Gary Numan Digest Sun, 14 Feb 99 Volume 1 : Issue 512 Today's Topics: Dance Dance, video format's, album lists etc. Exile Live album Gary Numan Digest V1 #511 Incoming! more bollox from Moscow My Brother's Time My wiegh in on Dance new email NTFLT Random replies Random replies 2 The Man Who Dies Every Day The New Bible of Dating . . . (x11) The New Bible of Dating . . . . (x11) Top Tens, and Mick Karn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:53:12 +0000 From: Tom Gorham Subject: Dance To: "Gary Numan" I've lived all these years wondering if I was kinda weird in thinking that Dance was Numan's best album. I've only got it on cassette (three copies thanks to over zealous relatives circa Xmas 1981), but all the talk about Slowcar to China and Cry the Clock Said (in my book the only time Numan wrote some really decent lyrics), got me down to my local record shop hunting for the CD. Tom Gorham www.ybmag.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:05:50 -0000 From: "GaryH" Subject: Dance, video format's, album lists etc. To: What a surprise this album was when it was launched. I remember going to Dunne & Co (Hat company in the UK) and buying an exact replica of Gary's trilby, a zoot suit in grey pinstripe and almost an exact match of the shoes he wore on the album cover and to round it off a neat little gold broach with Pearls on it. Me, Simon, Dave Hall and half a dozen female Numanoids wandering around Bolton and Manchester dressed like extras from an early 80's gangster movie :-) Not exactly the best thing any of us did looking back and knowing the area's we wandered around like that in I can now look back and smile nervously :-) The album was an extremely brave move for Gary and for me probably his best album up until Exile (Although the two are hardly comparable I suppose). For me Dance was what made Gary Numan so interesting. Forget the trends, the marketplace. Just put out what is right for you at the time. FUCKING stonking album Dance, and I hated Funk and Level 42 type stuff (Lot of reviews around the time compared these areas with Dance) but this was something else. NTFLT - Great track. I like it those that don't, that's cool. No need to slate anyone for not liking it. (Twonks) :-) James C, go for PAL. Not the tinned variety of course the video format. It's a shame Betamax died a death as the best quality video of Gary's I have is the "Touring Principle" on Betamax Format. Fortunately I still have a good Beta player. Listing of fave albums. Booooring, sorry guys and gals but I hate it, I can't be arsed reading them, it's personal to you and irrelevant to me. I skip these on the digest and have probably missed other interesting stuff in your posts because of it. Gary put together a list once of his fave's but hated doing it and later on started to refuse to do this further. Interesting though that James got a tremendous response from others who obviously enjoyed compiling their lists but I wonder how many actually read other fans compilations? Bootlegs (Or interesting recordings I prefer to call them). Has anyone got a comprehensive list of audio tapes and videos that they could/would be willing to e-mail me. Not too worried if you only have a list of 10, 20 items but more comprehensive stuff will help if possible. Please would you e-mail them to Gary@g-hough.prestel.co.uk (Many Thanks) Regards for now Gary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:25:09 -0800 From: theartdept@att.net (rod reynolds) Subject: Exile Live album To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello. Cleopatra recorded the (May 19, 1998) L.A. show on digital video tape. I saw some of it at the office and the sound and picture quality was amazing. At the time, they were considering releasing it as a home video and/or live album. They released a clip of Down in the Park with Marilyn Manson to MTV (??!!!) who aired it, subsequently causing Manson's management to freak. At the time, Marilyn's new album was still several months away from being released. Still not sure the *exact* reason, but they vowed to sue if the footage ever saw the light of day. Cleo management didn't want to release the video without the Manson appearance and decided to wait until the storm blew over. Meanwhile, they discovered that one of the tapes had irreparable damage on the sound track, thus ruling out a live album and probably video release. I have asked several times (ie how about releasing what is there, how much is damaged, anything give me anything...) but it appears to be a dead issue. Sadly. They get tired of me bugging them about Numan things. Rod Los Angeles >Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:30:27 GMT0BST >From: "James Chapman" >Subject: Live albums >To: numan@cs.uwp.edu > Another thing about live albums, is aren't we due another one? >It's been 4 years since the last one which is about the norm for gaps >between live albums. I believe there was one of the concerts from the >US tour recorded so how about that being released, Rod? I have a >bootleg from the US tour, and I reckon it could be one of the best >live albums if it's mixed properly. It probably wouldn't be as good >as "White Noise" though :-) >James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 99 1:34:13 CDT From: newlands@mercury.bact.wisc.edu Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #511 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu This is an automated message from the Mercury Mail Transport System. ************************************************ I will be away until Friday, February 12th. I will try to check my email daily but may not be able to. You may try to reach me on the departmental cell phone at 608-219-6501 but I can't guarantee that I will be reachable. Janet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:22:09 EST From: SomaCrow@aol.com Subject: Incoming! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu On coming: The French "petite mort" is nothing more than a slang term for "orgasm," just as "little death" is here (although it's a bit antiquated)... if it is a French slang term at all. I don't particularly wish to ask my French teacher about it. "Orgasm" in French is....... "orgasme." (masculine noun) The verb for "to have an orgasm" is "jouir," which also means "to enjoy." I think that makes sense :-) This verb also spawns another term for "orgasm," the feminine noun "jouissance." There is an Alternative French Dictionary at http://www.notam.uio.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/French.html which may have further terms on this subject, as it is a very naughty dictionnaire. "Petite mort" is not in it. My 2 centimes. -Riana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:38:35 +0300 From: "Peter Enright" Subject: more bollox from Moscow To: "Digest Numan" Ahem, A short note to rod reynolds: Gaz's "Warriors" costume was most definitely inspired by Australia's very own leather-clad road warrior Mad Max (Mel Gibson) movies and I think this was before the release of Blade Runner. Just so you know ... I still reckon some of the Numan album covers would make great framed posters. I suggest: Replicas (of course) The Pleasure Principle Dance I, Assassin Berserker Isolate I think many Numanoids would save up their pennies and purchase these for their bedroom walls. What do you think? Any chance you can start a poster business on the side Rod? To my knowledge Numan's own site is not selling these. Just an idea. BTW I thought that orgasm in French was "le cum" ... TikTokMan A proud member of "Members Like Us" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:32:37 -0800 From: Pythoness Subject: My Brother's Time To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Having waved my opinion about Strange Charm around, I'll join the nattering about Dance. Now, my one real-life Numanoid friend LOVES Dance and we played a couple of the tracks off of it (neither one was one of my favorites) on bass & guitar until I was almost ready to smash the CD--however, I do think it's a neat album. It's not one of my favorites--at the time it seemed rather derivative (primarily of Japan, which was a group I fancied) and too consciously orchestrated, resulting in merely doing something else other people were doing, and I Liked The Earlier Stuff Better. Besides which, I do find the album a wee bit depressing, but that's not because of the content but because of what was going on when it came out, and can't be said to be Gary's fault, eh? Now--I think it's an amazing work and *very* well-crafted, and has some of THE best lyrics. My top fave off the album is the evil "My Brother's Time," followed neck and neck by "Moral" and "Cry the Clock Said." "Slowcar" is a wonderful song, too, but it's one of those I find terribly depressing. The heavy slow guitar and ponderous intro to "Moral" is one of Gary's first of that kind which we're still hearing today, like a very large machine gathering steam, though the intros became so long at times that they might well be classed as entirely different songs. Now. I've heard a lot of different interpretations of "My Brother's Time" over the eons, but not the one that I have, which is, to wit, ahem--that it's a song about the narrator and his brother sleeping with the same prostitute. Well? zg Ziggy Blum Ziggy's House O' Vermin zigi@ravenland.com http://www.ravenland.com/index.htm/index.htm Updates delayed by procrastination! Check back eventually! --------------------------- The greatest insult that can be offered to a man, comme il faut, is to seize him by the Cravat; in this case blood can only wash out the stain upon the honour of either party. --H. LeBlanc, "The Art of Tying the Cravat" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:14:25 -0800 From: Robert Trousdale Subject: My wiegh in on Dance To: Gary Numan Well, let's see, where do I start... It was the fall of 1981. I had just discovered Gary that summer when I heard "Cars" for the first time and had to have the Pleasure Principle. I'm in New York City for the first and so far only time, when I see the tape of Dance in the new releases section. Only later would I realize that most of Numan's albums were released in the fall... until recently that is... ANYWAY. Dance was my second Numan album. Having not had the "transition" album of Telekon to listen to, I was rather shocked by the stylistic change... On TPP, we have the broad sweeping BIG analog Synth sound, Dance is well... far more eclectic. But you know what? I liked it! At that point, I figured, if I liked both Dance and TPP, I would probably like anything Numan put out. And I was right, at least so far :-) Dance Blow by Blow: Slowcar to China: This song is my all time favorite slow Numan song. I love the sliding bass throughout the album first introduced here... wow. Night Talk: A kick ass song, I suppose don't you? (yes I know that line is from Slowcar :-) I especially love that low synth used to accent the bass line... Subway Called You: One of the first indications, to me at least, that Numan could write songs that really made the hair on my neck stand up, not that the words are especially dark, but the whole atmosphere of the song is just... well, creepy sorta. I think Numan was hearing the same muse when he wrote "My Breathing" Cry The Clock Said: Um, actually, I don't like this song much. One of the few Numan songs that is an Auto Skip for me. She's Got Claws: WOW! Funking Cool! Almost wish Gary had done a pure Funk album (shudder the door indeed :-) Crash: One of two songs on this album that reminded me of TPP. I liked all of TPP, so natch, I liked this one too... I don't know what Gary does to his guitar here, but I bet it was pissed at him after the song was recorded :-) Boys Like Me: I found the italian female singer a neat little gadget that truly compliments the story of this song. And boy is that bass line infectious! Stories: A nice little story song with one of the catchiest riffs in any Numan song. Could almost have been a pop song? Eh, maybe not. My Brother's Time: Another song I am not very fond of... but not an Auto Skip, Way to base an entire song around a standard piano scale Gary! Cool! You Are You Are: A faster song than any of the others on the album, and one I always have to turn up so loud I bleed my ears... Moral: The other song that reminds me of TPP, for obvious reasons, I actually thought for a short while (until I got my third album) that maybe Gary had a "Metal / Moral" like song on ALL of his albums... that might have been a neat idea, but only in theory :-) Overall, quite a different album from my first, but once I got Telekon, it was farily obvious to me how Numan got from TPP to Dance, and when I Assassin was released the following year, I could see the natural Progression there too... To me, Numan's albums generally fall into two catagories: Style builders and Whoa Where did that come from? So, The Plan, Tubway Army, those are Style Builders... Replicas and TPP, are WWDTCF? Telekon, Dance, I Assassin, Warriors, there is a natural progression to these albums, Berserker? WWDTCF? The Fury and Strange Charm built on the flaws and successes of Berserker. Metal Rhythm? WWDTCF? Outland? WHAT WAS HE THINKING??? Machine and Soul? Built on Outland, and improved on it I think. Sacrifice, Exile... Take out everything between Telekon and M&S, you might find a progression there. Eh, that's enough bait for one month :-) -Escher Not a Boy like Us, my wife would kill me :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:33:56 +0000 (BST) From: Jackie Taylor Subject: new email To: numan@cs.uwp.edu please send me the digest at my new address. new address jackie.taylor@dtn.ntl.com old address brooke.shields@netchannel.co.uk Jackie Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:27:28 -0500 From: Matthew Roberts Subject: NTFLT To: Gary Numan Rod, I believe the version of NTFLT on Strange Charm is just the single versio= n, slightly rejigged by Gary - no re-recording or remix to speak of. The lyrics (and therefore the vocals) are the only real change. I believe it only appeared on the LP because Gary didn't have enough song= s at the time, rather like U Got The Look on Machine & Soul (which was recorded long before, at IRS's urging). Writing new lyrics for NTFLT was the best that Gary could manage in the absence of a proper song. Even then, they were definitely of the Numan "c= ut and paste" variety. Having said that, I would guess NTFLT was Gary's favourite Sharpe & Numan= single, as it's certainly the darkest. Shame it was released on Numa :-( As a whole, I think the Sharpe & Numan era is something Gary would rather= forget, apart from the cash. Now who remembers "Love Like A Ghost"? Matthew Roberts ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:45:27 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" Subject: Random replies To: numan@cs.uwp.edu After my comments about Dance in #510, it would seem as though I'm public enemy no. 1- well, not quite but it seems as though a lot are opposed to my views. > From: newcombg4@mindspring.com > I don't really understand how a comparison of Dance and Strange Charm came > up! Yes, Dance is better than Strange Charm. In YOUR opinion, it is! IMHO, Dance is Numan's best > album, and though I thoroughly enjoy Strange Charm, it isn't even in my > Numan top ten. (In fact, I consider the albums up to Dance, including "The > Plan", to be a different breed than all the subsequent albums, and I like > the first breed better, so the first five albums plus The Plan are > automatically my top six Numan albums.) > Well, you're deluding yourself :-). There's also NO WAY that The Plan is better than Berserker, The Fury and Strange Charm. I can't do with that punky guitar. That's the only album I don't have much interest in. > I think of Dance as a major breakthrough for Numan, a lot of Numan > trademarks appear for the first time on this album, for example the > doppler-type sounds, and the glossolalic, lyric defying singing. > One thing IS the vocals - the difference between Telekon and Dance was amazing- I must say I love Gary's voice slurring although it's put to best effect on I, Assassin IMO. > As to the "incoherency", remember that Dance was originally an LP, with the > four "ambient" tracks being side one and the rest side two. A lot of > all-time great albums are also "incoherent" in this sense, like Bowie's > Heroes and Low, and Remain in Light, by the Talking Heads. All of these > albums, including Dance, manage to make a coherent statement somehow > paradoxically because of the stylistic differences between the two sides. > The track sequencing on CDs, particularly in the case of Dance, tends to > destroy the album as a complete statement by the inclusion of bonus tracks > and the omission of album tracks. > From: VinceH > James Chapman wrote:- > > > What I thought about this incoherent thing was - has nobody thought > > that Dance is incoherent? > > Dance has its own consistency throughout, in terms of the music (but > some tracks - eg SgC - stand out phenominally from the rest so as to > make that inconsistency hard to see. How I would describe it is as the > /least accessible/ of the Numan albums. I am certainly glad that it > wasn't one of the first/earlier ones that I bought because it might > well have been enough to put me off Numan[1] - and had that happened, > I'd have missed Sacrifice and Exile. EEEEEEK!!! > Well, I HATED it at first with the exception of 2 or 3 tracks, but the first 4 tracks are big growers, I'll give them that much. > > I don't think I've really got "Cry, the Clock Said" - I LOVE the > > second half where Gary is singing, but the first five minutes bore > > the hell out of me. Unless I'm listening to it in the dark, of > > course. > > I agree totally - I'd add that I could hardly listen to it at all on > vinyl, due to the slight background noise; it was an old 2nd hand copy, > after all. It is much easier, I find, on CD. > An amusing story I have about that song is when I bought Tubeway Army/ Dance double pack, my hi-fi was on the blink so I put it on my flatmate's hi-fi and cranked up the volume while I cooked dinner. "A Subway Called You" finished and then I couldn't hear anything! I thought the disc was knackered but it was just very quiet. > > "My Brothers Time" is an awful dirge, > > Hmm.. I think I'd have to say that's my favorite track on Dance! > Unfortunately, it's one of 3 Numan songs that automatically make me reach for the FF button. "Emotion" and "Telekon", which is just as dirgey are the other two. > > Oh.. as I scan through digest 509, I see:- > > James Chapman (gosh you pop up a lot! :-) says:- > Yep! I just enjoy contributing a lot, that's all. > Indeed. That'll have been the backing vocalist, of course (I guess) but > another thing which works in a similar way are sound samples; he used > a lot (or rather "a *LOT*") on Outland, for example, and I reckon they > add a whole different layer of atmosphere to the album. I wonder how it > would have sounded without them... > I think the sound samples on that album are really quite cool, but I wish Gary didn't submerge his voice in female vocals- there ain't much of Gary singing alone on the album. I reckon it could have been excellent if it had goneout the way Gary wanted it, but the over-production gets a little bit annoying sometimes- WAY too much perscussion. Take for example "Soul Protection" the piece on Human that became that song is great, but I reckon it should have been that track, Gary singing and the odd sample. Cut the annoying, sax please. The sax made some songs from the 80s, but not here. It has more consistency than Dance - it's just less listenable, that's all :-) > From: "Craig MacNeil" So, when I put > it on, I enjoyed it, but I was also confused by the overall style {st > first}, and also tried to figure out why a single album was so long. > Didn't this come out on one lp? Why does it say 1991 on the back, and > other mysteries. The CD were the extended mixes, 6 of the 9 songs were longer than the vinyl version. Much for the beter as well, I'd say. It's one of my fave Numan albums.The 1991 on the back is when it became available through the fan club on CD but didn't get general release till 1995. Very confusing for someone who doesn't know the full story. Anyone browsing wwould maybe think it wwas actually recorded in 1991 and may be put off it as aresult of thinking it's in the same mould as Outland or M+S. NUMACD 1001 is the 1995 reissue, the fan club issue is very rare. > To reply to the person about "Dance" being incoherent, I just > listened to it again, and although I can see your point, I always feel > moved listening from back to front, because it all has some kind of > thread running through - I can't say what, but I can feel it. Also, > wouldn't it drive you nuts if all the tunes were like "you are you are" > or "moral"? Not me! Add in We Are Glass, I'm An Agent, I Die:You Die, Crash....marvellous! > > > James also added - > >What I thought about this incoherent thing was - has nobody thought > >that Dance is incoherent? > > I always thought Dance was fantastic, myself. I like side 1 the best, and I > *love* Cry, the clock said, that song is hypnotic. 'There's nothing much to > keep us alive but "Dance"' is a great line. I do think as a whole, 'dance' > isn't incoherant, every song on there sounds like a 'Dance' song. What's > the problem with 'My Brother's Time? The problem is, Antonio, is that I find it unlistenable. That clock percussion bugs the hell out of me. It's so damn slow, it's funeral. :-) Give me New Thing From London Town anyday :-) James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:52:37 GMT0BST From: "James Chapman" Subject: Random replies 2 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Sorry, I had to do this sepately because the whole thing wouldn't load in the reply field. > From: Kenneth.ZAZULA@st.com > > Well, something had to do it....and it was James Chapman's message in > the last digest that forced me out of lurking mode. Nobody messes > with "Dance". > I haven't messed with it, just commented on it. If you want messing, talk to IRS about Metal Rhythm being turned into New Anger :-) > The horrifying revelation that I've had about what is by far my > favorite Numan album..period, is that he's right. Thank You !!! Someone who understands. I never said it was bad, just very mixed . Excpt the one song, that is. I find that it doesn't make the trip to the CD player as often as some less popular albums, like Strange Charm for instance :-) James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:57:49 -0800 From: errora@earthlink.net Subject: The Man Who Dies Every Day To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Every Day I Die I might assume was inspired by the Foxx-era Ultravox track, from ha!-ha!-ha!, called The Man Who Dies Every Day. I could be very, very wrong but it seems to me to be a no-brainer. I remember opening The Bible at random some 18 or so years ago and finding a verse saying something to the effect of, "Truly, I am the man who dies every day." ------------------------------ Date: 11 Feb 1999 18:22:55 -0800 From: "Our Publishing Comp." Subject: The New Bible of Dating . . . (x11) To: Women all over America have said, "Burn This Book!!!" 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Non-Numan: David Bowie - "Diamond Dogs" Roxy Music - "Stranded" Bauhaus - "Burning From The Inside" T.Rex - "The Slider" The Rocky Horror Picture Show Lou Reed - "Street Hassle" John Cale - "Helen of Troy" Brian Eno - "Taking Tiger Mountain {By Strategy}" Bryan Ferry - "Let's Stick Together" Robyn Hitchcock - "I Often Dream of Trains" and no.11 - Cheap Trick - "Cheap Trick" Top Numan cd's: "Dance" "The Pleasure Principle" "Berserker" "Telekon" "Tubeway Army" [not cuurrent issue, but the one with "Don't be a Dummy" on it} "I, Assassin" "Sacrifice" "Metal Rhythm" "Replicas" "Exile" At least that's the current selection. Eight months ago I was playing "Replicas" about three times a day, but I think I overdosed. SO...... Mick Karn - what happened between him and Gary? In one of the old "Ask Gary" segments, Gaz was asked about him, and apparently said something so nasty that Derek brought it to his attention, and Gaz withdrew the comment. I am an avid Japan fan as well as the Dali's Car album that Karn did with Peter Murphy, and I love gossip. Let me know. Have a lovely day folks, it's time for my tea. Craig ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ****************************** _______________________________________________________________________ _____ ____ ____ _____ _____ / \ | | / \ / \ / \ / \ | |-----| |-----| | |-----| |-----| | | | G | | A | | | R | | Y | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----| |-----| | |-----| |-----| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | N | E | W | S |=====| | | | | | | | & | | | | | | | \_____/ I | N | F | O | | | | is produced and distributed by Derek Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply to the messages in this list, mail to: numan@cs.uwp.edu If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, you can mail to numan-request@cs.uwp.edu ----------------- The Gary Numan Digest is brought to you via Datta Production and Development, 905 97th Street, Kenosha, WI 53143 USA datta@cs.uwp.edu and computer resources courtesy of University of Wisconsin-Parkside and Datta Production and Development. 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