Gary Numan Digest Sun, 2 Aug 98 Volume 1 : Issue 456 Today's Topics: Beggars reissues BLOTTO! Cheaper source for Boxed Set Dark Alliance DUH ! Dutch release "Zie 47472" Ever notice Fear Factory 'Obsolete' Gary Numan Gary Numan Digest V1 #455 (2 msgs) Homo-Yawn and Funny Homoerotica Homophobia , Homophilia Human available?? KCRW interview Material to be added on CD New releases on Cleopatra label New to the List NME Not so unusual releases Numan's drum gear? Numan Screensavers on Prophecy Website NuSubscriber... Remodulate stupid heads! TELEKON The image is Unusual ? releases (2 msgs) Where Are The Tracks? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:45:00 +0100 From: "MARSH, Phil" Subject: Beggars reissues To: "'Gary Numan'" From: "William Wilson" 1,What happened to the Viola track and one of the"ARP" tracks on "Remember I Was Vapour",they are completely missing(the same goes for"Joy Circuit",but I haven't identified exactly the instruments missing yet) RIWV sounds better on that middle bit to me - it always sounded way too high in the mix that gurgly synth sound - why its not there though, I have no idea! Hadn't noticed anything missing off Joy Circuit, happy to be proved wrong though. The sound quality is fantastic as someone posted earlier - you can really hear the bows scratch across the strings. 2,How can Beggars(UK end)get the lyrics WRONG!!!!,I mean,isn't it "I'm still frighten'd'd by the telephone" not "running from" as the booklet says for "I Die:You Die" Yeah, I thought that was odd - maybe its been Gary getting the words wrong all this time! ;-) >I notice a BIG!!! difference on >"I Die:You Die" but ...can't decide >whether this is down solely to the "Remastering" or it really is the >"Alternative" version It is the version on the promo vid for the single - its identical to that (albeit now in excellent sound quality). Different mix of the track, with alternative vocal take. Again, someone posted a while ago - the "tear meeee, tear meeee etc" line at the end of the chorus is the easiest way to spot it. There's more CR78 drum machine in the chorus as well. Perhaps we should compile a list of tracks and differences on these latest reissues - there do seem to be a few...sounds like an ideal item for the FAQ if it still exists! The sound quality and packaging on all 4 CDs (with the noble exception of the LO 78 sound quality, obviously!) is bloody excellent. Hats off to Steve Webbon and Co - now DON'T re-release them again! :-) One last thing - one of the CD booklets makes mention of recording sessions and some alternative versions of tracks being known about (TPP reissue?) ANY CHANCE OF ALTERNATIVE TAKES THEN, PLEASE MR W?! :-) Phil PS Oops, nearly forgot "Hi RRussell!" :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:08:54 PDT From: "Jenny Beck" Subject: BLOTTO! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu the story has to be true.. check out this funny short thingge i found:)))) at: http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~dug/kungfu.html go and see 4 your self... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:45:16 -0800 From: Derek Langsford Subject: Cheaper source for Boxed Set To: numan@cs.uwp.edu For those outside the UK looking for a reasonable source for the Boxed Set I might suggest Cheap or What CDs (formerly Pastel Blue) - an on-line UK store. They have it listed or #33.49. While postage brings it over #41, those outside the EEC do not have to pay the 17.5% VAT so that brings the price to #35.31 outside of Europe. That translates to about US$58 delivered to your door in the USA - hard to beat. EEC countries pay the VAT but have lower mailing costs. Non EEC European countries get lower postage as well as no VAT making the cost #31.31. While I already have the Boxed Set and paid $65 + sales tax for it, I have had very good service from Pastel Blue in the past with discs arriving about two weeks after orders are placed on-line. They are at http://www.cow.co.uk Derek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford "Numanews" San Diego, California, USA The Gary Numan Digest email numan-request@cs.uwp.edu to subscribe -----------------------------------------------------------------------------uwp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:23:32 EDT From: SomaCrow@aol.com Subject: Dark Alliance To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Don McCrum wrote: <> Quite amusing, innit? :-) No, it's entirely a coincidence. The amazon.com entry was for a book this Gary Webb has just put out. I found an article about the book in ... oh jeez what was it... the SF Bay Guardian or the Weekly or something here in the Bay Area (alerted to it by the lovely Miss Bianca)... I scanned part of the article, including a pic of this Gary Webb, and sent it 'round to my Numanoid buddies; if anyone wants to look at it I'd be happy to send it along. The newspaper I receive, the San Jose (Calif.) Mercury News, ran a series a couple years ago about the alleged link between the CIA and the contras, playing a role in trafficking crack cocaine into inner-city L.A. A government investigation ensued and the official report says there's no reason to believe the allegation is true; the Mercury News retracted the series. "Oops, we were wrong, sorry!" It caused quite a controversy... hurrah for yellow journalism (if it was yellow and not true...). :-) "You supply the pictures, I'll supply the war!" Remember: Crack is bad for you!! Love & napalm, Riana Now who was it that did that ancient song about (and titled) "Cocaine," maybe it was the Allman Brothers... or maybe I'm just on ... you guessed it... crack! (could be b/c it's 5:24 am...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:06:47 +0800 From: "Mark Winn" Subject: DUH ! To: "Numan Digest" Who was the bloody idiot who included all of a previous digest in a message to the digest #455 Whoever it was well done - try getting hold of a copy of 'email for dummies' I gave up trying to work out where the real digest started and finished so I never read most of it Cheers, Mark Winn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:56:46 -0700 From: Mark Stanton Subject: Dutch release "Zie 47472" To: "'Numan Digest'" Whenever I peruse the on-line CD retailers I keep coming across a release that has a title that looks more like a catalog number. It comes from Holland and it is entitled "Zie 47472". Does anyone know what this is? Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:17:28 -0500 (EST) From: Machman@netdirect.net Subject: Ever notice To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Is it just me, or has anyone else ever paid much attention to the fact that NME, as in the magazine, sounds like enemy when you say it!? Later, Mark A Hubbard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 15:59:16 +0100 From: "Barry Lynch" Subject: Fear Factory 'Obsolete' To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a look at a copy of the above in Virgin the other day and could = see no mention of 'Cars' or Gary Numan. Have they called the track by a different name, or is it not on the UK = release? Barry Lynch London Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a look at a copy of the above = in Virgin=20 the other day and could see no mention of 'Cars' or Gary = Numan. Have they called the track by a different name, or = is it not=20 on the UK release? Barry Lynch London ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:37:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Name withheld by request Subject: Gary Numan To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Greetings, I rarely get a chance to say much due to being busy, but this past weekend while I was searching for some good vinyl GN music.. (found "Gary Numan Exhibition" and "Berserker" ).. I found tons of the new releases of his music on cd. Of course I had to buy the album that made me a fan.. "Replicas". For the first time I have to say that a digitaly remastered album sounds GREAT! Long ago, I had woren my old tape of that album out so I've been pleased with this cd. If you don't have it yet.. I'd suggest it. Seeya Down in the Park.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:13:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Ronald Cole Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #455 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) William Wilson writes: >1,What happened to the Viola track and one of the"ARP" tracks on >"Remember I Was Vapour",they are completely missing(the same goes >for"Joy Circuit",but I haven't identified exactly the instruments >missing yet) This is among the first things I noticed when I bought the reissue a few days ago... the missing solo on RIWV is at 3:15 into the song. This smacks of a botched remixing from the 40-track rather than a remastering from the 2-track master.. The improved "headroom" was completely ruined by this lack of attention to detail. I sincerely hope BB goes back to fix this and offers to replace these "defective" discs. -- Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA 93556-1412 Ronald Cole Phone: (760) 499-9142 President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152 My PGP fingerprint: 15 6E C7 91 5F AF 17 C4 24 93 CB 6B EB 38 B5 E5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:24:04 EDT From: AScand7463@aol.com Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #455 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu >Hey wait a minute...I have a black sleeve 12" of Radio Heart that features >an extended mix of RH on the A-side and an instumental mix of RH on the >B-side! It doesn't even have Mistasax 1 or 2....It is the only version >i've seen... The one with the blue sleeve does indeed have Mistasax 2 on it. A-Side is Radio Heart extended mix, B-Side has Radio Heart Instrumental and Mistasax version 2. Catalog no is GFMR 109 as oppopsed to the black-covered version's GFNT 109. Antonio Noise Noise - http://members.aol.com/ascand7463/ANTONIO/Page2.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:33:25 +0100 From: Mark Pearson Subject: Homo-Yawn and Funny To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I have toned this down under advice from my mate Phil who felt the original draft was verging on the abusive so you will be able to tell how crazy this subject has got me. I come on here to read points of interest about Gary and his music, stuff like the messages left by Rod at Cleopatra yet I am finding I am becoming frustrated at seeing dumb subjects talked to death until they end up as unholy P*&%$Łg contests. I have been Gary fan for 20 years, love his music and most of the people who follow Gary that I have met but enough is enough. To all you boring, anal, pseudo-intellectuals who want to come on here and write mindless crap about homo-erotic lyrics SHUT THE HELL UP, PLEEEEAASSSEEEE. Ok, it might have been interesting for a day or two but enough is enough. There are some people in life who will try to intellectualise the label on a tin of beans. Please stop you're killing me, this is absolute agony. Derek, please have a word here, this has to stop before my head explodes!!!!!!!!!!! This is worse than the "Voicks" saga. Oh, it's "Vwa" by the way. That is the name of the syth sound and yes, as you all know, it's French. (Guffaw-Titter!!!!!!!!) Jesus, who came up with that as an important discussion point anyway? And as for all you self righteous defenders of gay rights who want to come on here and twist any innocent remark made in jest to imply some poor bastard is homophobic, GET A BLOODY LIFE AND GROW UP. You are the epitome of PC gone nuts. It's people like you who are wrecking the world. That's why bin men have to now be called Refuse Technicians, Manholes are Highway Access Covers etc. etc. yah-dee- yah-dee-yah!!!!! (Yeah, now give me a lecture about global warming and stuff) Oh, and by the way, the Blotto story, true or not, was BLOODY FUNNY. If those guys verbally attacked Gary in the way described in the story they deserved a hiding. I'm just amazed that Gary was the one to do it. I know Gary has a bit of a temper on him but I really never had him down as Rambo. Damned fine story and a lot more entertaining that this homo-yawn crap that some people want to bore the pants off people with. Bottom line is (Oops!!!! another homo-erotic reference) WHO BLOODY CARES? Homosexuality is as much a part of every day life as going to the dentist. It is no longer a novelty subject nor should it be. This kind of crap drives my gay friends crazy even more than me. They are normal well adjusted people who do not need some "Right-On" PC loser banging their drum for them. Oh well, that's that off my chest and I feel much better. I guess I can expect a tirade of abuse now in the next digest. Sorry, but the world seems to have had a sense of humour by-pass and it makes me nuts. Oh, and please don't even think about the "Oh, you must be homophobic too" bit. It will be entirely wasted on me. You know nothing about me or my background, trust me you would be stupid to assume anything. To all my wonderful friends out there of whatever persuasion, have a lovely day Y'all. Axeman. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:00:30 +0100 From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Homoerotica To: Gary Numan Michale Stembridge does a demolition job on the idea of homosexual or bisexual references in Gary's early lyrics. Well, I for one, have always thought that they were there. "Jo The Waiter" is a puzzle. "Just for now that's all I need". It sounds sarcastic the way he sings it. But then he retires to a back street flat with somebody or other. It's probably deliberately vague. Unless of course somebody out there has read or heard Gary's own explanation of the song. Gary is on record, and has written, that he used to go to gay clubs. Not, as I understand it, that he has any leanings that way, but that he used to wear make-up, etc., and he was ACCEPTED in those places, whereas he wasn't elsewhere. And what about the song "Praying To The Aliens". Listen to the words, and then tell me who, precisely, are the aliens. Yes, you'll say this is part of the novel he never finished, but at another level? Paddy Vickers ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jul 1998 08:29:44 +0000 From: Glenn.Bridges@asda.co.uk Subject: Homophobia , Homophilia To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Frankly , I wish I could find the whole homo discussion hilarious , but it has just become tedious. However (Flame on , guys and gals) Just as I have to accept (in actual fact completely support) the complete right to equal sexual freedom , for christ sake let me have my own preferences without being condemned for them. As a white , anglo-saxon , protestant heterosexual I am growing a little damn tired of being told I am in the wrong. I am allowed not to like homosexuality in exactly the same way I do not like rice pudding. Neither is morally wrong , but neither is to my liking. I positively avoid both. (Flame off) I would actually agree that early Numan lyrics had a homosexual leaning , but with no special emphasis given to it , and it certainly was not a central theme. The greatest message I received at an early age listening to his first albums was one of despairing isolation in a post apocalyptic future. Listening to Gary brought on a very self indulgent melancholy. Perfect for the angst ridden teenager. As for Gary in a fist fight!!! More likely that he will join the Three Tenors at the next World Cup. A huge thanks to everyone who offered help following the theft of my IRS albums. A thorough search at home has revealed that the anally retentive computer programmer came out in me , and I had two backup copies hidden away. But only on tape. So if anyone has Metal Rhythm or Outland on CD , I have cash waiting. And finally , a long technical question. Can I use a CD writer to record my own audio CDs? I now have a ten CD changer in the car , and would like to make a ten CD Numan compilation of my own choosing. For example , I would like to put together a 1 CD mix of my own favourites from Sacrifice and Exile. Or , as I suspect , can I only create digital CD-ROM , readable only by my computer? Thanks in advance for any help. Glenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:58:26 -0800 From: Pythoness Subject: Human available?? To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Oh dear. You know, I had no idea Human was the Unborn soundtrack. I've never seen the damn movie, and yet I know perfectly well I want the damn CD. I was looking the other way when it came out (I'm not always quite as focused on Numan as I've been the last few months; I've often wished there were eight or ten clones of me to devote full attention to my various fixations) and have more or less assumed it was another in the interminable series of reissues. Does anyone know of anywhere I can get my sweaty but well-formed hands on a copy?? My usual online sources seem to have let me down at this advanced date. :-( zg Ziggy Blum Ziggy's House O' Vermin zigi@ravenland.com --------------------------- What I don't know about myself would fill terabytes. --G. Findelstein ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:19:29 -0800 From: alec way Subject: KCRW interview To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Erm... http://www.liveconcerts.com/listening/kcrw/980519/gary_numan Best, Alec ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:23:59 +0200 From: DE VISSCHER Luc Subject: Material to be added on CD To: numan@cs.uwp.edu What about the obscure remix (American I think) of "My world storm"? I don't know by heart who remixed it, but it is simply the best remix put on a 12" vinyl record of any GN material. Would IRS do it IF they ever decide to re-release GN material? I don't even know if the 12" was released by IRS. But I put it on a tape amongst tracks of other artists, and people came to me to ask if that song was really by Numan... Best regards, Luc DE VISSCHER BRIDGESTONE/FIRESTONE EUROPE luc.devisscher@bfeurope.com TEL +32.2.714.68.15 FAX +32.2.714.68.19 GSM +32.75.680.560 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:16:47 EDT From: Lizard4663@aol.com Subject: New releases on Cleopatra label To: numan@cs.uwp.edu According to "Ice" 3 releases are due out in August. August 4-Remodulate-The Gary Numan Chronicles, August 11-Sacrifice, and August 25-Live Dark Light. Liz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:27:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindsay Caudill Subject: New to the List To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello all! I just joined the Numan list today and am glad to be a part of it! Um, let's see what I can share with you! I am a 19 year old college junior majoring in music prodcution and performance. I have been a singer since I could talk and I want to be both behind the music as in front on stage. I sing off and on in my town, but nothing to get me "noticed." I sing mostly Fleetwood Mac and Paula Cole cause they are in my LOW voice range. I own a collection of over 400 CD's, 400 tapes, 200 + singles, and little vinyl. I listen to ALL types of music and listing all the faves would take days and days, but I will list a few for you here that I listen to the most to clue you in on a little about me. I grew up in the 80's, so I love all 80's music...I can remember singing "Cars" when I was small for my family ;) I LOVE INXS!! So, when the lead singer, Michael Hutchence killed himself allegedly on November 22, 1997, I lost a part of myself-my youth, my musical inspiration, etc. I am a true fan of Culture Club! Boy George was my first crush, course that was left hanging in the balance when I grew up to realize he doesn't like girls, therefore he wouldn't like me. I have the reunion Storytellers of Culture Club recorded and watch it almost every night... That is how I relax-get on the net, listen to the radio, or put in a video. I also love the Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Van Halen, Janis Joplin, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Crosby, Stills, and Nash, Neil Young, Crowded House, Matchbox 20, etc.. The only way to list them all would be for you to mail me and ask me if I like an artist, to which I reply back my answer. I am caucasian, 5'1", 132 pounds, brown hair, green eyes-there for the physical description, as if one was needed. I love Silver Jewelry and I am always having my net friends on the lookout for stores, etc... I am a big VH-1 watcher cause I am so tired of the drivel on MTV. Still, I must admit that I am a sucker for the Real World reruns, Daria, and the new sock puppet show, Sifl and Olly. I am also a sucker for stand-up comedy, Comedy Central, and South Park. You can find me at other places on the net like the INXS message boards, Culture Club boards, my divison of the Ingo Rademacher fan Club, Sam Kinison sites, etc....If you would like the exact links to some of these, feel free to mail me and ask. I was a Miami Vice kid growing up, so I love Nash Bridges and Don Johnson, which you can also mail me about. I hope this gives you some insight on me...Now, I want to know all about all of you! Thanks for reading this first message of mine, I hope to get to know all of the list a little better! Lindsay tygerlily_19@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:36:54 -0400 From: Matthew Roberts Subject: NME To: Gary Numan Strange. Very strange. As Rob has pointed out on "Are 'Friends' Electric?= ", there is a colour advert for Gary's Shepherd's Bush Show in the NME. Now even the most pessemistic Numanoid would admit that 1 show in the UK with a 2000 capacity for the whole of 1998 is going to sell out. Even if Gary tried to keep the show a complete secret, it would probably sell out= =2E So why pay for the advert (NME didn't stick it in out of the goodness of their hearts!). Could it be part of the overall hype? Is somebody prepared to throw some money after Gary at last? Kind of like Supermarkets selling baked beans f= or 3p? This could be very good news. Then again, maybe somebody at Eagle jus= t messed up big time. Joey Lindstrom said that The Unborn was rubbish compared to Dark City. I have to agree that The Unborn is tripe. However, Dark City recently becam= e the ONLY film I have ever walked out of a cinema during... it was SO bori= ng (and derivative and non-sensical and trite). Still, I am enormously grateful to the makers. It was a wonderful experience and I look forward = to walking out of many more films in the future. For what it's worth, Gary didn't deliberately get his right ear pierced. It's just the way he sat when the person was doing it. I doubt he even kn= ew the homosexual connotation (I don't think many straight people do). Matthew Roberts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:09:42 -0800 From: Derek Langsford Subject: Not so unusual releases To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Curtis A Gibson < wrote: >Greetings, > >I was browsing some Online CD shops and saw references to some Numan >Discs that I couldn't get much info on. I didn't see them listed on the >World Wide Webb Either, so I thought I'd ask the list at large. The >one's I'm most curious about are: >Black Heart Another of the infamous Receiver Records compilations - Gary has asked people not to buy them as they are abusing the spirit fthe contract Numan signed with them. There's nothing new here if you have all the Numa CDs. >Numan Dawn This is Sacrifice (regular version) but with artwork by Joseph Linsner of Sirius Comics of his Dawn character. >Time to Die This is a disc from the 3 CD boxed set from Receiver - The Story So Far. Again complete rehash so don't bother. Get the boxed set instead and you'll have virtually all the Receiver compilations covered. Receiver were contracted to release 3 CDs. But they didn't stop. So far they and their associate labels have issued: The Other Side of Gary Numan Here I Am The Story So Far - The Sleeproom - Time to Die - My Dying Machine The Best of Gary Numan 1984-93 Archive Volume 1 Archive volume 2 Black Heart Amazing how 3 CDs have become 9. And they all are selected from a total of some 45 tracks, most of which are now available in remastered form in the Boxed Set. Hope this helps, Derek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford "Numanews" San Diego, California, USA The Gary Numan Digest email numan-request@cs.uwp.edu to subscribe ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:43:06 -0700 From: Gregor Torrence Subject: Numan's drum gear? To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) > Anyone have a good history of the various drum machines Numan has > incorperated through the years(up to and including Exile)? If your not a gearhead, you'll want to skip over this article... Most early songs are a Roland Compurhythm CR78. This includes songs like Remember I Was Vapour. It has an endearing sleazy home organ sound. Much of the synthetic drums heard on the Pleasure Principal are synth sounds or a Synare, which is an the electronic drum you can watch Rrussell Bell play in the Touring Principle video. Songs on Dance the CR78, or use a Linn Drum machine as in Night Talk. The same units show up on I Assassin and Warriors. Beserker and The Fury have lots of custom PPG drum samples. There is also a slight hint of a Roland 707, of my least favorite drum machines of all time. Note that Beserker was the last album made with a real drummer on it. (Except one hi-hat part on Strange Charm.) Strange charm has a lot of Yamaha RX5 or RX15, or some similar unit. Plus there's a whole lot of custom drum samples. Metal Rhythm use lots and lots of samples and the drum sounds of a Roland D110 mutlitimbral keyboard. Then we get to the dark years. Outland and Machine + Soul are chock full of the drum sounds of the Korg M1 keyboard. Easily the muddiest sounding keyboard ever made. (I think that if gary ditched that keyboard and bought a top notch vocal mic, we'd never complain about fidelity ever again.) With sacrifice he started using drum loop samples. This is where you buy a CD full of premade bars of drum patterns, load them into your sampler. He tends to take loops that were recorded about 120BPM and slow them down to around 100BPM or less. This gives them that huge and dark sound. He's also prone to layering two or more drum beats. The most common snare sound in these loops happens to be old EMU Drumulator snare -- A terrific classic sound that can also be heard in Garbage's "No. 1 Crush." (In fact, if you have a set of drumulator samples, we need to do some trading...) If you're looking to replicate a Numan drum sound, get your mits on a CompuRhythm sound set. You'll be singing a chorus of On Broadway in no time. The rest of the of Gary's great percussion tracks come more from his and his engineer's talents than the equipment itself. Gregor. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 21:03:54 +0200 From: "joeri" Subject: Numan Screensavers on Prophecy Website To: "Gary Numan" Hi, You can download 3 Numan-screensavers (for windows'95 or'98) on 'Prophecy The Gary Numan Website from Belgium'. 1. A Random Picture screensaver 2. A Telekon Screensaver 3. A Dark Numan Screensaver Just click on this adress: http://home.planetinternet.be/~joeri/prophecy.html (click Random in left frame) Site is still a bit under construction so sorry for that. Just got Numa Years, I like it very much! Thanks to everyone for putting it all together.(the layout and booklet is great!) I hope one day 'Dream Corrosion' will be remixed and remastered because I love it so much and the original really sounds like SHIT. Is there any news for a LIVE CD from the Exile tour? Should be a real hit if mixed right, harder guitar, harder drums (I love Richards sound sooooo much) I'm going to London on September 12th to see Numan live again. If you want a talk you can see pictures of me at the 'prophecy' site. ('pictures' left frame). You can spot me by the self made 'prophecy' T-shirt. Joeri Peeters Belgium. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:00:23 -0400 From: "D&T WHEELER" Subject: NuSubscriber... To: "Numan Digest" Hi. I'm Nu to the Digest. I'm Tim. And I have about 1,000 questions concerning Gary (mostly about his lyrics). I've been a Numan fan since I first heard "Cars" in 79 or 80. I'd never seen him live until May 6, '98 in Pittsburgh PA. What a night - and it only took 19 years to get here!!! har har I read Gary said we didn't deserve the encore - talk about New Anger in a group of long time fans!!! Maybe we were 'subdued' because of our aging bodies - not all of us are capable of His energy, and He did have a lot of it on stage that night! It was great! 'Questions, always questions....' I'll try not to ask too much, but I'm so excited to maybe finally get some answers! Does anyone know what He meant by the line in "We take mystery", 'Confiscate letters like D.E.B.'? Why does the Pleasure Principle Album (Vinyl, USA) have the extra lines in the lyrics for "Cars"? Did anyone else see Gary on Saturday Night Live, circa '79-'80? If so, do you know if this live performance of "I'm praying to the aliens" and "Cars" is on one of the SNL videos that have been released? Which volume? Is the 12" version of "We take mystery (to bed)" with the extra verse in the middle, on any current (or soon to be released) CD? My vinyl is in sad shape... so sad I think it's out of tears!!! And I managed to wear out my only cassette tape copy made when it was new. I have a large portion of all releases (from vinyl to cassette to CD) of Numan stuff, but I am thrilled to see BB and Cleo releasing some of the "extras" I missed (bonus tracks, etc.). I still don't have a piano version of "Down in the park". How was it? Worth buying the umpteenth 'Collection' CD to get it?? 'I've come to you to be saved' Tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:17:38 +0100 From: Tom Gorham Subject: Remodulate To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) Strange that 'New Thing from London Town' managed to make an appearance in this compilation, since it's almost universally acknowledged as total shite. Still, it's better than 'London Times', I suppose. Music aside, I know a lot of people quite rightly criticise Gary over dodgy artwork, but the cover of 'London Times' was quite the ugliest thing associated with Gary Numan since Cedric Sharpley. I do, however, love 'Radio Heart', which instantly devalues any criticisms I might make. Tom Gorham Editor Your Business 21b Blacket Place Edinburgh EH9 1RJ http://www.ybmag.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:19:21 PDT From: "Jenny Beck" Subject: stupid heads! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu recently i went to newbury comics to get some NUMAN* hehe and these 2 girls came up to me all giddy and excited.. and said "like,,, which one do you think we should get? giggle giggle"> and they had a dee-lite and josh wink cd... i said i havent heard dee-lite latest stuff.. but i heard josh wink.. and it's ok... but i think you should get gary numan... did you ever hear of him??? and they continued giggling... for some unknown reason.. i think it was a reflex for them or something ??? .... and they said""yeah hehehe i heard of him""" so i said why dont you get one of his cd's.. and they said "" umm.. heheh i dont feel like it"""" i was like HU!??? i told them ab gary quickly... how he uses syths.. and is a big influnce to a lot of up and coming electronic bands.. such as josh wink... and they kept giilgling and i think completly ignored what i said.... so then they said " okay it's almost even so far 5 for dee lite 6 for josh wink.. lets ask another person.. giggle giggle"" so i walk away/// shaking my head and rolling my eyes... and watched them giggle all the way to the cash register and then out the door. whatTTA Bunch- a' stupid heads!! heheheheeheeh-ehehahahahahahahhahahaahah THEIR LOSE! Jenny. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 10:07:12 -0500 From: paddygav@kcnet.com (Paddy) Subject: TELEKON To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I just got my reissue of Telekon, and what a treat is is! My first time for "Sleep By windows" and the Satie piece. This was my first Numan LP (on 8-track!), and I had forgotten what a truly great one it is. I seem to remember someone mentioning that they could recognize any difference in the alternate version (or was it the US version?) of "I Die" .. Anyway, I think this version is a little harder edged, and the mix is considerably different. Was this the original single released before Telekon came out? I have always been sort of surprised that "I Die" never cought on in the US, but I guess people were busy buying Hall and Oats, Olivia Newton John, and Pink Floyd records to worry about anything like Numan. Also, why was it that "We are Glass" was never issued here in the States? Furthermore, was "Complex" ever released in the US? Looking forward to the Dance re-ish, should it happen! I'm living in a country that picked VHS over Beta, RCA over Columbia color, and Windows over Mac. Where's the sanity?. http://www.kcnet.com/~paddygav/images.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:39:46 +0200 From: DE VISSCHER Luc Subject: The image is To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi, it's me again, sorry to have attached all Digest 455 in my previous mail, just forgot to erase it. > (though in Gary's case, some > of his best songs were B-sides like The Image is, We take mystery > (early), Face to face,...). Many moons ago, I interviewed Gary. It was around the time of The Fury.....anyway....we were chatting along nicely when I asked him what his favorite track of his was. (Not the most inspired question, but hey! I was young :-D) to which he replied "The one that's currently making me money....what's yours?" I said "The Image is"....he looked blank and said "What's that then? I don't know that one?" Mortified!!!! this is STILL my favorite gaz track.....(blue eyes coming a close second) But I just couldn't believe he'd forget such a wonderful track! Well indeed, "The Image Is" is one of my absolute favorites! (We sleep with machines that breath, and some even have names the executive's dream; We're all so sincere, we'll sing a song from the film that broke your heart. Oh look at the smile that cracks, tomorrow we'll be civilized and burn the whole world down.) is indeed very good of lyrics... When I spoke to Gary last March in Brussels, I told him one of my other favorite tracks is "Slowcar to China". He looked a t me surprisingly mentioning I must have been the only one together with himself who really liked that track. I was a bit proud of that. Maybe for the next UK tour, Gary can have a questionnaire sent to the fans asking which songs they would love to see live. Well, to name a few: The Image Is Slowcar to China Engineers (!!!!!!!!!!) The 1930's rust Face to face Voices Best regards, Luc DE VISSCHER BRIDGESTONE/FIRESTONE EUROPE luc.devisscher@bfeurope.com TEL +32.2.714.68.15 FAX +32.2.714.68.19 GSM +32.75.680.560 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:24:57 -0700 From: Gregor Torrence Subject: Unusual ? releases To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) > Curtis A Gibson wrote: >I was browsing some Online CD shops and saw references to some Numan >Discs that I couldn't get much info on. I didn't see them listed on the >World Wide Webb Either, so I thought I'd ask the list at large. The >one's I'm most curious about are: >Black Heart Useless and expensive French import, recently made available by domestic US release. "Black Heart" is a track from "Human." >Numan Dawn Sacrifice with jet-screamin' hooty queen on the cover. >Time to Die Disc number three of "The Story so Far" three CD set. The other two discs are individually available as "My Dying Machine" and "The Sleeproom" I'd give all three discs a thumbs down for all but the most rabid collector. You're better off speding your greenbacks on the things actually from Beggars, Numan, Cleopatra and Eagle. I know because I have all three of the discs in question. Gregor. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:17:29 +0100 From: Tom Gorham Subject: Unusual ? releases To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) >Black Heart >Time to Die >Are these compilations or unusual original releases or what? >Thanks >-Mhoram The only strange thing about these releases is that anyone buys them. Tom Gorham Editor Your Business 21b Blacket Place Edinburgh EH9 1RJ http://www.ybmag.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:08:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Ruiz Subject: Where Are The Tracks? To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hey all, There's been a lot of talk, these past Digests, about all the recent re-issuses, and *bonus* tracks, etc, I'm sure you're all aware. I'm getting tired of having to purchase compilation, after compilation to get maybe the ONE song, or version I didn't have before. Yet I do, because what else can a person do, right? Anyway, I have a "Dream CD" in mind, of a single CD I'd like to see, consisting of (most, if not all) the missing pieces, all on ONE new disc. Here are my ideas for the tracks: Gary Numan - The Dream CD Music For Chameleons - 12" Extended Version White Boys And Heros - Atco promo US 12" Remix My Dying Machine - Italian 12" Remix My Dying Machine - Instrumental Remix New Thing From London Town - 12" Extended Radio Heart - Extended All Across The Nation - Extended London Times - Extended My World Storm - Rockers Uptown Remix My World Storm - Instrumental Mix Are "Friends" Electric? - Renegade Soundwave '91 Mix Are "Friends" Electric? - '91 Mix Instrumental Well, that's my Dream CD...a lot of the missing (as yet on CD) tracks, all on ONE disc. Now, granted I know that we can expect My Dying Machine Italian soon, as well as New Thing Ext, on that "Remodulate" compilation. My point being I'd rather see these tracks on a disc along side OTHER missing tracks, rather than as *bonus* tracks on yet ANOTHER compilation. $$ Also, there's supposedly a CD of ALL the Radio Heart material, though in past Digests it's been claimed there's some hold up with the release. I know London Times has ben released on the compilation Here I Am (always thought that should be HERE AM I, like the song) Again, I'd rather see it here, and it would be cool to have all 3 Radio Heart songs on one disc. Might also add Like A Refugee (I Won't Cry) if it would fit. If I really wanted to get Technical, I'd also add to the track listing FULL versions of the stuff on Images11, just to sweeten the deal. I understand that a CD as I've described would be virtually impossible, if, for no other reason, the songs are from several different labels, etc etc. Also, I feel that filling in the gaps in one fell swoop would give the current Numan labels less chance to make $$ releasing and rereleasing compilation after compilation, with a few of these tracks as a *bonus* Talk about MILKING?? Well, a guy can dream..... Ciao all, Jay p.s. IF Beggars Banquet, or anyone else, released the PHOTOGRAPH Best Of on disc, say...with original cover art, would anyone BUY it? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************