Gary Numan Digest Thu, 17 Dec 98 Volume 1 : Issue 495 Today's Topics: a message to rod reynolds Australian Berserker Tour Australian Berserker Tour v2 Cars in EASTENDERS!!! Cars on Eastenders!! Cleopatra's "The Fury" Cleopatra news dreams Exile ext. sound quality Human & Numan/Sharpe Opinions In defense of Rod Information Intro versus '7' + question to Rod Reynolds IRS and four more BB re-issues! Knee cappings? Moving out of centrall New York, ya schmucks Nick Hadfield's general points Numan covers (2 msgs) Numan Music For Sale Please add me to the list SOTW South Park thank you ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 03:27:25 -0500 From: "laurabrown/aaronhannum" <scorbie@davidbowie.com> Subject: a message to rod reynolds To: "numan list" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> hello rod.=20 i'm the one who gave you a public bashing a few digests ago.=20 i must say that i wasn't aware you were on the digest as i delete most = of my=20 mail usually. i would have been a bit more sensitive and probably = emailed=20 you privately on the subject.=20 it's easier to talk behind someone's back than to their face.=20 i still stick to my guns on what i said but now realise that you're a = numan fan=20 and are doing your best.=20 perhaps in the future you could consult fellow list members on new = releases=20 and potential problems you may be facing to help make numan's US product = a little more presentable.=20 aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:04:25 -0800 From: theartdept@att.net (rod reynolds) Subject: Australian Berserker Tour To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello. I posted a few digests ago about the photos that I have featured in the artwork for the upcoming Berserker re-issue on Cleopatra, saying they were from the Australian Berserker tour. What happened was I got the photos from someone in Australia (from this list, actually) who saw the post and corrected me. The photos were taken on the 1984 Berserker tour at the Edinburgh Playhouse in England by Dale Seaton. Sorry for the confusion (ie mine). Best wishes, Rod Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:23:45 -0800 From: theartdept@att.net (rod reynolds) Subject: Australian Berserker Tour v2 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello. I stand corrected yet again... Edinburgh, Scotland. (now you know why I'm an artist and not a geographer). Best wishes, Rod Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:59:23 -0000 From: "Stuart Hamilton" <hamiltonstuart@email.msn.com> Subject: Cars in EASTENDERS!!! To: <numan@cs.uwp.edu> "Cars" was playing in the cafe of EASTENDERS, BBC1 on Tuesday night!!! Not quite sure if that's an early Christmas present or a bad omen.....! S.H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:25:51 -0000 From: "Andrew West" <andy@donut.co.uk> Subject: Cars on Eastenders!! To: "Numan Digest" <Numan@cs.uwp.edu> Dear all Did any of you UK digesters hear "CARS" being played on the radio in the cafe on Eastenders on Tuesday? For all you peeps who do not know what Eastenders is......well it's probably the most popular soap on UK tv. Infact i think it's one of the most watched programs on British tv so that's about the most exposure Gary has got in a long time! bye for now Andy West Donut Design 0181-660 4531 http://www.donut.co.uk http://www.city2000.com/bu/donut-design.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:57:21 PST From: "James Choma" <jchom@hotmail.com> Subject: Cleopatra's "The Fury" To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I have to admit, the cover work is a let down (resembling a poor color photocopy), but I find the CD sounds better than my UK import. Plus the addition of "The Fear '95," "Anthem," "I Still Remember '12," and "Tribal" make it worth the purchase. I hope when Cleopatra's "Strange Charm" comes out, Rod is able to find a few more photos. I found the "art" on the original to be lacking. Jim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:29:59 -0800 From: theartdept@att.net (rod reynolds) Subject: Cleopatra news To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello. I turned in the artwork and master disc for Berserker to the label this afternoon. I don't know exactly when it will be released yet. It has four bonus tracks; Berserker extended 6:47, Empty Bed, Empty Heart 3:12, My Dying Machine extended 9:23 and Here Am I 5:46. In my opinion a tad boring but what can I do. Gary told me directly not to use the unreleased bonus tracks I wanted to use, even when the label had said to go ahead. Plus I had to keep the cd under 74 minutes. The album is remastered and sounds terrific. Cleopatra is planning on releasing Extended Exile in the US in the new year. I asked about the other two live albums, and suggested releasing Ghost. I was told to finish the studio albums first, and then do the live ones. So next up: Strange Charm. Bye for now, More news as it happens. Rod Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:48:13 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: dreams To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Last night I dreamt that that Numan rubbed those stupid Spice Girls' noses in it by beating them to Christmas #1. The most remarkable thing was the song it was , nothing Christmassy or anything, or not even a new track- it was "Cold Warning" all of 14 years old! Well, back to reality! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- "And Ralf Schumacher is the son of double world champion, Michael Schumacher Murray Walker, 1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:32:54 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: Exile ext. sound quality To: numan@cs.uwp.edu When I said that it wasn't very good all I meant it was quiter than the regular and had to crank up the volume. It's better than Dream Corrosion though! Maybe I've been too used to listening to digital remasters-and been spoilt :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- "And Ralf Schumacher is the son of double world champion, Michael Schumacher Murray Walker, 1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:51:51 PST From: "James Choma" <jchom@hotmail.com> Subject: Human & Numan/Sharpe Opinions To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi, I'm trying to locate copies of "Human" and "Numan/Sharpe" on CD. Are they available anywhere? I'd also like to hear any comments on either of these two albums to determine if they are worth seeking out. Thanks! Jim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:58:23 -0500 From: "Michael J. Damrath" <damrat@earthlink.net> Subject: In defense of Rod To: Gary Numan <numan@cs.uwp.edu> As a ten year veteran of graphics design and prepress, I feel compelled to come to Rod Reynolds defense. If you have never worked in an ad agency, or in the art department of a corporate marketing firm, you have absolutely no idea what it is like to walk the tightrope of good design over the pits of fire that make up the demands of marketing reps, account execs, and - worst of all - the manufacturing CEO (in this case Numan himself). It sounds to me that Rod has quite a number of higher-ups above him making 'suggestions' and having veto-authority of what he creates. Imagine if you will, trying to please all of these other more powerful people, often pulling in decidedly differing directions, while working with existing graphics and, from the sound of it, little to no help obtaining the original transparencies or other original art. Even though he is in, IMHO, a dream situation (I would KILL to be in his position), it sounds equivalent to becoming Elle Macpherson's personal sauna attendant and finding out you have to hold the steaming hot lava rocks the whole time you're in there. Everything considered, Rod should be applauded for doing a great job. There's nothing like making a little chicken salad out of chicken shit. Mike Damrath damrat@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~damrat ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:54:23 -0000 From: "Stephen Slater" <stephen.slater@virgin.net> Subject: Information To: <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Hi, Here goes, I have been a Numan fan since 1979 when "Are friends Electric" broke into the British charts and have never looked back. At the young age of 34 now I have a excellent range of rare records of both singles and albums which I treasure. Back in 1985 my friend and I looked after Beryl picking her up from Manchester Airport as she agreed to attend the disco which was a terrific position to be in as extra tickets were sold for the night. We were holding a charity disco in Altrincham which is about 9 miles from Manchester and Beryl brought some raffle prizes along like Warriors 7 inch picture disc and a spot light from one of Garys planes, the night went very smooth and made about £300 for a local charity. I also met Peter Gilbert and Frank Drake that night who to this day have become good friends of my family now. Infact my son Damien aged 11 nearly knows all his songs and my daughter Nikita aged 8 is working hard on catching him up infact Niki's farvorite song is "Down in the Park". I was abit disappointed finding out the only tour this year was a one off in London and Gary has a very big following here in Manchester. hopefully next year Gary will make it up fingers crossed. Unfortunately I don't play any instruments however I mime with a hair brush as my mircophone and pretend I am on stage will we can all dream. My over favorite artist is Jean Michel Jarre which I was luckly to see him play at Maine Road back in 1995 or 1996 cant be to sure. I guess over all I have a very wide range of music that I enjoy but there is only one great.............Numan. I will leave for now, keep the great work up team Take Care from Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:30:29 +0100 From: "joeri" <joeri@planetinternet.be> Subject: Intro versus '7' + question to Rod Reynolds To: "Gary Numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Hi, Has anyone noticed the intro Gary Numan was using during the European and US-tour is actually the intro from the movie 'seven'? For Rod Reynolds: It would be great to re-release 'Dream Corrosion' but not only remastered but remixed too! An album can sound much better if it is remixed by pro's. It should have been done too with 'Machine and Soul' and 'Sacrifice'. I don't think 'M&S' is that bad, more crunchy guitar, ... Isn't it strange that the old albums (1979-1988) sound MUCH better. Living Ornaments '79 is remixed and sounding absolutely brilliant. Give the bad sounding 'NUMA' albums the same treatment and make us all happy. Oh Rod, I appriciate all the work you are doing, great, thanks! Thanks for listening to comments from 'Numanfans'. I know you can't make everyone happy. But PLEASE re-release 'Dream corrosion' remixed. Thanks again Joeri Peeters Belgium The Gary Numan Site from Belgium http://home.planetinternet.be/~joeri/prophecy.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:20:29 -0800 From: theartdept@att.net (rod reynolds) Subject: IRS and four more BB re-issues! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello. I just got my Numan Newsletter 56/57, and in it Gary says that BB are working on the next set of remasters "Dance, I Assassin, Warriors and possibly the Plan" and that Capitol is going to release the three IRS cds "Metal Rhythm, Outland and the Skin Mechanic". He says there's no hard details as yet; it is possible that the Capitol cds might only be issued in the UK!?? On his website he says all these titles will also be available through the fan club. Just wanted to pass the great information along. Best wishes Rod Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:01:48 -0000 From: "Phil Marsh" <phil.marsh@ndirect.co.uk> Subject: Knee cappings? To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Nick Hadfield wrote > Finally, what happened to Danny Turner? Has someone > knee-capped him? Well it wasn't me - if anybody did, I'd probably buy them a drink though... :-) Bit silly running a service selling illegal stuff from your work email address...just inviting someone to email their sysadmin and land him in all kinds of do do... Actually, though, Nick - I wondered about the Nu-shop (or whatever its called) - I just assumed Gemma was helping Gary's mum, and maybe they'd call in extra help when required. I can't believe they'd be daft enough to take on all that work without the manpower to back it up...perish the thought... ;-) Bye for now Phil (phil.marsh@ndirect.co.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:19:07 -0000 From: "Alan Stewart" <Valerium@downstat.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Moving out of centrall To: <numan@cs.uwp.edu> Formerly Valerium@aol.com, The time has come to save myself over =A3200 = per year and move on to the free isp. My new email address is valerium@downstat.freeserve.co.uk Hey Sis, if your around, send me an email so I know you are ok and for = goodness sake get icq. Be well my friends V ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:05:54 +0000 From: Tom Gorham <jargon@easynet.co.uk> Subject: New York, ya schmucks To: "Gary Numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> I was in New York last weekend, and I noticed a couple of things; 1) Walked into Tower records at the bottom of broadway and saw remodulate on sale. I thought the cover art was fine, so whoever has been moaning about it might just be a leeetle jealous. 2) From there up to some sort of posy interior design/clothes shop which was playing the usual ambient techno. But just as I was walking around, on came 'Complex'. That was good enough, but they followed it by 'Stormtrooper in Drag' and then 'Warriors'. I haven't heard Numan on a shop's soundtrack for almost 10 years, so to hear it by chance in the Big Bagel was quite a coincidence! Regards Tom Gorham ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:05:55 +0000 From: Tom Gorham <jargon@easynet.co.uk> Subject: Nick Hadfield's general points To: "Gary Numan" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> > I see the NU Street store has finally opened. Although this has to be welcomed, what other > star has to work on their own ordering service? > Eagle are certainly getting a good deal from Gary. As well as all the administrative stuff > he does for them, they haven't even got to sell Exile Extended themselves > or arrange distribution! I think you should blame Gary, rather than Eagle. For a start, both Eagle and Cleopatra only seem interested in Numan's back catalogue. If Gary hasn't realised this by now, he has only himself to blame. Of course Gary should pass on some responsibilities to others, but sadly it's part of his make-up that he feels he has to do everything. It would be great if Numan collaborated a bit more in all aspects of his work (did he even build his new studio himself?) Regards Tom Gorham ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:06:08 +1100 From: "E. Bunce" <roganjosh@bigpond.com> Subject: Numan Covers To: <numan@cs.uwp.edu> My candidate for the least appropriate song to be covered by Gary is: Fade to Grey Kind of a shame really, he'd probably do a good job... ;-) Has anybody ordered & received Extended Exile or Numan/Nicholson from Sister Ray yet? I ordered both on-line a few weeks back but haven't heard anything yet. I suspect they're holding on to Exile until N/N materialises which concerns me a tad. E. Bunce ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:41:50 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: Numan covers To: numan@cs.uwp.edu How about "Gary Numan sings The Spice Girls" "Gary Numan sings 5ive" "GN sings The Wurzels" "GN sings ABBA" :-) Or about more Prince- "1999" and "U Got the Look" aren't THAT bad-it could have been worse- imagine "Gett Off" or "Sexy MF"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- "And Ralf Schumacher is the son of double world champion, Michael Schumacher Murray Walker, 1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:22:49 EST From: kf9ug@leogate.kf9ug.ampr.org Subject: Numan Music For Sale To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I have many Gary Numan CDs and one cassette for sale. See http://mikeday.rexnet.net/kf9ug/music/gnuman/sales.html for a list of the material I have for sale. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- God Bless! 73 de Michael KF9UG Email... kf9ug@kf9ug.rexnet.net OR kf9ug@leogate.kf9ug.ampr.org Ham Packet: KF9UG@KF9UG.#NIN.IN.USA.NOAM FWARIG Website: http://mikeday/rexnet.net/kf9ug/gateway/ TELNET or FTP to FWARIG: kf9ug.rexnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:06:25 -0000 From: "Smith and Bolas" <asylum@telinco.co.uk> Subject: Please add me to the list To: "Numan Digest" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 03:26:10 -0700 From: "Joey Lindstrom" <joey@lindstrom.com> Subject: SOTW To: "numan@cs.uwp.edu" <numan@cs.uwp.edu> The Song Of The Week for December 16th is: "The Image Is" Nominated by Scott Williams of Coventry City, England http://www.interocitor.net/worldwidewebb/ / From Joey Lindstrom joey@lindstrom.com / Interocitor Dot Net http://www.interocitor.net / / To my mind a bargain is something I need at a price I can afford. / -- Robert Heinlein, "Travels" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:48:05 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" <James.Chapman@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: South Park To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hey, for a Christmas project, how about "South Park does Gary Numan", with the following setlist Kenny: Everyday I Die (but *NOT* I Die:You Die :-) ) Cartman: Hunger Stan: This Disease (he's alway's being sick!) Kyle: A Question of Faith (his family is religious) Chef: Desire Mr Garrison and Mr Hat: Puppets Stan's Grandpa: Time To Die Wendy: Devious Cartman on the Halloween eposide: A Child With The Ghost! The whole town's population on "Mecha Streisand": This Wreckage! OK, I'm getting a bit silly now :-) Anyone else got any suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- "And Ralf Schumacher is the son of double world champion, Michael Schumacher Murray Walker, 1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:07:41 EST From: TELEKON@aol.com Subject: thank you ! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu I just wanted to take the time to thank all the great people who keep up these great numan web pages----giving us the info we could never get other wise!!! these people have a life...they have a job and yet they take time out to scan in photos,interveiws and things--well thank you!!! Ijust want you guys to know your doing a hell of a job!!!!!!! chuck ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ******************************