Gary Numan Digest Sun, 22 Nov 98 Volume 1 : Issue 488 Today's Topics: 19th ALBUM !!!!!! <none> a warning, now that I think of it...... Back after a long absence berserker tour Extended Exile available Gary Numan (2 msgs) I Dream of (crossed) wires norman bates oh wait 'til the Digest gets hold of this! OLD NEWS ? Polls random musings Stop the reissues Unknown + Hostile what NUMAN song to do that thang to..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:41:47 +0100 From: DE VISSCHER Luc <> Subject: 19th ALBUM !!!!!! To: Here some comments from Belgium over remarks of the past digests: For sure, Gary's next album is his 19th, and NOT his 20th. I don't, and will NEVER consider Live at Roxy as a new album. But I can fully agree with Human (which is real great and I love every zillionth of a second of it) and Automatic (if Gary sings on all songs of an album, it's a Numan album). So hold your horses, dear collective, and wait for the album after next one to celebrate Gary's 20th plus the year 2000 (most probably). Now a totally different story. Previously, when I talked about Numan with people who didn't know him, I tent to give Pleasure Principle, Replicas or some Best of from Beggars Banquet. Since, for me, they are never outdated, and they have Gary's 2 greatest success on which might ring a bell to the listener. Now, fellow Numanoids, do not do this any longer. Let me explain. I hired a new assistant about 6 months ago, and he's only 23. That means he was 4 when Gary was most successful, and he has no idea about this past. So, I lend him Exile, since he didn't know anything of the past anyway. Yesterday, my dear friends, he has decided to BUY Exile, because he likes it so much, and asked me for another album. That one will be Sacrifice off course. And I will continue working backwards to make him comfortable with the "Numan Sound" (I might skip M&S though...). Numan is indeed generating "New" fans with his "New" Music. One small remark about Machine and Soul, though I also rank it as my least favorite, there are some brilliant songs on it. I love "Cry", the extended version of "Poison", and the ballad "I wonder" (the latter maybe because I was thinking of someone in particular that year, but mostly Numan's love ballads are great). Amongst Numan's 18 albums, the least played in my CD player apart of this one, is The Fury (too nervous) and Warriors (I hated the concept). The favorite songs to have sex with, is definitely "Slowcar to china". Soft, slow, moody, lingering on, long,... Think I made my point here. (Though I can't stop would be "different", not the music, just the chorus...;-)). Song of the week, We have a Technical. Definitely one of Gary's better songs of '79. Never understood why it didn't appear on Replicas. Also, Gary's voice is so distant and strange. I like the whole atmosphere! And my final remark goes to Cleopatra. I have to agree with the comments that they release too much too fast. I would have preferred they would combine all their efforts for one gigantic promotional campaign for the next album. And still, I wonder what the purpose was of The Numa years. Only Numan fans buy it, not occasional buyers. And if an occasional buyer would, he would also regret the absence of the lyrics. Greetings from the cold Belgium, and if I don't write anymore this year, I'm the first to wish you all... ...a warm and cozy Christmas, and a brilliant new year; I love you ALL, no matter what religion, what political party, what color, what sexual preference you have or how you look like! Best regards, Luc DE VISSCHER THE NUMAN FACTOR - BELGIUM TEL +32.2.714.68.15 FAX +32.2.714.68.19 GSM +32.75.680.560 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:47:48 PST From: "Ian N" <> Subject: <none> To: Remember last year when "The Record Label" ripped some of us off when they were advertising the Radioheart CD, and they debited everyone's credit cards but never sent the goods. Well it looks as if the Radioheart CD has finally been released. Some of the on-line CD stores have it in their on-line catalog, but I can't understand why the different stores have different catalog numbers. Some examples: On-Line Store. Description. Cat #. Price. -------------- ------------ ------ ------ CD Zone Radioheart SPINCD2003 12.02 (UK Pounds) CD Paradise Nicholson/Numan ??? 10.23 (UK Pounds) Cheap Or What Nicholson/Numan P-SPINCD2005 11.90 (UK Pounds) CD Now Numan/Nicholson RECORM121619 $31.49 (US Dollars) Can anyone tell me why there are different catalog numbers? Are they the same CD, or are there different CDs with different mixes etc??? Ian. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:41:46 -0700 From: "richard carter" <> Subject: a warning, now that I think of it...... To: "gary numan digest" <> HOWDY !!!!!!!!! KING RICHARD HERE.... a quick one from the pun intended...... As I think of it, any NUMAN song is great to us while making love, but a warning to you of what NOT to use Never use (WHO'S AFRAID OF ) THE ART OF NOISE??? by THE ART OF NOISE... Oh sure, it may seem like a good idea, until you get to the song CLOSE TO THE EDIT. The repetitive car starting sound will make her laugh every time. Nothing like laughter to make that "moment" dissapear as well as your......well, uhh...I mean.... I think I made my point...... ------------------------------------ "Ginger spice has left THE SPICE GIRLS, and they said she will be replaced by a leafblower with breasts..." - DENNIS MILLER... ------------------------------------- King Richard The Kingdom King Richard's 80's Musical Kingdom: Stay for dinner next time...we're having barbecued iguana! Check out the interview from THE CHURCH at KING OF 80'S MUSIC Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:03:46 -0500 From: "Tony Boies" <> Subject: Back after a long absence To: "Numan Digest" <> Just wanted to make a few general comments after a prolonged silence on = the Digest: I've been very happy to follow the resurgence in Gary's career, through = the Digest, the NuWorld site, and other bits and pieces I've seen or = read. I have only been a fan since 1984 (after seeing DITP on Urgh! A = Music War), but the late 1980's were pretty lean years as far as popular = interest in Gary, especially here in the U.S. Gary's songwriting ability has grown and grown over the years, but that = doesn't always translate into success, as evidenced by other artists (I = still think Peter Gabriel's best years are long behind him). I think the = solid effort put into both Sacrifice and Exile, combined with a lot of = high-profile musicians stepping forward and paying homage to Gary as an = important influence, have been a great combination, along with a popular = interest in "industrial-goth" and a more open-minded music press. I had the pleasure of seeing Gary for the first time at the 9:30 Club in = Washington, DC this past May, and the show was wonderful (only Suckdog's = Baltimore Show earlier this month even comes close). His voice was = much richer than back in 1978-79. I hope he returns to the = U.S. next year! That is about it...I would love to see the Plan, Dance, and I Assassin = rereleased with bonus tracks as single albums. Also, because of all the = various images used in his tours over the years, I think a live concert = compilation video (with clips from 1979-1998) would be visually very = striking, and probably more enjoyable than the video compilations that = have been released. I hope that the project Rod Reynolds spoke about comes to pass. If a = compilation of Numan covers with Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails on = it was released, sales (and exposure) would be very heavy. Still confusing love with need, Tony R. Boies ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:52:21 -0500 (EST) From: (Alison Koppel) Subject: berserker tour To: if anyone is interested, i have the original berserker tour vhs (ntsc). i will make high quality copies for anyone who wants one for $15.00 + $3.00 S&H. total-$18.00. also, if anyone knows the track listing for the numan/nicholson album, please let me know. all i know about nicholson is that he along with i guess his brother dave nicholson wrote & produced all across the nation which is on the radioheart featuring gary numan cd. i waqnt to buy this numan/nicholson album, but perhaps after knowing what's on it would be the best way to go. ~ cheers. "I TURN OFF THE PAIN, LIKE I TURNED OFF YOU ALL, NOW THERE'S ONLY M.E." ~gary numan - the pleasure principle~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:05:43 -0800 From: Derek Langsford <> Subject: Extended Exile available To: Exile Extended is available from NuWORLD. Tracks times are as follows. Can hardly wait to revel in all 74 minutes of it. 1. DOMINION DAY Time: 7:50 2. PROPHECY Time: 9:01 3. DEAD HEAVEN Time: 7:52 4. DARK Time: 7:33 5. INNOCENCE BLEEDING Time: 6:54 6. THE ANGEL WARS Time: 9:39 7. ABSOLUTION Time: 6:27 8. AN ALIEN CURE Time: 9:49 9. EXILE Time: 8:56 Derek -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Langsford Ph.D. Environmental Management Specialist County of San Diego, Dept. of Planning and Land Use 5201 Ruffin Road, Ste. B San Diego, CA 92123 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:17:00 -0600 From: "Kevin Dyck" <> Subject: Gary Numan To: <> Hi! My name is Kevin Dyck. I am 35 years old and live in Prince Albert, = Saskatchewan, Canada. I have been listening to Gary Numan since I first = saw him on tv with Johnny Carson. ('78 or '79) He played "Praying to = the Aliens". My dad hated him, which I guess was my first reason for = purchasing his albums. The more I listened the more I appreciated his = style and lyrics, and I have been an avid fan ever since. My only = complaint is the lack of availability of his music. As far as my taste in music goes, you could say I am eclectic. For = older stuff, I like a lot of the old bands: Agent Orange, Dead = Kennedys, Birthday Party, Japan, Art Bergmann, etc. For the newer bands, my taste runs to the darker, more moody stuff: = Alice in Chains, Tool, Concrete Blonde, etc. I also play guitar, and we have a band that we sort of mess around with, = nothing serious, called "Smiling Politely". I am looking forward to recieving the Newsletter! sincerely,=20 Kevin Dyck ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:29:30 -0000 From: "darren pentney" <> Subject: GARY NUMAN To: <> hi, I am pleased to say I have been a NUMAN fan since '79 I have seen = him a total of 24 times live and met=20 Gary also. I have every commercially available release he has ever done = as well as a lot of rarities (photograph lp,down in the park 12" etc..) = I also listen to a lot of other music covering a variety of tastes. if I = had to be honest my favourite ever group was JAPAN who i am afraid to = say I never saw live (though I have seen DAVID SYLVIAN on a solo tour) I = would welcome any correspondence with fellow NUMAN fans from anywhere = around the globe.=20 hope to hear from you soon DARREN PENTNEY. =20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:55:09 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <> Subject: I Dream of (crossed) wires To: The matter with Joey Lindstrom is now sorted out. I actually assumed his message with the "smiley" implied that I was some kind of saddo for liking I Can't Stop (but trying to be funny about it) when it was actually just a bit of banter. I myself have used smileys recently but with me trying to be funny about making my point, not jokingly. I am all for a bit of constructive discussion about things we disagree on, as long as it doesn't get out of hand, like this could have. As for I Can't Stop, Joey answered my original question perfectly. I actually wasted nearly 6 minutes of my life counting the number of times the female vocalist sings "I can't stop, I can't stop it again" and I came up a grand total of 64 times! (that's the album version by the way!) Back to normal programming, James ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 01:45:21 +0000 From: nickfox <> Subject: norman bates To: Gary Numan <> Hi, >something you can slip on while your friends are over to try your new recipe, >or maybe that special candle-lit dinner for that special someone ... nudge, >nudge. I always get a kick out of playing the piano version of DITP at dinner >parties, and waiting until someone asks "Who is this? It's very good Dinner parties ? :-) pleez don't make me laugh next you will be suggesting the flick side of cars whilst mother is upstairs in the rocking chair. 'my name is norman bates i am just a normal guy' :-) Sorry but DITP Piano version is pants, it sucks big time. It wouldn't be so bad if the piano was in tune. :-) >I'm not suggesting that there should be a cover-up regarding some of >Numan's past albums and images. Well let me suggest it then :-) >So it would appear that for the next album what is wanted is more >dark stuff. Some are saying bring back real drums but maybe I would >like to see the return of analogue synths as well. The newer ones >just aren't the same, despite me rating Sacrifice very high.. I'l be >back with more stats later..... Yeah I'd love to hear the return of both real drums and analogue synth 'like' sounds. Maybe the analogue synth has a slightly more natural and warm sound to it. (including true random drift) hehehe Sometimes the imperfection makes the sound, whatever real drums and analogue synths would certainly be welcomed by me. >I read on the AFE site that MTV were flying over to interview Jason Smith >and film his band the Numan Principle in concert. This was supposed to >happen in early November I think. > >Did it happen???? > >(It all seemed rather odd to me. After all, why not fly over and interview >the main man himself?) :-) very funny. so I wasn't the only one thinking that. I once heard Gary say Jason was the 'numan' spokesman Maybe MTV are hoping to discredit Gary ? <g> (no disrespect intended to Jason) Lets hope the interview didn't come off. >I fail to see how the downloading of deleted or rare tracks as MP3 files >could affect Garys career. Maybe you should start using yours ears instead then <g> It's true though Gary needn't get paranoid about mp3. Maybe dvd but not mp3 :-) >Y'all are slagging each other off rather a lot lately, aren't you? And for no >adequately explored reason. To that I can only say: >YOU'RE ALL FOOLS! ALL OF YOU! >;-) Don't ya mean all of "US" Exclusion is not an option. <g> cya all lordfox 'mother oh my god' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:45:36 +0300 From: "Peter Enright" <> Subject: oh wait 'til the Digest gets hold of this! To: "Digest Numan" <> Ah ... Hopey77 now we're talking ... about sex, so is this oral sex? I hope it's not appropriate, but let's face it, that'll make it all the better for the Digest! Actually (blushing) I have to admit I've shagged to ALL of Numan's music, in cars, on sofas, kitchen tables, even once in a cemetery (but that's another story) his music is perfect for the rhythm method, Dream Killer is great for foreplay ... after the Cognac for a leg-opener of course, but my faves for fairly fucking obvious reasons are: Creatures, Tricks, Emotion, Desire, The Joy Circuit, The Skin Game, Face To Face, I Can't Stop, The Secret, Outland, You Are In My Vision, Replicas, A Game Called Echo and She's Got Claws (down my spine baby ...) A lot of staying power there folks, yesiree! And we chaps all know the girlies just love those extended mixes, if you get my drift ... And if you want to meet a "guy into Numan", methinks there are several on this list with that predilection ... But you can always pop over to Moscow next time you're in the mood Hopey77! Yeah I know it's a long way to COME but it's worth it! :-) (insert schoolboy snigger here) Hey! ain't no cheap meat here baby! Diverging somewhat, I thought I'd share this with y'all: I was having a few glasses of the golden throat-charmer the other night with some Brit pals, and when Polly saw my Exile sweatshirt, she suddenly exploded in her thick "Souf Lundun" accent "One of my mates was a backing singer for Gary Numan, he's way cool!" and she proceeded to sing AFE ... well you had to be there, it was a Kodak moment. The TikTok Man in Brass Monkeys Land PS: Jean Burgess, you are returning to the UK after living in Oz ... are you NUTS or what? (gagging sound) "Once I dreamt that I had insomnia ..." - PE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:40:42 -0000 From: "david maplestone" <> Subject: OLD NEWS ? To: <> HAVING BEEN A NUMAN FAN FOR 18 YEARS IT IS WITH SOME ANXIETY THAT I TYPE = THE FOLLOWING . REGARDING GARY'S VOCAL QUALITY STUDIO AND LIVE. WE ALL HAVE UNOFFICIAL AND OFFICIAL RECORDINGS OF GARY 79 TO 81 ALL ARE MOSTLY CLEAR WORD FOR WORD. DEPECHE MODE LIVE 98 ON MTV AND I SAW THEM 4 TIMES IN THE UK A COUPLE OF = MONTHS AGO........D GAHAN'S VOCAL AGAIN EVERY WORD=20 CLEARY RECOGNISED..........A LOT OF NUMAN FANS WORLDWIDE WILL PROBABLY = SAY THAT GARY IS NOT AS' MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ' AS DEPECHE MODE SO IT DOES = NOT MATTER BUT IN GARYS OWN WORDS HE IS AIMING FOR UPTO 20YR OLD FANS = SO IF HE WANTS THEM TO CONCENTRATE ON HIM THE VOCAL MUST BE CLEAR NOT = SLURRED . I WILL ALWAYS BE A HARD CORE FAN BUT I FEEL GARY HAS TO DO THIS ON STUDIO AND LIVE RECORDINGS TO INCREASE HIS NEW FOUND RESPECT FROM = ALL SIDES. BEFORE MODE RECORDED ULTRA GAHAN WENT FOR SINGING TUITION AND INCREASED = POWER AND RANGE ON THAT ALBUM COMPARED TO SONGS OF FAITH AND DEVOTION. WONDER IF NUMAN HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THIS.........EVEN AS AN EXPERIMENT, = HE HAS DONE ACTING LESSONS ? NUMAN I KNOW IS ALSO A BIG MODE FAN AND WENT TO THE RECENT 98 TOUR 2ND = NIGHT AT WEMBLEY ARENA.HE ALSO SIGHTS WALKING IN MY SHOES AS THE SONG = THAT INFLUENCED SACRAFICE AND GOT HIM BACK ON TRACK. IF GARY PUT HIS NEW POWERFUL UNNERVING LYRICS TO HIS NEW MUSIC........ = WITH A CLEAR VOCAL......... WHO KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. ASK ANY ANTI NUMAN FAN ABOUT GARY AND 9 TIMES OUT 10 THEY START SINGING = CARS OR AFE BECAUSE THEY COULD HEAR THE VOCAL. ANYWAY DONT GET ME WRONG I AM A MASSIVE NUMAN FAN BUT I WANT HIM TO = PROGRESS FURTHER. IF THIS HAS STURRED PEOPLE UP IT WAS NOT MEANT TO I JUST FELT IT NEEDED = SAYING.IT MAY HAVE BEEN SAID BEFORE BUT I HAVE ONLY BEEN ON THE DIGEST = 2 WEEKS AND HAD A PC 2.5 WEEKS. LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS. DAVID NOTTINGHAM UK =20 =20 I FEEL THE PRESSURE LIKE YOUR EYES ON ME............. =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:19:15 +0000 From: Andy McHaffie <> Subject: Polls To: Numan Digest <> The poll at is still runnning, and will be ongoing, but just to compare things with James Chapman's, here is how the results compare. My poll ranks individual songs and comes up with an album rankig, while James' ranks albums as a whole. With 24 ballots receoved for my poll so far, compared to 30 for James', here's the comparison so far. James' results in brackets 1. THE PLEASURE PRINCIPLE (4) 2. REPLICAS (2) 3. BERSERKER (7) 4. SACRIFICE (3) 5. THE FURY (10) 6. TELEKON (1) 7. DANCE (6) 8. EXILE (5) 9. I ASSASSIN (8) 10. WARRIORS (9) 11. METAL RHYTHM (12) 12. STRANGE CHARM (13) 13. TUBEWAY ARMY (11) 14. OUTLAND (14) 15. MACHINE AND SOUL (16) 16. THE PLAN 1978 - CD (15) The current favourite songs on my poll are: 1. Are "Friends" Electric ? 2. My Breathing 3. Down in the Park 4. Bleed 5. Cars 6. Metal 7. Films 8. Tracks 9. Noise Noise 10. A Child With The Ghost 11. Complex 12. Remind Me To Smile 13. Dark 14. Me! I Disconnect from You 15. The Seed of a Lie 16. Everyday I Die 17. God Only Knows 18. The Secret 19. I Dream of Wires 20. This Is My House The least favourite song in my poll is: The Need !!! A full oist can be seen at Vote now if you havent already >Alright, to spice things up, and if it's not inappropriate, which Numan album >or song (if you're into quickies) have you or would you like to have sex to? >Make it funny if you like. It's stupid, but a good giggle is what we all need. >Hopey (enjoying single life, but wishing she'd meet a guy into Numan!!!!) Oh I guess any one of My Breathing, Noise Noise, Tricks, Magic, Please Push No More, My Love Is A Liquid, or of course, The Iceman Comes >What >did I see, about 10 copies of Pleasure Principle CD, the one reissued by >Beggars Banquet. Of course I was in shock, I put Cars on for my son, it >is one of his favorites. Only error on the card on the display by the >selections was that this was Gary's first album. Well, technically, and pedantically, it was... >Here' s a question though...has anybody been able to get hold of an >"Official" Pal video release" of "The Unborn"...all the normal sources are >saying it has only ever had US/Jap distribution..... I rented a PAL version out. Please don't bother. It has to be one of the top ten worst films I have ever seen... Andy McH ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:33:28 -0800 From: Subject: random musings To: Numan News Digest <> So it's taken me a couple of weeks to catch up with my email...there were a couple of things I thought I'd add my 2 cents to... The paperback version of PTTA can be ordered from<> Here's the info from my order: 1 copy of "Praying to the Aliens" Gary Numan, Steve Malins; Paperback; @ =A35.59 each (Available immediately) Will dispatch by: Air Mail Item(s) Subtotal: =A35.59 Delivery Charge: 4.95 ------- TOTAL DUE: =A310.54 It's kind of pricey, what with postage being almost as much as the book, but it was easier than running around trying to ask someone to order it for me. They take all forms of plastic money and the exchange rate is usually more favorable than trying to send a money order.(i live in California) Next thought-- I really enjoyed Troy Walters' thoughts on Gary and why he/we like his music, are drawn together by our love of his music, etc. I concur wholeheartedly. Before I had a computer, my only conduit for Numan information was one friend of mine who has been on this list for years. He and one other friend were the only people that I could even broach the subject of Gary Numan with... I really enjoy the personal stories shared with all of us on this list...thank you Derek and David for keeping it going. So, I here I am hoping to add to the content with my humble opinions. And finally Hopey asked: >Alright, to spice things up, and if it's not inappropriate, which Numan alb= um >or song (if you're into quickies) have you or would you like to have sex to= ? >Make it funny if you like. It's stupid, but a good giggle is what we all ne= ed. >Hopey (enjoying single life, but wishing she'd meet a guy into Numan!!!!) Great question...I agree, we need more sillyness in the world. I spent countless hours fantasizing to the sounds of Telekon and Replicas when I was a teenager with seriously raging and confused hormones. I was having sex, just not with anyone. ;-) ...and Exile is definitely a current favorite of mine... 'nuf said...I've rambled on a bit too long. Lisa ________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:18:57 -0800 From: (rod reynolds) Subject: Stop the reissues To: >Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:04:42 -0000 >From: "downstat" <> >Subject: Cleopatra reissues >To: "Gary Numan" <> >Is there really any market in the US for all these compilations - >Remodulate, The Mix, White Noise, Dark Light, etc.? >What next? A compilation of "mid-80s dreary instrumental b-sides"? A >compilation of collaborations and covers including London Times, Dadadang, >On >Broadway, Dollar, Bill Sharpe, 1999 and U got the look????? >The Beggars Banquet re-issues are excellent, as is the Numa Years box-set. >But everything else HAS GOT TO STOP!! >What would the SS fan make of The Fury album, - both musically and >visually?? It may of been appropriate to reissue The Fury in a few years >time when the reputation is established. But certainly not now. >Austin >London Hello. You've made some excellent points, which I do not dispute. As far as "everything else" stopping, it's not going to happen with Cleopatra. I don't have details on the deal they struck with Eagle/Numan but they do have the rights to the complete Numa catalog and have planned from day 1 to release them all in the US. I think for us fans it is hard to remember, but these albums have never been released in the US. I bought them one at a time as they were released originally, and have my favorites and lesser favorites, and a couple of them that I never liked much at all, but some of this material is truly amazing and I love and respect it in itself, in addition to the memories from when they initially came out. I love The Fury and Strange Charm and working with them now, some ten years later is an honor; listening to them endlessly, sequencing and choosing tracks and artwork is amazing, as I rediscover songs I loved and other tracks which I skipped over initially (ie most of the Berserker album). I take this project very seriously, and want it to be the best it possibly can be. I am thrilled to be a part of making this material available to anyone who may be interested, whether it be from the recent tour (which most have already forgotten about) or anything new. It is common that when a new album by an act is released, their back catalog sales rise, which is only natural due to media exposure, that people's interests are piqued regarding older material. I have lived in major cities most of my adult life and even then have had to struggle sometimes to get Numan material (even now with this Nicholson thing - can't seem to track that down). Imagine those who live in smaller areas being able to go into their local whatever store and have their pick of several domestic Numan cds! (of course with the internet the world is a much smaller place but you get the point (I hope)). I have paid sometimes ridiculous prices for my Numan fixes. Personally I am so not interested in live material and have never been. I never pushed for the live albums to come out at all, but they were so easy and quick to do (no bonus tracks or remastering etc) and Cleopatra wanted to release them to make a bit of a splash around the tour dates. They chose White Noise as it seemed to have the flashiest cover I think, then I chose Dark Light as I feel it has the best sound quality of the four double live sets. But I agree, "who cares"... Dream Corrosion is unlistenable in my opinion (I know others like it, however). As far as the extended Exile, I am a bit torn. While I think it would be confusing to the US marketplace to release it (to my memory I can't think of anyone EVER doing such a thing here before... ) and somewhat pointless, in another sense it really could be a promotional tool for the original album and the reissues... and could only serve to fan the flame of Numania in the States, and build up the 'new' album. I really enjoyed the extended Sacrifice and Fury albums, and the extended tracks that I have from Exile I quite like (did anyone else pick up the Japanese version of Exile with the extended "Angel Wars"? - 9:34 !!??) and can't wait to hear the rest. Realistically though, it will be a while before a *new* album becomes available. As a Numan fan I am quite accustomed to tracking down the UK albums (and singles) as they are released and paying whatever it takes to have a complete collection, so really don't have a problem with Extended Exile being available only as such. I consider the UK releases the originals anyway. Every digest I am reminded how impossible it is to please the hard core fans; people send me mail telling me how great the reissues are and thanking me and wishing for more, other people send me mail telling me how annoying the reissues are and wish they'd stop. Of course I don't have to buy the US releases that I am putting out, but as a fan, I think I would buy them, even though I have most of the material, and my aim in my professional capacity is to make those purchases worthwhile, and to give someone, somewhere a little pleasure. Bye for now, Rod Los Angeles ps The Collaborations and Covers idea is brilliant! Of course it can never happen (legally), as there are far too many labels and countries involved. I would love to see one though!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:07:38 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <> Subject: Unknown + Hostile To: I happen to really enjoy browsing through past digests (God, I should get a life :-) ) and I have noticed that Unknown+Hostile has been repeatedly complained about. Why? I happen to absolutely love the song. I'm defending it even more than I did with I Can't Stop. People often complain about the backing vocals on ICS, but U+H can't possibly be anywhere near as bad. Could it be that because it comes after My Breathing which the vast majority of Numanoids seem to LOVE,(including me) so whatever comes next is simply a return to reality? I think U+H is every bit as good as My Breathing! Let's see how far this "thread" goes. I'm probably risking my own safety here :-) James ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:02:26 -0700 From: "richard carter" <> Subject: what NUMAN song to do that thang to..... To: "gary numan digest" <> HOWDY !!!!!! KING RICHARD HERE.... hhhmmmm, what NUMAN song would you play while doing that thang????? well, I guess everyone will say WE TAKE MYSERY TO BED. I dont know... how about SHE'S GOT CLAWS? hehehehe. --------------------------------- "I hate to hear someone tell a dirty joke, unless it is by someone who knows how to tell it." -GROUCHO MARX --------------------------------- King Richard The Kingdom King Richard's 80's Musical Kingdom: Stay for dinner next time...we're having barbecued iguana! 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