always appeal to everyone (the boink, boink's!). In a sentence of final defence, please do not associate Random 2 with nose bleed Techno! This is something totally different, and if it were that, I for one would not be praising it's content!! >From the one who understands Techno! Craig. PS. Was that gentle enough for you Tony?! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:38:32 -0500 From: Dryad Subject: To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Someone preached: > "Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you."- The Acts 13:41 Oh yeah? well, my gods can beat up your god. Clea, born again pagan "For NASA, space is still a high priority." -- Vice President Dan Quayle, 9/5/90 annagrey at sover dot net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:20:26 -0000 From: "downstat" Subject: Assassination by .........no promotion To: "Gary Numan" So here we are again. Monday 30th March has been set for months to be the release date for Dominion Day - Gary Numan's first single release on a major label for 7 years, and his first single since the start of the true Numan renaissance. What a pitiful piece of marketing/promotion. No reported sitings of the video on MTV, The Box, or VH-1, let alone terrestrial channels. No mention at all of the single in any of the UK's weekly music press - no editorials, no adverts, no reviews. No reported sitings of the single being played on the radio, either national or regional. No flyposters up declaring *Gary Numan, the pioneer of electronica, is back. Often copied, Never equalled. Check out his new single Dominion Day.* Nothing. Even the Numan fanatics are in the dark. Our purchase in the same week is essential if the single is to be pushed into the lower realms of the chart to ensure momentum. Are we to troop down to HMV on monday morning or not? No mailshot from the fan club (which is still the only form of communication with the majority of fans). Not even an update on NuWorld. Yes, Yes, I know, - Beryl and Gary are busy on tour. But if the whole marketing push relies on Gary and Beryl being behind their desks, then we can forget about any degree of success for the single. No offence to either Gary or Beryl, but relaunching Gary's career relies on a sustained attack by professional publicists. It should not rely on the artist himself and his mother. Is Dominion Day being released on Monday or not? I hope that it isn't. It's probably been put back a week or two. The question is, will Eagle and the Numan Organisation ever get their act together? In contrast, Simple Minds (whose situation in the market is not too dissimilar to Numan's) have a new single out soon. I think its called Glitterball or something similar. I'm not a fan of SM, but its received enough promotion for me to know that they have a new single out, and for me to know roughly what it's called. I've even seen the video three or four times. This promotion hasn't just happened. It's been MADE to happen. Ironically, it is now a fact that Gary's backing band get more promotion than Gary himself. This week's NME contains an advert for John Foxx's tour in April. The ad includes the line "Support on all dates *DIG* - featuring Gary Numan band members including Ade Orange". I previously didn't know that John Foxx was going on tour. I might now go and see him at Shepherds Bush. Solid evidence that adverts work! Have any adverts been run in the German/French/Dutch music press for Gary's European tour? From what others have reported on this digest, there's been nothing. Eagle Records and The Agency have relied on Telepathy instead. Come on Eagle - do something. You can start by sending an e-mail to this internet digest telling us what the state of play is regarding the Dominion Day single. Do you want us to go down to our local chart return record shop to buy your product on Monday or not? The address is numan@cs.uwp.edu. Your message will then be e-mailed to 600 Numan fans around the world on Sunday 29th. Go on. Surprise us. Regards to all, Austin London cc Publicity Manager, Eagle Records by fax: 0181 875 0050 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:30:27 +0100 From: "joeri" Subject: Brussels. To: "Gary Numan" Brussels was great yesterday. AGAIN the portable keyboard which is linked to the Alesis Quadrasynth and Korg M1 via MIDI played by David Brooks didn't work! Gary's microphone didn't work for almost half a minute at 'Cars'. Friends of mine who don't know Numan, but bought 'Exile', were very enthousiastic. Went to the afterparty, talked to Numan, (3 songs are ready for the next album which is going to be released in 1999), it's going to be much more live-played. Talked to Richard again, the man is really fantastic, and Steve, also fantastic (told me he normally plays blues!!!! and was VERY looking forward to go to the US), David Brooks was very horney-looking at some girls...and disapeared. The band said, Gary is a great man to work for. The only thing that bothers me is that Gary didn't introduce the band (on the 4 concerts I went to), because for me, this band makes the difference between a good and FANTASTIC Numan-concert. They all play at high level. Steve's style ( better as 'kipper') keeping it very simple but agressive, The power of Richard, the look and quality of Ade(wearing BONO-liked sunglasses) and David always moving and headbanging.( wearing strange tiger-contactlenses, Gemma was wearing them too). Joeri Peeters Belgium ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:03:33 +0100 From: "Peeters Joeri (RBBE/EWB)" Subject: chat with richard beasley in Utrecht. To: "'numan@cs.uwp.edu'" At the concert in Utrecht I had a chat with Richard Beasley. I wanted to talk to him because since Dream Corrosion I became a big fan of Richard. He was very kind and thanked me because I told him that after he joined the NUMAN-band Numan's music was MUCH better. I told him it was a shame he wasn't on Gary's 'EXILE'. He replied with: On Gary's new album there is going to be much more played live, less sequencer and I probably will be playing on the new album too! That's the best news I heard in years, imagine the powersound of richard.(should have been done since 'sacrifice') A friend of mine who's a drummer too was very pleased to see the man play. (I told him he had to hear him play). For me, in Utrecht Numan was more vital as in Paris and Cologne. Still for me 'Paris' is still the best of the tour. The concert was great as always. Again there was something wrong with a keyboard and during 'An Alien Cure' mistakes were played but noone really noticed.(during the chorus a keyboardplayer was completely wrong and it lasted for about 30 seconds before he was on the right track) So for the rest of the concert the keyboardplayer (not Ade Orange, forget his name) didn't use the the portable yamaha-keyboard anymore. Love ' Films' so much! (the Dutch crowd went wild during films, metal, ...) That's all for now, I hope in America enough people show up because it's really worth it and I hope you will enjoy it as much as I have.(and we all have). Up to Brussels, Joeri Peeters Belgium. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:35:56 +0100 From: Klaus Sauer Subject: Dominion Day-CD To: Gary Numan As a reply to the question of William Wilson I can tell you this: The first "Dominion Day"-CD-Single is out now. When I said first I mean, that this is CD One of a Two-CD-set. The CD has the Order-No. EAGXS008. The Tracks are: Dominion Day (Video Edit) 3:42 Voix (20th Anniversary Version) 4:47 Dead Heaven (Extended Mix, taken from Exile (Extended Mixes)) 7:52 Cars (live, recorded at the Shepherds Bush Empire, London, Nov. 9th 97) 3:29 Which tracks are on the second CD of this CD-Set I don't know. I have only the first CD at the moment. ---------- MACHINE + SOUL - The GARY NUMAN-Website From Germany ---------- http://www.herten.netsurf.de/~klaus.sauer/MachSoul.htm ---------- Klaus Sauer, Kirchstr. 10, 45699 Herten, Germany ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:44:00 -0000 From: "downstat" Subject: Eagle Responds To: "Gary Numan" Digesters, I sent a copy of my previous post on this digest to the Publicity Manager at Eagle records on Thursday as promised. A chap called Joe rang me Friday afternoon and left a message on my answer machine, asking me to call back. He also said that Dominion Day has been put back to Monday 6th April. He didn't mention that he was going to respond on the digest. (Are they on e-mail????). Hopefully I'll talk to Joe on Monday and find out what they have planned to let us US and the rest of the world's record buying punters know that Gary has a new single out. Regards, Austin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:29:00 -0000 From: "MARSH, Phil" Subject: Enough is Enough is Enough To: "'Numan Digest'" Hello Campers Am I the only one experiencing deja vous? Someone once again raises the (seemingly perpetual) "I won't buy Exile as it offends my beliefs" statement. Someone else says "open your eyes and your mind". Reasonably cordial (well, kinda...) at this point. Someone else jumps in and says Christians are all small minded, blinkered individuals and resorts to name calling. Mathew Roberts proclaims himself arbiter of Digest content by saying how bored he is with it - then proceeds to tell different portions of the Digest membership what he thinks of them...very interesting THAT was... And now we have "Ken" - who tells us all he "doesn't believe in atheists", then proceeds to insult and bait them...him and Mathew would appear to conduct themselves in a similar fashion (even if that would be anathema to them both). Ken's message - ooh, surprise - not a hint of Numan content to be seen. Whether either side of the argument is right or wrong is immaterial - could we PLEASE stop the religious debate?! Whether we do or don't believe was done to DEATH several months ago - and I can't have been the only one driven to the verge of unsubscribing. If anyone wants to carry on the religious argument, why can't they take it OFF the Digest to private mail?! Cheers all Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:23:12 PST From: "Jenny Beck" Subject: Give NA a ChaNcE!!! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu are people from the UK going to fly to the USA to see NUMAN???? where do you get the $$$ for this??? plus don't you see him enough when he's in europe??? US here in the USA have seen him once or most no tomes at all like me. It would be nice when he comes to BOSTON to have a more intimate concert, with less people. maybe then he will talk to the fans after the concert,,, does he always do that anyways,, no matter how big the crowds are??? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:32:38 -0600 From: "DAVID ELLISON" Subject: Greetings fellow Numanoids! To: Hello Everyone, It's been a long time since I've posted anything. Please note my new e-mail address: numanboy@prodigy.net I also invite everyone to visit my NumanBoy site at: http://pages.prodigy.net/numanboy/numanboy.htm I've posted pictures from my trip to see the Exile 97 tour in London, Bristol, Guildford and Cambridge...plus some of my other interests. And speaking of Cambridge (Massachusetts, that is). I bought what I think may be the first ticket sold for the US tour today. A BIG THANKS to Joey Lindstrom, for all his work putting the information on the dates together. Visit The World Wide Webb for all the confirmed dates and info: http://www.interocitor.net/worldwidewebb/ I will (hopefully) be following the entire tour, but definitely all the Northeast and Midwest dates (Unfortunately Gary is not coming here to Dallas). I like to hear from anyone going to the shows, especially the Boston/Cambridge shows. I'll be setting up the pre-show get together in Cambridge. Tentatively UPSTAIRS at the MiddleEast, if the room is open and available.. For those who have never seen Gary in concert..... I cannot even begin to describe how I felt seeing him for the first time ever...you will want do what ever it takes to see him more than once. Since we all seem to agree that promotion seems to very poor, I suggest that maybe we as fans, make up flyers to drop off at record stores, clubs, etc.. Just an idea, but let me know what you think. Cheers Everyone! Looking forward to seeing and meeting some of you at the shows! David aka NumanBoy "the strangest living boy...you could ever wish to see...that's me.." P.S. To: Andy West: I am a step closer to sending you that pack of pics!! P.P.S. To: Shane: Where are you? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:39:14 -0600 From: jazztrancer@iquest.net Subject: ICQ To: numan@cs.uwp.edu By the way, If anyone out there uses ICQ (www.icq.com) look me up anytime I am online. My UIN# is 5350857. Later, Mark A Hubbard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:07:58 -0700 From: "Dominion Da(m)e" Subject: my two cents... no more.... no less To: hi.... well i've been reading thru the posts from everyone and find it extremely disturbing that people today can be so close minded about religion!! i will state my own humble opinion once to the group and then if anyone wishes to discuss my comments.... please e-mail me privately > tamatha@enterprise.cybersurf.net < instead of flooding the group with your religion bashing comments! i am pagan....... i pray to no god or goddess..... i believe in the earth and the sky. for one to believe in a god or goddess... they must first believe in themselves.... and i struggled for many years to believe in myself. i no longer struggle, because i know what is real for me....... therefore why would i judge others for their beliefs? what right do i have to judge others for any reason? what right do others have to judge me? ~~~"judge not others...lest yee be judged yourself"~~~ as for all the griping about the content of "exile"..... give me a break... an artist can only be passionate about that which consumes them. the references to xianity are those opinions held by the artist.... what is the problem with that?? everyone fears that which they do not understand.... therefore if you cannot understand that gary is questioning his own belief and not yours....... you may have a problem dis-associating yourself from the art of mr. numan!! with all that off my chest...... i would like to say that i signed onto this mailing list to obtain more information regarding gary numan not to read your debates on religion. i do my thing.... you do yours... keep your arguments betwix yourselves...and we'll all be happy :-) "......within the corners of my blackened heart.... i live with your smile......... and i weep...... longing for the memories to fade quickly......." 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well i've been reading = thru the posts from everyone and find it extremely disturbing that = people today can be so close minded about religion!! i will state = my own humble opinion once to the group and then if anyone = wishes to discuss my comments.... please e-mail me = privately
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instead of flooding the group with your religion bashing = comments!

i am pagan....... i pray to no god or goddess..... i = believe in the earth and the sky. for one to believe in a god or = goddess... they must first believe in themselves.... and i struggled for = many years to believe in myself. i no longer struggle, because i = know what is real for me....... therefore why would i judge others for = their beliefs? what right do i have to judge others for any reason? what = right do others have to judge me?
= ~~~"judge not others...lest yee be = judged yourself"~~~

as for all the griping about the content = of "exile"..... give me a break... an artist can only be = passionate about that which consumes them. the references to = xianity are those opinions held by the artist.... what is the problem = with that?? everyone fears that which they do not understand.... = therefore if you cannot understand that gary is questioning his own = belief and not yours....... you may have a problem = dis-associating yourself from the art of mr. numan!!

with all = that off my chest...... i would like to say that i signed onto this = mailing list to obtain more information regarding gary numan = not to read your debates on religion. i do my = thing.... you do yours... keep your arguments betwix yourselves...and = we'll all be happy :-)

"......within the corners of my = blackened heart.... i live with your smile......... and i weep...... = longing for the memories to fade quickly......." (copyright T. Mitch 1997)

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------=_NextPart_000_01BD58A7.6EFB5630-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:56:07 PST From: "Jenny Beck" Subject: NO MORE RELIGION!!!! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I'M SICK OF SCROLLING DOWN THROUGH MY NUMAN MAIL and READING(but not even reading them anymore) ARGUMENT AFTER AGRUMENT OF RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND HOW THEY RELATE TO EXILE and persoanl life stlyes and beliefs etc... CALM DOWN!!!!! no one wnats to hear it!!SO PLEASE LETS SAVE EVEYBODY TIME AND SPACE AND GET SOME MORE USEFUL STUFF IN HERE. +I'm surrounded with old stories and no where to hide+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:25:59 -0800 From: Pythoness Subject: Numan, Religion, Blah, Blah, Blah To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) <--Prolonged sound of Ziggy trying very hard not to add more compost to the perpetual, recurrent, emotional, ongoing, Numan/religion thread, and finally failing-- Look at it this way. I don't like _Outland_ (could also be _Warriors_) because it doesn't agree with my belief system. My musical belief system, that is. In fact, most of it *offends* my musical belief system. It does indeed challenge it, by giving my brain the distinct feeling that sandpaper is being rubbed against my cerebral cortex. Would I be a better person if I listened to it? You think so? Why?? In short, I don't like it, and I don't listen to it. Now, why the hell do any of you care *why* someone doesn't like a song or album? You can like/dislike it because you're Christian, atheist, don't like funk, don't like wailing female backup/saxophones/Kipper/Numaballads/etc. These are elements of taste, for which, as the saying goes, there is no accounting. To each hir own. Vive la difference. Beauty is in the ear of the beholder. Personally, tree-thumping, running-naked-in-the-woods-chanting, pentacle-slapping, former-atheist Pagan that I am, I think that all religions and ethical belief systems are needed, or they wouldn't exist. I don't think all of them are right or good, and I promise not to get any further into that here because--drum roll please--THAT TOPIC DOESN'T BELONG HERE. And it never gets anywhere. And it's boring. And even if I think a belief system is wrong, I still regard the person holding it as my equal and worthy of the same respect I think I'm worthy of. I really like _Exile_. I really don't like _Outland_ (or _Warriors_). Is it because I'm narrow-minded? Could be--I find it rather sinful to deal with funk on certain levels. Do any of you really care? Maybe, but get a grip and calm down. Go watch TV or get a life. We're all Numan fans and we don't have to agree. Gary's done a lot of music over the last twenty (yow!) years, and there's room for all of us. Good grief, let someone say they like or don't like a song or album and say why w/o challenging them on it. You're not going to change anyone's belief system here (either way), so you might as well respect each other's views. And lastly , on the other interminable thread re: Gary: Twat or Not?--I certainly have no moral judgements on how he behaved behind closed doors (mirrored or no) with other consenting adults ever. However, come on, haven't many of us been just a *little* disillusioned, at some point or other, with finding that Gary was a bit more human than he had made us think when we were fifteen or sixteen? I know I was. It was a long time ago, and I've been disillusioned about a lot of more important things since then, and it's really OK, but I did sympathize, whether or not I sympathized with the precise reason the original poster did. Ahem. I feel better now. zg Ziggy's House O' Vermin zigi@teleport.com --------------------------- "Come, apple-sweet murmurer! Come, four-angled frame of harmony! Come Summer! Come Winter, from the mouths of harps and bags and pipes!" --The Dagda invoking his harp (four-angled?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:17:08 +0100 From: DE VISSCHER Luc Subject: Numan in Utrecht/26.03.1998 To: "'numan@cs.uwp.edu'" Well, after Paris and the 100 people, in Utrecht I was pleased to see about 300/400 people showing up for the concert. We managed to see Tony and Beryl, whom later on we met again in the Mc Donalds. There was a starter which wasn't too bad (considering some of the previous support acts) named "Clan of Xynox" (I think), heavy synths and very 'The Cure'. Gary was in excellent condition, and I have to admit I like more and more the new "Friends" version. The "Metal" sound is absolutely fabulous. For some reason, "We are glass" was dropped from the set. The concert was over at about 12:20 am, and it's a 1.5 hours drive back to Brussels. So, I was in bed at about 3am (had to take a shower before going to sleep), and I'm in the office now... I feel a little numb. I was happy to have met Klaus Sauer from Machine and Soul website, and David from Sydney. And some Dutch people I had lost contact with 15 years ago. Well, I'll see them back tonight for the Brussels gig. For Brussels tonight, I know that between 1,000 and 1,500 tickets were sold. So Gary's very right to end up in Brussels, since this was his most popular European country. Called the venue yesterday, and the music when you're on hold was Exile!!! Great. So watch out for next review of the Brussels concert. (Which you should have in the same digest of Sunday, 29.03.1998) Luc >Belgium > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:38:10 -0600 From: jazztrancer@iquest.net Subject: Numan on game show! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello fellow Numanoids! Just a short note to let you know, that the other night I was watching a new game show on either MTV or VH1, called "My Generation". The game pits 2 sets of two people against each other for musical trivia based on the music played on the radio around the time they would have graduated college. They had a catagory where they say the name of an artist, and then the contestant has to spell it. The contestant that answered had gotten nothing right nearly all night, but this she really slaugtered. The host said "Gary Numan", to which this contestant replied, "Randy Neuman, R.A.N.D...." then proceeded to spell Randys name, not Gary's. Well, it was fun just to see his name pop up in another place. Still not seen the Pop-Up-Video for Cars yet, but they rerun them so much, it should not take too long. Later all, Take care Sincerely, Mark A Hubbard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:54:44 -0700 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: Numan Tour Dates - Some Confirmed To: "numan@cs.uwp.edu" OK, we have confirmation on six of the thirteen scheduled dates on the upcoming Canada/US Tour. They are: Philadelphia - May 1st New York - May 2nd Cambridge - May 3rd Toronto - May 7th Vancouver - May 14th Los Angeles - May 19th I expect more information to funnel in over the next couple of weeks, although I'm hearing that the Boston date may be in jeopardy. Stay tuned. And speaking of staying tuned, I've set up a special web page that will not only keep you up to date on all of this (including phone numbers for venues, showtimes, directions to the venue, nearby hotel information, the kitchen sink, etc.), but also to accomodate everyone over the last few months who's been shouting "I'm going to 'venue x', who else is going I'd like to meet you!" There is a "Let's Meet" section and I've got people signed up for every single venue. If you're planning on going, and/or can assist with choosing a meeting location and coordinating a bit of stuff, then please do come visit this page. You can find it via the World Wide Webb at: http://www.interocitor.net/worldwidewebb/ There's a link right on the front page there - or, if you prefer, you can jump to it directly at: http://www.interocitor.net/worldwidewebb/canada-us/ The page will have all the up-to-the-minute information, updated and re-uploaded within minutes of my receiving new information, and I usually check my email about twice a day. So far the response has been phenomenal - even more so than with the Birthday Card thing we did back in early March. :-) Personally, I'm planning to attend both Vancouver and Seattle, with San Francisco remaining a faint possibility. Hope to see some of you there (a big "howdy" to George Ellis in Germany and Danny Burrell in the UK, both of whom are planning to fly over). / From Joey Lindstrom joey@lindstrom.com / Interocitor Dot Net http://www.interocitor.net / / A while ago, I went skiing in England. It was a rare package: two weeks / in England, one night in Connecticut, two weeks in England. I said, "Yes, / I'll take it." I got on this chairlift with this guy I didn't know. We / went halfway up the mountain without saying a word. Then he turned to me / and said, "You know, this is the first time I've gone skiing in ten / years." I said, "Why did you take such a long time off?" He said, "I / was in prison. Want to know why?" I said, "Not really. Well, you / better tell me why." He said, "I pushed a total stranger off a Ferris / wheel." I said, "I remember you." / --Steven Wright ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:24:37 -0000 From: "nick" Subject: open your mind not close your heart To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BC00B5.DDEFEBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable paddygav@kcnet.com said the following=20 No, I am the chap who turns the fuking television off when it doesn't = suit me. Furthermore, if you don't think that television influences the way people think, there is obviously no hope for you!=20 Hey what's your problem ?=20 Tina was was just exercising her right to her opinion why do you have to = be so aggressive ? If that's what being Christian is all about count me out !!! Nick FoX ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BC00B5.DDEFEBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable paddygav@kcnet.com� said the=20 following � � No, I am the chap who turns the fuking television off when it = doesn't=20 suit me. Furthermore, if you don't think that television influences = the=20 way people think, there is obviously no hope for you!� � Hey what's your problem = ?� Tina was was just = exercising her=20 right to her opinion why do you have to be so aggressive ? If that's what being = Christian is all=20 about count me out !!! � Nick=20 FoX � ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BC00B5.DDEFEBA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:02:20 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie Subject: Random 2 To: Gary Numan Well, I still havent got Random 2, but to the people who dislike it becasue it doesnt sound anything like the originals, thats's what remixes are all about. Its about taking certain parts of songs, taking some parts away, adding bits of your own, and creating a completely new take on it. In a way, its using the original track as the foundation for a completely new song.. To those of you who see techno as "boink boink" noises, then I guess you're all over 30 ! :) Andy -- http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~joekeith/mouthfull.html -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:28:48 +0000 From: Alan Ross Subject: Religion and on and on... To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello again. I've just come back from a fortnight (sorry, that's 2 weeks for denizens of the US) in Washington State and I was kinda hoping that the God thing would have blown over by now. Ho-hum. Personally, I don't know whether or not I believe in God, but I despise all organised religious cults (and I include christianity in that). I also don't accept that this is the forum for discussion of God/Religion, so if anyone wishes to continue on this theme, send personal e-mail, but I expect something on an intellectual level and no personal abuse (probably too much to hope for, I know). Anyway, on my second day in Seattle I found a copy of the NUMAN/DAWN CD (woo-hoo) at a Comic Convention and bought a DAWN book along with it. I have to say she challenges Jessica Rabbit for 'Top' Female Cartoon Character. Has anyone else out there read the Dawn comics? I would be grateful for info on which comics are in the book and which I still need to buy. Thanks in anticipation. I also got to see Dark City (OK, not brilliant, didn't bother with the soundtrack) and saw Exile on sale in a couple of places, so there seems to be some 'product' out there but no obvious promotion. I did get a bit fed up trying to explain who Gary Numan was every time I went out with an EXILE T on, tho. If there's anyone from Seattle out there, you should have gradients marked on your street maps... Finally, anyone interested in some sort of Quiz (just for fun, and my Nu-knowledge ain't brilliant so I probably won't challenge the more ardent fans)? If enough are interested, I'll give it a try. Alan Ross Edinburgh SCOTLAND PS Typical - I go to Seattle in March, Gary goes in May... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:36:27 -0800 (PST) From: david c carroll Subject: Seattle Update - Numan tour To: Gary Numan Mailing List This was recently posted to Usenet: From: Veronica Kirchoff Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:22:39 -0700 Newsgroups: alt.music.synthpop Subject: Gary Numan in Seattle for all you dark electro/80s fans... Gary Numan w/ Switchblade Symphony Friday, May 15, 1998 at The Fenix, Seattle, WA Tickets: $10 advance, available through Ticketmaster, or come by the Fenix Pool Hall to purchase them in person and avoid all service charges! THE FENIX 315 2nd Ave S Seattle, WA 98104 Info: 206.467.1111 located on the corner of 2nd & Jackson in Pioneer Square must be 21+ with valid ID == I replied asking if the info was up-to-date and when tickets are to go on sale, and this is the response I got: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:55:23 -0700 From: Veronica Kirchoff To: david c carroll Subject: Re: Gary Numan in Seattle yes, my info is current. we just confirmed it yesterday. when i saw that he was scheduled to play the Crocodile, i knew we (the Fenix) would be a much better room for him to play: more capacity, better sound, etc. plus, switchblade symphony ALWAYS plays here when they're in town. tickets should go on sale Monday at the latest. we're putting in the ticket order today, and it usually takes a few days to process. thanks for writing!! -Veronica == So there you go. -- dave ''' C-OO "big science. hallelujah" david c carroll \ Seattle, Washington, USA - tvc15@speakeasy.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:38:26 EST From: THOLTJR Subject: US tour To: numan@cs.uwp.edu HI everybody ! ~>8) First i have to say something about this religous conversation we seem to be having......Why? I thought we were Numanoids not Theoligists(spelt right?) So why cant we give it a rest? or should we start a Holy War to enforce our opinions on each other? I dont want to complain or moan about this anymore. Im just greatful that "WE" (as in Gary Numan fans) have a place to go since there are very few people on this planet that share this passion with gary the way that we do ... Well enough of that There is an important question or favor i have to ask of anyone in the going to the Seattle or San Francisco shows .......I NEED TWO TICKETS! i can go to one of the shows not both i will be more than happy to pay up front of course whoever can get me the tickets .and if there is anyone who will be passing through the Salt Lake City ,UTAH area i could use a ride but thats not all that important i can get there (wherever i end up going) well time to go if any one can get me the ticks e-Mail me at....tholtjr@aol.com best wishes to all. most of all Dale in austrailia who is one of the greastest people i have met. hi dale Thomas Holt tholtjr@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:35:07 -0700 From: Chris Devine Subject: US Tour To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Okay, I'm a dummy. I looked at the tour schedule, and, disgusted by my lack of funds and the lack of proximity to Phoenix of any of the shows to Phoenix, abandoned out-of-hand the idea of going to the show. But now, it looks like I may road-trip to LA, but I TRASHED my copy of the digest that had the tour schedule, and I CAN'T find it. So please, someone with a kind heart, tell me when the LA show is. Thanks! -Chris Devine, Lurker extraordinaire -- 'You're right, of course,' said Trefusis. 'I see that now. We need lawyers. Wave upon wave of them.' 'Well of course it's very easy to mock ...' 'It's certainly easy to mock some things,' agreed Trefusis. 'Oddly enough though I've never found it easy to mock anything of value. Only things that are tawdry and fatuous - perhaps it's just me.' -- Stephen Fry, _The Liar_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:55:19 -0800 From: Rich Godsil Subject: US Tour Sites To: "'numan@cs.uwp.edu'" Thanks for the info about the upcoming Gary Numan shows in the US. It's = been years since I saw him in concert in NYC at the Academy of Music=20 (1981-1982?) and I'd like to know what recent CDs are Gary's best (or = are there any newer CDs that he plays alot of music from)? I'm looking = forward to seeing Gary in Seattle this year and I can't believe how = small these venues are as compared to the earlier portion of his career. As referenced by several other messages, I hope that people drop the = commentary about God, politics, and reading too much into the lyrics.=20 I'm much more interested in hearing about shows seen and what songs were = played. I find it much more interesting to read about the Gary Numan = parties thrown in the San Francisco area and I'm surprised there's not = more references to trading tapes (concerts) and exchanging information = about upcoming shows and other artists similar to Gary's musical style. Rich ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************