Gary Numan Digest Sun, 1 Nov 98 Volume 1 : Issue 482 Today's Topics: Buyer beware... Cd's and video's Conan Obrien Dominion Day video Gary Numan Digest V1 #481 (2 msgs) Nicholson cashes in Numan poll - restarted poll and least favourite tracks razormaid cd for sale Restarted poll This Dark Facade Ends unfavourite Numan Valeriun - name game Very negative ways to look at Numan albums ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:34:25 -0000 From: "Phil Marsh" <phil.marsh@ndirect.co.uk> Subject: Buyer beware... To: numan@cs.uwp.edu > From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk > We frequently get appeals from Numnaoids wanting particular > records for their collections. > Does everyone know that "ASYLUM MERCHANDISE", care of > Danny Turner.... > sells back catalogue stuff, some of it VERY CHEAP. Yup, and lots of bootleg stuff...and I know of people who've ordered and never received their goods. Buyer beware, as they say...or maybe "buyer don't bother" in this case... Bye for now Phil (phil.marsh@ndirect.co.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:36:30 PST From: "Stephen Cunningham" <stephenc71@hotmail.com> Subject: Cd's and video's To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Nanci, Try the Replicants Room web site. It has several full length video clips and short, 30 second snips to download. Cheers, Steve PS Mark Radcliffe is easily the best DJ on Radio One at the moment. Leave him alone. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:00:01 EST From: Dinky1002@aol.com Subject: Conan Obrien To: numan@cs.uwp.edu catch the "gary Numan music channel" bit - Conan Obrien, 10/30/98? what a great idea!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:33:17 EST From: Lizard4663@aol.com Subject: Dominion Day video To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Check out http://www.musicvideos.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:19:35 EST From: AScand7463@aol.com Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #481 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Not really interested in the current polls, well, that's not true... it's just that I can't decide on favourite tracks apart from my all time favourite which has always been 'Complex' (first Numan record I heard... don't know how I missed AFE and Cars but heard that one, but there you go...) so thought I'd answer all of James Chapman's ideas for polls... <Ranking live albums (would include "Live at the Roxy")> Living Ornaments 80, then LO 79, then probably Ghost. Worst is Skin Mechanic, others I never bothered to buy, though I heard Dream Corrosion and I wish I had it, now... Live at the Roxy is interesting, but still poor. It's the sound quality more than the songs, some of the songs I'd love to hear a good quality recording of, for I'm in a minority... I like The Plan! <Favourite version of "Cars" !!!!> I only really like the original. Every remix of it misses out all the atmosphere that Gary's version had. But if I had to choose another, it'd probably be the Dave Clarke remix on random. < Favourite other artists apart from Numan> Today it's Placebo. I lie a lot of stuff, though, and this changes often. People I've constantly liked apart from Numan are - Alien Sex Fiend (third favourite after Gary and Placebo respectively) Siouxsie, The Cure, Bauhaus, Human League, Japan, John Foxx, Marc Almond (yeah, sorry... I just always liked the guy), Faith No More, and a few others. Placebo and Alien Sex Fiend are the only artists apart from Gary who have yet to record anything I have absolutely hated. I love every track on both Placebo albums, which for someone of my very limited attention-span is very very rare, and ASF are just such good fun (love their use of synths, especially live) and, along with Gary, reman the *only* other artists who have made whole albums that I can listen to all the way through without ever getting bored. Now that I have made yet more enemies by declaring an admiration for the Anti- Numan himself (Marc), I'll quietly shuffle off and wait until I'm ripped to pieces... hey - I can't help my musical tastes ;) Antonio 'Y'know... a kiss on the hand may be quite continental, man... but tactical thermo-nuclear weaponry is a guy's best friend!' DR & Quinch =========================================== http://members.aol.com/ascand7463/ANTONIO/Page1.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:39:35 EST From: VRcadia@aol.com Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #481 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Jamesy999@aol.com asked.... What are your absolute hated Numan tracks ?? 1. 1999 2. U Got the Look While I like TAFKAP (The artist formerly known as Prince) quite alot as well... Numan's versions is just so wrong on many levels. I adore Numan's stuff.. and I enjoy TAFKAP's alot, this was truley a marrage made in hell.. or at least in heck at any rate. Alot of the rest of Machine and Soul was sub-par. Also not to keen on the PLan and quite a bit of Tubeway Army. Though there are some very good tracks on the later (Jo the Waiter, My Love is a Liquid, Everyday I Die). Mitchell Gore http://members.aol.com/lestatdelc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:24:24 -0800 From: Derek Langsford <dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> Subject: Nicholson cashes in To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Looking at CDNow, not only do they list the Numan/Nicholson compilation but they list a reissue of the most rare of Numan CDs - Radio Heart featuring Gary Numan. Radio Heart is aka High Nicholson aka Da Da Dang. Those who have heard the Radio Heart know that this while two of the 3 songs Gary contributed to are OK, the third (London Times) is awful and the rest of the album gets worse from there. Maybe they have added the recent Radio Heart remix as a "bonus" track? :-) Still, these releases will give fans a chance to get these rare Numan recordings. And if Nicholson has done as promised last year, the compilation should have all the extended and instrumental versions of the Numan/Nicholson collaborations (I wrote that originally as Collabortions - a freudian slip? :-). At over $31 each I would hesitate to pay that price. Wait till Cheap or What (www.cow.co.uk) or CDparadise (www.cdpradise.com) lists them to get a better price direct from the UK. Derek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek H. Langsford "Numanews" San Diego, California, USA The Gary Numan Digest email numan-request@cs.uwp.edu to subscribe -----------------------------------------------------------------------------uwp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:36:16 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie <amchaffie@meto.gov.uk> Subject: Numan poll - restarted To: Jon Garland <jgd@leicester.ac.uk>, Matthew Tamea <mtamea@caci.co.uk>, I have restarted the Numan Poll. People were having trouble getting to the later songs, and various troubles were being reported. So, I have edited the song list. I have removed: 1. Cover Verisons 2. Collaborations 3. Live Recordings 4. Rerecordings / Remixes 5. "Original Versions" (eg, half of The Plan) Exceptions: To 2: Stormtrooper In Drag, as Ive felt this was basically a Gary Numan song To 5: Original We Take Mystery which sounds like a completely different song Hopefully this will make things easier. So if youve not voted, vote now, and if you have, can you recast your votes ? Thanks Andy http://www.best.com/~drumz/mp/artists/numan2/ - to vote http://www.best.com/~drumz/mp/artists/numan2/view.cgi - to view standings ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:38:38 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: poll and least favourite tracks To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Well now there's a full definitive poll on the net, mine looks rather pathetic now doesn't it? However, it is still open until the end of November. I have had about 30 votes, which out of over 500 subscribers, is rather dissappointing. Where are all the rest of you? Don't you want a say in what the digest's favourite album is? Moving on I think the views of least favourite Numan songs are a great idea. Here are mine 1. Emotion 2. The Need 3. Telekon 4. Dark Sunday 5. My Brother's Time 6. My Love is a Liquid 7. Poison 8. Absolution 9. Devotion 10. Love is Like Clock Law And the worst Numan-related tracks War Songs off Random Films off Random Down in the Park off Random Deadliner off Techno Army U Got the Look off Techno Army And most of Random 2!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael R. Ward" <mrward@mailbox.syr.edu> Subject: razormaid cd for sale To: numan digest <numan@cs.uwp.edu> i dont know if anybody is interested but i have a razormaid remix cd that includes "no more lies" "change your mind" "i'm on automatic" "my dying machine" "cars" and "your fascination" remixes on it that i would like to put up for sale. it also includes pete shelley "own your own" cabaret voltaire "don't argue" and a flock of seagulls "transfer affection" remixes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:25:36 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie <amchaffie@meto.gov.uk> Subject: Restarted poll To: Numan Digest <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Incidentally, the resterted poll is on the same address as the old one, not .../numan2... http://www.best.com/~drumz/mp/ Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:08:04 -0600 (CST) From: real-one@ix.netcom.com (John Marques Carramao) Subject: This Dark Facade Ends To: numan@cs.uwp.edu (Gary Numan) I have to agree with Alec Way, Martin Purvis and 5 out of the 6 Keebler Elves in asking; what's with all the slagging of 'This Wreckage'? and what if god's dead? Have we done something wrong? Why I do I like it? I need to, I need to..... Replay 'The End' it's all just show..... John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 03:34:52 +0800 From: Jean Burgess <Jeanb@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au> Subject: unfavourite Numan To: Gary Numan <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Hi everyone, I'm still busy right now, but this is easy to put regarding least favourite tracks. I have begun the mammoth task of listening to all the Numan I possess in between doing a programming assignment. I started with Tubeway Army, The Plan and Replicas and it reminded me of the 'I Nearly Married a Human' track, after all this time I still don't like it. I haven't listened to the B Side of Cars for some time, but I should imagine I still won't like "Asylum", it would make a good Horror film sound track though. I would like to say though that I like nearly all of Numan's music, when rating the first 3 Lp's I rated a lot of the tracks 1, mind you I have a way to go. I think with 6 tracks rated 1 on Replicas, Replicas may well be my favourite Lp. Well back to programming Sees ya Jean ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:09:23 -0330 From: "Doug Mair" <dougmair@travel-net.com> Subject: Valeriun - name game To: <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Just a quick note to all playing with "Valeriun" name source... The proper spelling as per 1979 Beggars Banquet 45" release of Tubeway Army - Thats Too Bad/Oh Did'nt I Say listed Gary as "VALERIUN" Thought That would just stir it up for the detail people, Have fun. It could be a credible creative twist on the old Mobeius comic character... Ask Gary. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:49:00 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: Very negative ways to look at Numan albums To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Someone mentioned a few months ago in the digest that Outland was generally not well liked among Numanoids for being too dancey, and Machine+Soul for being too poppy. He also mentioned something like..."so is The Pleasure Principle too synthy?" Well I can think of possible reasons why people don't like each Numan album (well, almost) The Plan - too punky Tubeway Army- too guitary Replicas- too sci-fi The Pleasure Principle- too 'antiseptic' Telekon - not all the best material was on the album Dance - too slow or ambient I, Assassin - too bassy Warriors - too saxy Berserker - well he looks stupid on the cover (can't think of anything musically :-) The Fury - too female vocally Strange Charm - no real character or feel Metal Rhythm - too 'synth-lite', all the songs sound the same (my father is guilty of this one) Outland - too dancey M+S - too poppy Sacrifice- too drum loopy Exile- too dark, dirgey, don't like the lyrics Don't get me wrong , some of these reasons are why I love the music, and others have lots of good points to cancel these out. Strange Charm may be disjoint, but there's only "The Need" that I dislike on it. (yes, I even like I Can't Stop !) Also, I have seen Outland and Machine+Soul been criticised for being "Non-Numan". Well imagine this: forget about everything Gary did up to and including Metal Rhythm, and Outland was his debut album (god I bet that's hard to imagine). now people liked this dance pop of his first two albums, although it won't have been particularly ground breaking. But when Sacrifice came out, it was nothing like his first two albums, being dark and religious, the people said "god, this is not like anyhing he's done before, it's so non Numan" Exile then came out and was more of the same. People all said "God, we want more old Numan stuff like Soul Protection or From Russia Infected". Unlikely but possible! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:52:14 +0300 From: "Peter Enright" <peter.enright@co.ru> Subject: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ To: "Digest Numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Reuters (Ashgabat, Turkmenistan) Is it just me or has this Digest become just a TAD BORING lately? I find endless discussions about old releases and questions of missing tracks and whether or not Gaz is committed to his music and which album I like best and whether Blondie used the same Goddamn percussion pattern and Roche and valerium and bleedin' Whatney's Red Barrel is sooooooo boring ... worse than watching the TV test pattern! I release that the Digest is the only place for such dross but Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle it really fucking numbs my brain! I want distraction not irrelevant gibberish. Come on maybe it's time to liven this thing up. Any suggestions from the other Digest live-wires? The TikTok Man Tarting around Turkmenistan (Check your Atlas stupid!) ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************