Gary Numan Digest Thu, 22 Oct 98 Volume 1 : Issue 479 Today's Topics: <none> A Chance introduction..... Cleo's missed opportunity exile extended first GN song Gary Numan Digest V1 #473 Gary Numan Digest V1 #478 maybe anti-lock brakes would have helped stopping power New Numan mailing list member Roche Roche 5 Sorry everyone, looking for "Ben49"! that compilation I mentioned last Dige ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:27:51 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: <none> To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Is anyone having trouble accessing the World Wide Webb? The main reason I go there is to read past digests. Is there any other source of getting past digests? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- They crawl out of their holes for me...... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:04:51 +0000 From: "ade" <ade-p@dircon.co.uk> Subject: A Chance introduction..... To: numan@cs.uwp.edu As an eleven year old....in 1979, I was more interested in action men and soldiers than Music...so when I found myself browsing around "woolworths" with a fifty pence voucher looking to buy an accessory for the aforementioned toy...I could not imagine that it was the moment that was to change my life. For on the way to the toy counter I passed the record shelves, and on the bottom shelf (at eye level for a four foot boy)... I saw a picture that just held my attention.....The 7" picture cover to DOWN IN THE PARK...I had never baught a record before, but I just knew I'd like it, just by the way he looked in that picture..... That was 19 years ago...since then I've baught every record available in every version on every format, followed every UK tour.... it has become my religion. There has been alot of talk on the digest about ranking favourite Numan albums, and indeed I too have my albums that are really anthems to me...but I feel its not a case of what good and whats not.....but what each album means to each individual. Warriors is by far my "favourite" numan album, but this is not based on his musical ability and composition, but it was on the Warriors tour when I first met Gary, as a fifteen year impressionable old fan.... The Fury and such like may get a slating from some areas, but it was still an awful lot better than any other artisits that were out in the backend of 85, and Berserker/Exhibition Tours of that time were some of the finest "shows" in his 20 years. "picture the man when the heartbeat stops..." ade-p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:47:17 -0800 From: Derek Langsford <dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> Subject: Cleo's missed opportunity To: numan@cs.uwp.edu In Issue #478 Benjamin Iglar-Mobley <iglarmobley@earthlink.net> wrote: >What was the thinking behind reissuing "White Noise" and "Dark Light"? >If they had given the first one the "Living Ornaments" treatment BB gave >their reissues-- releasing the entire concert instead of just the >excerpts we'd previously heard-- that one at least would have made >sense. But otherwise, how huge a market were they expecting for his >lives? Didn't most of us already have them? >They should have taken their resources for those planned reissues and >put them behind a new "live" from one of his US shows, and touted it as >his "return to the US." Now THAT would have outsold both those other >albums combined. If I remember correctly White Noise and Dark Light included the whole recorded shows. There were no other tracks played on the nights in question. Also, Cleopatra do not have Gary's tapes, they are just taking already issued material and copying it over for their releases. They are working independantly of Eagle. I assume Cleopatra are trying to get product out quickly without having to do a lot of mixing/mastering/new artwork. By taking already released material from the UK and having Rod Reynolds create artwork from various preexisting sources, they are able to issue these albums fairly quickly. White Noise was probably scheduled before Gary's US tour was confirmed. I assume Cleo are trying to attract new fans as well as sell to the established fans. I doubt they think they are going to sell complete rehashes to fans who have UK editions, but by adding new-to-CD bonus tracks to the album CDs, they are picking up sales to US fans with the UK editions. Althoughh it would be nice to have all the bonus tracks on one CD, that doesn't make sense from a sales perspective. Remember Cleoaptra are a business, not a charity for Gary Numan fans. I don't know why they are not issuing the US Exile TOur on CD/video. Maybe its the Marilyn Manson problem. Heard a snitch of his new album and it wasn't bad. >Some of the other artists on it are: Dead Or Alive, Information Society, >Spahn Ranch, Gene Loves Jezebel, Bow Wow Wow, Kraftwelt, Heaven 17, 808 >State, and Keoki. Its catalog number is ALW 0008-2. These are all Cleopatra stable artists, so I assume the label is a subsidiary of Cleo. Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Langsford Ph.D. Environmental Management Specialist County of San Diego, Dept. of Planning and Land Use 5201 Ruffin Road, Ste. B San Diego, CA 92123 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:18:54 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: exile extended To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Apparently Exile extended will only be available through ordering it from NuWorld. The thing is, I don't have a credit card and I have a nasty feeling they only take credit card as payment. Does anyone know about this? If so, is there any other way I can get it without a credit card? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- They crawl out of their holes for me...... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:26:39 GMT From: "Michale Stembridge" <x1969x@hotmail.com> Subject: first GN song To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Cars... Bought the 7 inch and discovered Metal, which I liked even more. Michale ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:51:52 EDT From: TELEKON@aol.com Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #473 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu NUMANS MUSIC WAS THE BEST BY FAR IN THE 80'S -- I MEAN WHAT CAN U SAY ABOUT TELEKON , THE FURY , AND THE PLEASURE PRINCIPLE - I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE HAVING THE BALLS TO SAY THIS EXILE HAS SOME GOOD TRACKS BUT IT NEEDS FIRE LIKE TELEKON!! ANYWAY MY QUESTION - IS THERE ANY PLAINS TO RERELESE SHARPE AND NUMAN?\ CHUCK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:15:52 +0100 From: Dan <dan@dylan.org> Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #478 To: "Gary Numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> >From: "D&T WHEELER" <DWHEELER@pathway.net> >What was the first song you ever heard of GN, and why did it get you >hooked??? I clearly remember the SNL performance. Although I didn't enjoy the music of "I'm Praying ..." as much as the lyrics, I thought "Cars" was a blast. I remember how people I knew were freaked out by the music and style. Strange how times change, eh? Does anyone know the date of this show? I think I was sold on Numan when I first heard, "Down in the Park." Before then I just liked his music. But this song awakened me to much potential in music -- scene-setting, cool lyrics (vice the Carpenters-like banality that was common then), and over-driven analog synthesizers. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:38:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael R. Ward" <mrward@mailbox.syr.edu> Subject: maybe anti-lock brakes would have helped stopping power To: numan digest <numan@cs.uwp.edu> >The worst single releases? I was never a fan of 'This Wreckage', but the >all time worst must have been 'I Can't Stop', the title of which would >more accurately have been 'I should Stop' boy do i agree with tom on this one. this song annoys me more than anything gary has ever done (oh wait i take that back there is 1999 and you got the look....2000 0 0 party over oops out of time.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:23:04 -0700 (PDT) From: nanci thomas <callisto_6@yahoo.com> Subject: New Numan mailing list member To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Greetings! I just recently was signed up for this so consider this my self introduction. I am 41 and live in Illinois. I have been a Gary Numan fan for 20 years. The first time I saw or heard him was on an episode of Saturday Night Live. He sang Cars, and I was hooked. It hasn't been easy to collect his C.D.s, but I keep hanging in there. I like a wide variety of music but Numan is really the only artist I can say I have consistly liked over the years. The man can't write a bad song. A while back, during the Exile tour, he played in Chicago and I was unable to attend. This will go down on my top ten list of Big Life Regrets, I have no doubt. A friend of mine was able to go and even spoke with Gary and Gemma after the show. He said they were extremely nice and talked with everyone for more than an hour, and even posed for pictures and signed autographs. My friend was able to get me a signed program and a t-shirt, which I shall cherish. Anyway, I'm glad to be on the list, and look forward to hearing any news that can be shared. Take care! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:42:59 -0600 From: "Joey Lindstrom" <joey@lindstrom.com> Subject: Roche To: "Gary Numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> On Sun, 18 Oct 98 01:00:02 CDT, D&T Wheeler wrote: >Question, what does "roche" mean???? As in > MORE ROCHE FIVE THAN PAIN I dunno what Gary had in mind, but Dave Roche plays left wing for the Calgary Flames hockey club. :-) / From Joey Lindstrom joey@lindstrom.com / Interocitor Dot Net http://www.interocitor.net / / Rush Limbaugh's Updated 35 UNDENIABLE TRUTHS / / NUMBER 12 / / Condoms only work during the school year. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:44:51 -0500 From: Scott Gibbons <nomusic@midwest.idsonline.com> Subject: Roche 5 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu >Question, what does "roche" mean???? As in > MORE ROCHE FIVE THAN PAIN I heard a LONG time ago that Roche is a company that makes anti-depressants and other pharmaseudicals. Did I spell that right? >nothing from Dance would really have made a good single! I thought She's Got Claws was a pretty decent choice. AWFUL video though, ugh. The We Take Mystery to Bed video was an AMAZING follow up though, just spellbinding. I used to hear that tune on the radio in Dallas TX when I was growing up - - go figure that one out! - Scott -------------------- Scott Gibbons nomusic@mw.idsonline.com ADAM &-THE ANTZ <http://nomusic.interspeed.net/ants> LILITH <http://nomusic.interspeed.net> ORBITRONIK <http://nomusic.interspeed.net/orbitronik> STRAWBERRY <http://nomusic.interspeed.net/strawberry> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:44:51 -0500 From: Scott Gibbons <nomusic@midwest.idsonline.com> Subject: Sorry everyone, looking for "Ben49"! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Ben 49, please drop me another line! I tried several times replying to your email re: Coil but Webtv keeps returning the msg to me as "undeliverable." I think the email address I tried was just ben49@webtv.net, although when it came back to me it read "ben49@postoffice7.bryant.webtv.net...." I'm very sorry to have bothered everyone else with this. - Scott -------------------- Scott Gibbons nomusic@mw.idsonline.com ADAM &-THE ANTZ <http://nomusic.interspeed.net/ants> LILITH <http://nomusic.interspeed.net> ORBITRONIK <http://nomusic.interspeed.net/orbitronik> STRAWBERRY <http://nomusic.interspeed.net/strawberry> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:42:29 -0500 From: Valerie Iglar-Mobley <iglarmobley@earthlink.net> Subject: that compilation I mentioned last Dige To: The Gary Digest <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Dear all, There's an ad for "The World's Greatest Club Collection" in the current issue of the free Tower Records magazine, Pulse! It's on page 18, with a reproduction of the cover you can check out, if you thought I was lying about his big, bad, Berserker image. lots of love, Benjiman Iglar-Mobley ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************