Gary Numan Digest Thu, 10 Jun 99 Volume 1 : Issue 545 Today's Topics: Cleopatra's reissue of Berserker Finished! Forwarded Message Gary Numan Digest V1 #543 Gary Numan Digest V1 #544 My Pet Peeve (sorry) New e-mail NumanBoy is off to London Outland Samples Out of Office AutoReply: Gary Numan Digest V1 #544 Paul Gardiner and 'Night Talk' remove Strange Charm reissue The Numan Underground Tubeway T-shirt reproductions Zom-Zom's ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 06:17:21 -0500 From: Jeff Tolva Subject: Cleopatra's reissue of Berserker To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hi all, Can anyone please write to me with the catalog number of the recent Cleopatra release of the Berserker CD? Many thanks! Jeff Tolva (The Machman) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 10:38:47 GMT From: Danny T Subject: Finished! To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Gary Numan's next album will be drivel. He hasn't go a clue where he's going or what he's doing, that's why Eagle don't want another album off him. The production on Exile was appalling and in a technological age he hasn't got a clue how to use his equipment properly. He never programs his synths or experiments with sounds, and he lifts all of his drum loops from the same Sample CD's that everybody else is using (apart from the big acts who know better). Gary Numan never made a comeback because his last singles and albums never got anywhere. Has anyone compared Numan to the latest ground-breaking electronic acts such as Nine Inch Nails, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Front Line Assembly, Future Sound Of London, he is like a 5 year old with a casio compared to them. He really should just give up gracefully but because he is so greedy for money and success he will just embarass himself until his 50. Most 80's artists have given up, not attempted to hang on by their fingertips, only the truly talented have continued, like David Sylvian for example. An 80's icon, yet a shadow of the poncey poser of Japan, the man now creates wonderful uplifting music full of emotion, richness and intellectualism. Numan is a musical foetus in comparison. Lets face it, apart from the odd track, Gary was only ever good between 1979 and 1981, then after the farewell concerts he should have quit for good. He would be a legend. But no, he had to ruin it by producing appalling albums like Machine & Soul, soiling his past achievements. He writes exile and says its his best ever album, what crap. In 1979 Replicas was cutting edge, ahead of its time, awesome. In 1998 Exile was just a duff electro album by a has been once electro pioneer. I don't expect a single one of you on this digest to agree with what I've written because your all braindead. Living on past glorys, you've failed to move with the times, refused to widen your listening experience and take in different forms of music. Your just like a bunch of Status Quo or Gary Glitter fans, sad and sneered at. You'll stick by Numan until the bitter end, but in your heart you know he's crap. He's so embedded in your lives that if he left you would be unable to cope, your divorced from reality. Your trapped inside your stale minds. Get out! There's so much brilliant music out there, music you would enjoy if you weren't so biased and introspective. Get a life!! Looking forward to the childish, abusive backlash that is no doubt coming my way. They will simply justify my comments to the hilt. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:34:29 -0500 From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta) Subject: Forwarded Message To: numan On Jun 5, 7:40am, steven parrish wrote: } Subject: NZ Numan LP } From indigorecords@hotmail.com Sat Jun 5 09:39:45 1999 } X-Originating-IP: [194.223.136.11] } From: steven parrish } To: numan-request@cs.uwp.edu } Subject: NZ Numan LP } Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:40:34 PDT } } hi } > } I have the following gary numan lp for sale which is unique to New } Zealand and i wondered if I might advertise it in your Gary Numan Digest. } } >Gary Numan: Replicas (NZ Atlantic 600046) Unique g/fold sleeve w/insert £20 } > } >im not a shop by the way. this is a one off private sale. hoping you can } >help and thanx for your time } > } >steve. indigorecords@hotmail.com } } } ______________________________________________________ } Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com } }-- End of excerpt from steven parrish ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:07:13 +0100 From: "Andy Boucher" Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #543 To: "Gary Numan" , on the Micromusic ' video m8 ... It IS Paul playing ' She's got Claws ' ya can see him ... :) I've been reading the thread about Mick Karn / Paul Gardiner and fretted/fretless bass with a wry smile.... has nobody ever twigged that the band MIMED She's Got Claws and The Aircrash Bureau at Wembley? Numan sang sure enough but THAT's why Paul Gardiner was 'playing' fretless... Where do you think the sax came from? You might want to ask John Webb the same question about his 'live' performances. Note for note copies of Dick Morrisey - I don't think so! I feel better now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:01:55 +0200 From: "Jonathan" Subject: Gary Numan Digest V1 #544 To: "Gary Numan" Hello all, >Jonathan, you are right about the machines being in the park. The club Zom >Zoms, however, really caters to the few that are allowed out after curfew >to socialize (I think they were administrators or something). > >Cary Yes, I hoped I am right - and I didn't even have to look in a book for this. ;-) Your thought to see it as an act of socialisation is good. >Now I know y'all prolly field this one more than you like, BUT can >anyone tell me of a good lyrics page? Gary ain't 'xactly forthcoming >with his enunciation. 8) > >Armitage - sits in the corner where its reasonably quiet. Yes, of course. The website of the famous author "Jonathan Dilas". There you can find german and english lyrics and stories. Try http://home.muenster.net/~seth to take a look. :-) AND I am still searching for some sheet music, I mean music notes of some songs of Gary. Maybe someone of you has created such notes, because he's a good musican, a better one than me. I would be very glad. I am also ready to trade. Many greetings form germany Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:41:07 +0000 From: "Michael J. Damrath" Subject: My Pet Peeve (sorry) To: Gary Numan Tim Evans, not only did you make the cardinal error of quoting the entire freaking digest in your reply, YOU DID IT TWICE!! Aaaaaaaarrrrrgh! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 01:33:01 +0100 From: "ade.pitkin" Subject: New e-mail To: denzil at home , dc , as of 07/06/99 i shall be contactable on this new email address........Cheers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:32:32 +0100 From: "David Ellison" Subject: NumanBoy is off to London To: "Gary Numan Digest" Hi all Well I'm off to London and to the Numan Gig Saturday night. I will be at the Bull & Gate Pub before the show and probably the Tallyho, as well. Look for me in my "Silver N" Numan shirt. Pics will posted on the NumanBoy site within a week after my return to the States. I promise!!! 3 days til Numan!!!!! P.S. Don't forget to vote in the NumaVision Song Contest at the AFE site. http://www.afenet.com/ There's some great stuff there!! Cheers! David a.k.a. NumanBoy Proud Member Of Boys Like Us who are going to the Numan gig at the Forum in London www.numanboy.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:25:14 +0000 From: "Michael J. Damrath" Subject: Outland Samples To: Gary Numan Digest "Manitou" asked a question about Outland's samples. There are quite a variety of samples from movies on Outland. (I happen to love Gary's old habit of using film soundtrack sampling) Some of them are from the film 'Predator': In the song 'Outland' - "...You give up our position one more time. I'm gonna bleed you. Real quiet. Leave you here. Got that?!" is Bill Duke (Mac) talking to Carl Weathers (Dillon). Also the sample "Anytime!" is from when he plucks a scorpion off Weather's back. Gary seems to like Arnold Schwarzenegger movies because in the 'Intervals' he is using samples from 'Red Heat'. It's the scene where the head Russian Bad Guy named Viktor is explaining to Ahnold's character why he traffics drugs in Russia. In 'Interval 1' you're hearing him speak in Russian, in 'Interval 2' and '3' you get the english translation: "Without me, you don't even exist. The people have many needs. What is more important are their - entertainment". Gary goes back to his favorite movie for samples in 'From Russia Infected' - 'Bladerunner'. "The chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!" - the advertising blimp running an ad for the off-world colonies. And from the original "Terminator' - Michael Biehn's character "I'm Sargeant Reese Tech-Com [serial number] assigned to protect you.""Do you understand!!" followed by a Bladerunner gunshot sample. "The Terminator is an infiltration unit, part man, part machine..." etc. - more of 'The Terminator' and he ends the song with "These are new, they look human." Outland is riddled with them. Mostly samples from 'Terminator', 'Bladerunner' and 'Red Heat'. I love picking them out, mostly because Gary seems to be as big a film buff as I am and seems to have the same taste in movies as I do. Mike Damrath http://home.earthlink.net/~damrat ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:00:31 -0700 From: Ross Brown Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Gary Numan Digest V1 #544 To: numan@cs.uwp.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 12:10:19 +0000 From: "Michael J. Damrath" Subject: Paul Gardiner and 'Night Talk' To: Gary Numan Al (errora@earthlink.net) wrote: >> On Dance, Paul >> only played on Night Talk. >Dude! Where's my copy of Dance, damn it! I thought Gary played bass on >Night Talk!!! Al, I think you're both right. I always thought it was rather odd, but the musician's credits on 'Night Talk' have always stated that Paul Gardiner played GUITAR on that track and Gary played BASS. Near as I can tell 'Night Talk' and 'Stormtrooper in Drag' were Gary and Paul's last collaborations. Mike Damrath http://home.earthlink.net/`damrat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:15:17 EDT From: Tonyj999@aol.com Subject: remove To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Please remove me from list tony j ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:38:40 PDT From: roger smith Subject: Strange Charm reissue To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Hello all: Just picked up the 'Strange Charm' reissue on Cleo/Eagle CLP 0534-2. On the inside of the front cover is a pic. with Bill Sharpe and it is signed by both Numan&Sharpe. I have the 'NTFLT' 45 that is signed by both guys but it is not the same as this one is. I consider this on of my best gary items and I want to know more about it. I.E When and where it was signed and how many of these things there are out and about. Any info would be great. Cheers, Roger rog808numa@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 06:36:33 -0700 From: "Kristina Panos" Subject: The Numan Underground To: Greetings, fellow Numanoids! I founded a new Yahoo club! The URL is http://clubs.yahoo.com/thenumanunde= rground =20 I found only two other Numan clubs on Yahoo, one of which numanboy is a = member. I did not see any of the other diges persons, but perhaps I = ddin't look hard enough. Please join my club if you are interested; it's = got a chat room and a BBS! Reverend Kristina K. Panos Chairwoman of the Department of Redundancy Department US Senate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 05:18:24 -0700 From: "Kristina Panos" Subject: Tubeway T-shirt reproductions To: The lemonade kid wrote: Well apart from being a huge Numan fan myself, with over 70 gigs under my = belt, I also have access to screenprinting facilities..So if there are = enough people that want this style of shirt I will quite willingly get the templates and stencils made = up and create a non copyright infringing shirt!! However due to the artwork time and materials its only really economic... = (to keep the cost of a shirt at around 15 pounds), if I have atleast 20 = people who want one..otherwise it'll be silly money for just one or two!! So if you fancy a unique shirt then please respond as soon as possible. Yes! Yes! Yes! Would it be possible to ship to the U.S.? =20 Reverend Kristina K. Panos Chairwoman of the Department of Redundancy Department US Senate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 08:37:30 -0700 From: Pythoness Subject: Zom-Zom's To: numan@cs.uwp.edu Interesting to note that a friend of mine has some piece of merchandise (I sincerely don't remember what) from an eatery in NY called *Zum-Zum's*. Funny old world. The line "Did you know that friends come in boxes" from "MLIAL" is very likely lifted from an old SF short story called, well, "Friends Come in Boxes." Again I don't remember who wrote it. Don't think it was a Philip Dick story, though someone like that, but Gary and I seem to have read a lot of the same sci-fi in the '70's. At the time it seemed quite extraordinary--I suspect I thought it meant that I was mystically on the same wavelength or something. I distinctly remember when I heard that Tolkien was his favorite author at the time--he was mine, too, and neither Gary nor I looked the type--obviously we were meant to be together . Along the same lines, I can't help wondering if he's seen The Matrix and what he thought of it, since it immediately occurred to me that I hadn't seen such a good-looking SF film since Blade Runner (also it was fun to see cutting-edge 1980's science fiction hitting 1999's mainstream consciousness. Even the look was '80's--if Neo and Trinity had been wearing khaki-colored baggy trousers and saying "dude" every other word I would probably have left in the first eight minutes). Now old and crotchety, zg Ziggy Blum zigi@ravenland.com www.ravenland.com ___________________________ Standing on his right shoulder was a blue rat and standing on his left shoulder was a blue rat. The only way he knew they were there was by looking at them. --Carl Sandburg ------------------------------ End of Gary Numan Digest ****************************** _______________________________________________________________________ _____ ____ ____ _____ _____ / \ | | / \ / \ / \ / \ | |-----| |-----| | |-----| |-----| | | | G | | A | | | R | | Y | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----| |-----| | |-----| |-----| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | N | E | W | S |=====| | | | | | | | & | | | | | | | \_____/ I | N | F | O | | | | is produced and distributed by Derek Langsford dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply to the messages in this list, mail to: numan@cs.uwp.edu If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, you can mail to numan-request@cs.uwp.edu ----------------- The Gary Numan Digest is brought to you via Datta Production and Development, 905 97th Street, Kenosha, WI 53143 USA datta@cs.uwp.edu and computer resources courtesy of University of Wisconsin-Parkside and Datta Production and Development. 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