Gary Numan Digest Thu, 29 Oct 98 Volume 1 : Issue 481 Today's Topics: <none> ASYLUM 1 CD for sale !!! At last Bombers Bombers..the B sides Bombers/Nick Biggar Cd's and video's Gary you lazy bastard Getting old records Hi IMAGES: PRESENT & PAST interesting find---- new Email address Numan/Nicholson Numan Poll (2 msgs) poll Remind Me... Sharpe & Numan - reissue question Smile/Glass intros the touring principle This Wreckage Valium..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:41:38 -0400 From: pnathan@entelchile.net (PATRICIO ARIEL NATHAN ALTMANN) Subject: <none> To: <numan@cs.uwp.edu> from : patricio nathan fax in chile : ( 5 6 2 ) 7 7 7 3 6 7 4 santiago - chile dear fans , how are you , here in chile i“m doing fine , now this e - mail it“s in request of the following ; i need to know who sells an original pal video from gary numan : " micro music " ( live at wembley ) , please let me know contact , e - mail , price including postage and packing by register air - mail to my country , etc .. in advance thank“s for all and i hope to hear good news from you as soon as possible considering i love gary“s music , i live too far from where evrything happens and that this is one of the only items i don“t have from his collection , sincerely . patricio nathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:36:47 EST From: Webst@aol.com Subject: ASYLUM 1 CD for sale !!! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu A Hello to all NUMANOIDS ! I want to sell an interesting item from my duplicate GARY NUMAN collection= : ASYLUM 1 CD Box (4 CDs) Japanese only from 1990 very rare and long deleted stunning item, incl.: the 4 complete LPs The Pl= an, Tubeway Army, Replicas, Pleasure Principle + over 30 extra tracks !!! with two large nice booklets including comments in Japanese, all lyrics in Japanese and English + a lot of unreleased pictures. Condition: mint + (never played !!). DM 200,-- or =A3 70 or $ 120 If you are interested please don=B4t hesitate to Email me ! Best wishes from Germany STEFAN WEBER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:26:26 +0000 From: tina freeman <tina.freeman@virgin.net> Subject: At last To: numan@cs.uwp.edu At last you can listen to all the Images albums ( recorded Autobiog ) in comfort because I have just uploaded the last album onto my site. I hope you all have many many many many many happy hours listening to how Gary Numan has changed over the years , it makes very interesting listening. http://www.principle.simplenet.com The Pleasure Principle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:38:47 +0800 From: Jean Burgess <Jeanb@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au> Subject: Bombers To: Gary Numan <numan@cs.uwp.edu> In response to Nick > > Can anyone out there explain why there were two pressings of the single > Bombers. I have one copy with just Blue Eyes on the B side but the label > does say Blue Eyes and OD Receiver. My second copy has both songs on the > B side??? I have a double pack which has the tracks 'That's Too Bad', 'OD Receiver', 'Blue eyes' and 'Oh didn't I say' and 'Bombers' (if memory serves), maybe it was released to be part of the double pack and as a separate single. I think that was when Gary was calling himself Valarian, or flowering herb (I think people may have already discussed this, I haven't read the diges for a while, so excuse any repetition). "oh didn't i say i'm not one of you?" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:13:04 +0000 From: "ade" <ade-p@dircon.co.uk> Subject: Bombers..the B sides To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Nick.... A little strange.... what catalogue number has it? Is it in the same picture cover as normal? As far as I know it goes... Beg 5 "thats too bad"/oh didn't i say. Beg 8 "bombers/blue eyes O.D. receiver. Back2 (beg5 + Beg 8- double single pack) ttb/odis/bom/be/odr. I had a look through all my record dicography's and white label promo stuff, cant find a reference to your copy....a rarity...or a dodgy bootleg or more than likely I've missed some thing...do you want to sell it ?????? Sorry...... no help. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:02:56 +0000 From: kevin Goodchild <Kevin.goodchild@virgin.net> Subject: Bombers/Nick Biggar To: numan digest <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Nick, I have a copy of the double pack of That's Too Bad/Bombers with gatefold sleeve and both singles (back 2) released shortly after AFE this has the Bombers disc in it with the missing track( is this the same one?). It's a simple question of a mis press 7", I haven't any idea of how many slipped the net but worth something around £10/£15 to the collectors Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:17:52 -0800 (PST) From: nanci thomas <callisto_6@yahoo.com> Subject: Cd's and video's To: gary net news numan <numan@cs.uwp.edu> So, the other day I visited my local Best Buy. I regularly check the "N" section looking for Numan C.D.'s. It's just a little way I punish myself because they never, ever, have any. Imagine my stunned surprise to see an entire wedge of Gary Numan c.d's!!! The only explanation, I feel, is some type of rare planetary alignment. You'd have to understand the obscurity that is Gary Numan in downstate Illinois. I've looked and looked, everywhere for c.d's forever ("it must have been years"). Needless to say, in case it doesn't last, I whipped out the Visa, made short work of the wedge, and left, insufferably pleased with myself. I just wanted to share this little triumph with people who could possibly relate to it. Now, I'm new to the digest, and this has probably already been covered, but can anyone tell me how to obtain a copy of his autobiography? I've checked regularly with book stores and they claim they can't even order it. And one other thing; the only video I have ever seen is "Cars". Through this digest, I gather he has made several others. Can anyone tell me if these are available as a collection on tape, or how else I could view them? Thanks for your help! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:28:55 -0500 From: Matthew Roberts <exile@compuserve.com> Subject: Gary you lazy bastard To: Gary Numan <numan@cs.uwp.edu> >When you consider that it took him about four years to get up off his ar= se to >complete Exile (and even then he had to include an old single to make= up the = >numbers), I'm getting a little worried about Numan's commitment Ho ho ho! Nice one Tom, especially with Firework Night coming up. I'd lov= e to see Gary's face if he read this. BTW, did I say Heart of Glass didn't have the same intro as Remind Me To Smile? Doh! I just played the 1981 remix, and the intro IS the identical percussion pattern. It also appears on "Same Old Scene", a Roxy Music tra= ck from 1980. Despite the above references, I'd like to point out that I do not live in= the 1980's and my favourite groups are NOT Flock Of Seagulls, China Crisi= s and Howard Jones. I do however quite like Blur, Suede, Smashing Pumpkins and Placebo. Matthew Roberts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:57:27 +0000 From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Getting old records To: numan@cs.uwp.edu We frequently get appeals from Numnaoids wanting particular records for their collections. Does everyone know that "ASYLUM MERCHANDISE", care of Danny Turner, 26, Fairfield Avenue, Edgware, Middlesex, HA8 9AQ, England, sells back catalogue stuff, some of it VERY CHEAP. Paddy Vickers. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 07:14:05 EST From: MNicho1053@aol.com Subject: Hi To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Just a quick hello from Numan fan 11,404. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:48:10 -0700 From: "richard carter" <kingofeightiesmusic@angelfire.com> Subject: IMAGES: PRESENT & PAST To: "gary numan digest" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> HOWDY !!!!!! KING RICHARD HERE....... ran across a couple of pictures that maybe some of you can use... a poster from the tour this year... http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kingofeightiesmusic/images/GNCONCERT.JPG the other is a favorate of mine.... GARY from the movie URGH! A MUSIC WAR... http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kingofeightiesmusic/images/garycar.gif feel free to use them on your sites... --- King Richard The Kingdom King Richard's 80's Musical Kingdom: Stay for dinner next time...we're having barbecued iguana! http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kingofeightiesmusic/index.html Check out the interview from THE CHURCH at KING OF 80'S MUSIC http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kingofeightiesmusic/reviews.html Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:18:58 -0600 From: "Shannon M. Smith" <ardie55@wt.net> Subject: interesting find---- To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I have in my possesion an interesting vinyl copy of Radio Heart that I was hoping someone could tell me more about. I used to have a good record-buyer contact here in Houston, Tx. that picked it up for me about 6 yrs. ago. It is a test pressing of the single version of 'Radio Heart' from Specialty Records Corporation in Olyphant. PA. USA. The label is basic black on white photocopy with the info. being handwritten and Gary's name being spelled 'Gary Newman'. It also contains an mtx #(?) stcr51792-1 and a rec. # 7-99454. I've never heard of this company before and neither has anybody I've asked about them. If anybody has any idea how many of these exist(# of copies) I would be thrilled to hear from you. Thanks, Roger rog808numa@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:45:46 EST From: Phabrams@aol.com Subject: new Email address To: numan@cs.uwp.edu dear numan digest, I am changing my email address from blgdabrams @ aol.com to the above address Thanks for processing the change Paul Abrams ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:19:12 -0700 From: "Joey Lindstrom" <joey@lindstrom.com> Subject: Numan/Nicholson To: "Gary Numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> On Sun, 25 Oct 98 01:00:02 CDT, William J. Brown wrote: >i was looking around in music blvd. and saw numan / nicholson listed for >29.00. it said the release date was oct 20. there was no track listing. >is this the same thing that a lot of people ordered but never got? i'll >let you know if i get mine. have a nice week bill I dunno, but very probably. It's also available on CDNOW.COM for just $22.04. / From Joey Lindstrom joey@lindstrom.com / Interocitor Dot Net http://www.interocitor.net / / Unless you intend to kill him immediately thereafter, never kick a / man in the balls. Not even symbolically. Or perhaps especially not / symbolically. / -- Friday Jones, "Friday" / (Robert Heinlein) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:38:55 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie <amchaffie@meto.gov.uk> Subject: Numan Poll To: Numan Digest <numan@cs.uwp.edu> I know we love our polls here, so Ive set one up on the web. To vote, go to http://www.best.com/~drumz/mp/artists/numan/ You dont have to vote for every song, but as many as you have time or interest for.. Too just view the results so far, go to http://www.best.com/~drumz/mp/ Andy -- http://www.joekeith.dircon.co.uk/mouthfull.html -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:54:45 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie <amchaffie@meto.gov.uk> Subject: Numan Poll To: Numan Digest <numan@cs.uwp.edu> OK, the poll is up and running..visit http://www.best.com/~drumz/mp/ and get voting. I'll keep this poll open for some time and perhaps send in occasional updates... Andy -- http://www.joekeith.dircon.co.uk/mouthfull.html -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:15:33 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: poll To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Since everyone is listing their favourite songs on each album in the poll, I'll do the same. The Plan-Don't really have one as I hardly ever listen to it, I just don't like that type of music Tubeway Army-"My Shadow In Vain"-short, frantic, Gary sings like his pants are on fire. A live favourite. Replicas-"Me! I Disconnect From You"- That intro is amazing, whole song sounds so fresh despite its age. All time fave live track (Ghost version is best) The Pleasure Principle-"Metal"-I was tempted to put Cars, but Metal does it for me because of that addictive synth riff. The number of people I've annoyed humming it :-) Telekon- "I Die:You Die" is best- Gary deserves a criminal punishment for leaving this off the album. Has everything I like about it, I just wish it was longer. Dance-"Crash"- not really representative of the rest of the album, but it bears some resemblance to ID:YD I Assassin-"We Take Mystery To Bed"-the al time Numan dance song, I'd love to see this played live again. Warriors-"Warriors"-That bass, plus Gary's emotional singing make this a winner on one of my otherwise least favourite albums Berserker-"Cold Warning"- I love most off this album, but this song is catchiest, along with that violin and great foot-tapping rhythm The Fury-"Tricks"-don't know what it is about this one, but there are times where I just can't stop singing "we all fall down" and piss people off in the process. Strange Charm-"Strange Charm" -I just like faster songs, like this frantic action packed thing with another very catchy rhythm. Metal Rhythm-"Hunger" This gets the choice because it's so catchy (again) and uses the most synth on a more guitar based album. Outland-"Heart" I suppose if you're not so keen on the over produced, dancey, IRS ruined stuff, then you're left with 3 good tracks. This one has the easiest lyrics to relate to. Machine+Soul-"Wonder Eye"-Another great ballad, but didn't need Kipper's treatment. Lyrics easy to relate to, but should have been on the album in this form. Sacrifice-"Love and Napalm"-back to the fast catchy, frantic music. I loved this on first listen Exile-"Dead Heaven"- This stood out immediately and should have been the single instead of Dominion Day. Love the lyrics! Other polls that can be done after the current one: Ranking live albums (would include "Live at the Roxy") Favourite version of "Cars" !!!! Ranking songs on each album (although doing one each month would be no good for me as I could be offline for a long time after June 1999) Favourite other artists apart from Numan Who thinks what is best? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:52:59 -0500 From: Room 237 <room237@overlook.hotel.com> Subject: Remind Me... To: Gary Numan <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Matthew Roberts <exile@compuserve.com> wrote: > Subject: Remind Me... > Years ago, someone on the Digest said that the percussion intro to Remind > Me To Smile was identical to Heart Of Glass, whereas I had said <snip> And on the subject of this track...Maybe that's why the remastered release on BB has a changed intro to Remind Me. The compurhythm has some kind of filter/pitch sweep on it now. Frustrating...I like it the way it was. Even if it did have the same/similar patch. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:45:40 -0800 From: "Paul Govier" <paul@govier.demon.co.uk> Subject: Sharpe & Numan - reissue question To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I have the original version of this on CD and although I wouldn't be willing to part with it, I could copy the CD for anyone who's interested. That's a CD copy, not tape. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:37:15 -0000 From: "Phil Marsh" <phil.marsh@ndirect.co.uk> Subject: Smile/Glass intros To: numan@cs.uwp.edu From: Matthew Roberts <exile@compuserve.com> >Years ago, someone on the Digest said that the percussion intro to Remind >Me To Smile was identical to Heart Of Glass, whereas I had said that it >was identical to a Roxy Music track. >Just got in from the pub tonight and listened to Heart Of Glass. >I was right. >Nothing new. Resisting the urge to cough loudly as your ego overflows loudly (hmmm sounds like a good Numan title...), there's every chance you were both right - the pattern in question is a preset off a Roland CR78 walnut cabinetted "very 1970s" drum machine. "Technology Anorak Mode <OFF>" Bye for now Phil (phil.marsh@ndirect.co.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:05:29 EST From: TELEKON@aol.com Subject: the touring principle To: numan@cs.uwp.edu hey there i am looking for a copy of the numan video "the touring principle" ---- i have other numan videos to trade - please e - mail me at telekon @aol.com if interested! chuck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:55:57 +-1100 From: Martin Purvis <purvism@syd.switch.net.au> Subject: This Wreckage To: "'Gary Numan Digest'" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> I have to agree with Alec Way. This Wreckage is one of my all-time favourite Numan songs. In those days Gary used the synth like a sledgehammer, and this is one of the best examples. Martin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:44:29 EST From: Jamesy999@aol.com Subject: Valium..... To: NUMAN@cs.uwp.edu As regards to the Roche 5 debate... Am I to take it that Roche 5 is in refrence to the drug Valium then ?? or am I being thick !! seeing as I opened a can of worms with the single that never was debate...here's another..What are your absolute hated Numan tracks ?? I will start the ball rolling with. 1) This Wreckage. 2) London Times. 3) This Is Love... I would sooner eat dog doo doo than be forced to listen to these ever again. Let's see where this one takes us.. Tony J Everybody's Infected.....Except me !! ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************