Gary Numan Digest Sun, 12 Nov 2000 Volume 2 : Issue 90 Today's Topics: "Pure" in the US record shops (no subject) a tour of the US? Beats Exile?? Bootlegs Christian Numan fans Fallen over Finding "Pure" in U.S. shops Gary and Jesus Re: Richard Gary Numan Digest V2 #89 (2 msgs) Gary on the Shelves November 7 ??? god Ivor Biggun Nu-Christians (2 msgs) Out of Office AutoReply: Gary Numan Digest V2 #89 PURE - Spitfire - An Alien Cure Pure sales... Pure sound files on the web? Religious Lyrics Some more pure thoughts The Search for PURE in the US TOWER RECORDS to the RESCUE!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 09 Nov 2000 22:14:08 -0800 From: "Mark R. Boyns" Subject: "Pure" in the US record shops To: digest@garynumanfan.nu numanboy@numanboy.com writes: > Anyone else, have the same experience? When Exile was released, the stores > were loaded with copies. Same here in San Diego. I called around and found a copy at Tower Records. Their computer said they had one copy, but they had to search for it in the back. After all that the $17.99 price didn't bother me too much. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:11:00 EST From: STUDMONKEYMAN@aol.com Subject: (no subject) To: digest@garynumanfan.nu --part1_81.2a4a587.273c34a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In response to Rawebleys' question " How do Christian Numan fans get their heads round Numan's blatant hatred towards God? Do you feel guilty for=20 listening to it. I like the sound very much but the lyrics I find very hard=20 to accept. " =A0I say the following; All throughout history mankind has=20 expressed his/her anger towards God in one form or another; The ulitimate=20 expression being the killing of Jesus himself.=20 =A0=A0=A0However, =A0I think that this anger is actually not truly directed=20= at God in=20 as=20 much as it is towards a false representation of what others have done in the= =20 name of God to achieve their own means. =A0Considering the history of mankin= d=20 and the atrocities committed in the name of God, it's no wonder God has=20 attained a bad reputation with some of us. =A0In my relationship with God I=20 express anger if I'm mad at him/her ( because God is actually both ) and the= n=20 apologize later if I feel the need. =A0God doesn't expect me to be=20 some perfect impossible being, so I can express everything I feel and know=20 that regardless, I am welcomed and loved. =A0=A0So let Gary have his feelings and respect him as an individual, and le= t go of the guilt you've been taught by these false teachers of what God is actually about. In the end, all of us will be welcomed back, even Hitler,=20 murderers, and southern baptist. Whatever the deed that we as humans judge a= s=20 " hell worthy " is actually not so because the true nature of God is total=20 acceptance regardless. Just remember that we are not God's we're only boys,=20 and although God will accept us regardless, they'll be hell to pay when we=20 disrespect and cross each other here on earth. The difference is that it=20 won't be the hand of God dishing out the punishment, it'll be the hand of=20 your brother or sister. --part1_81.2a4a587.273c34a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In response to Rawebleys' question " How do Christi= an Numan fans get their heads round Numan's blatant hatred towards God? Do you feel guilty for listening to it. I like the sound very much but the lyrics I find very ha= rd to accept. " =A0I say the following; All throughout history mankind h= as expressed his/her anger towards God in one form or another; The uliti= mate expression being the killing of Jesus himself.=20 =A0=A0=A0However, =A0I think that this anger is actually not truly direc= ted at God in as=20 much as it is towards a false representation of what others have done in= the name of God to achieve their own means. =A0Considering the history=20= of mankind and the atrocities committed in the name of God, it's no wond= er God has attained a bad reputation with some of us. =A0In my relations= hip with God I express anger if I'm mad at him/her ( because God is actu= ally both ) and then apologize later if I feel the need. =A0God doesn't=20= expect me to be=20 some perfect impossible being, so I can express everything I feel and kn= ow that regardless, I am welcomed and loved. =A0=A0So let Gary have his feelings and respect him as an individual, an= d let go of the guilt you've been taught by these false teachers of what God i= s actually about. In the end, all of us will be welcomed back, even Hitler= , murderers, and southern baptist. Whatever the deed that we as humans j= udge as " hell worthy " is actually not so because the true nature of Go= d is total acceptance regardless. Just remember that we are not God's we= 're only boys, and although God will accept us regardless, they'll be he= ll to pay when we disrespect and cross each other here on earth. The dif= ference is that it won't be the hand of God dishing out the punishment,=20= it'll be the hand of your brother or sister. --part1_81.2a4a587.273c34a4_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:46:45 EST From: HarlowGold@aol.com Subject: a tour of the US? To: Will Gary be touring for sure in the US in 2001? I saw the update on his webpage and it looks like it's gonna happen.....now if he doesn't come to Denver I've got to go see him no matter where. Any idea if this tour will just hit the coasts or if he'll make it to the middle of the country? Gotta see Gary in 2001! harlow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:19:33 -0800 From: Pythoness Subject: Beats Exile?? To: digest@garynumanfan.nu (Gary Numan) Finally got a hold of Pure today! I've only given it one listen, at scandalously low volume, so I reserve the right to amend my initial impressions of it. At this point I would say I find it to be Gary at his Numanest, a thoroughly satisfying and interesting album with great lyrics and probably bound to be one of my favorites (maybe even in the top five), but I can't at all see it knocking Exile from its perch in my internal hall of fame. As I say, I may well be mistaken (it took a good dozen listens before I suddenly grasped what a masterpiece Exile is), but at the moment I'm rating it slightly above Sacrifice, which I love, but quite substantially below Exile, which I adore. Pure is more derivative, for a start (the NIN references, especially), and lacked Exile's initial impact, at any rate. Time will tell. :-) I'll certainly be listening to it again and again! Despite the seemingly negative remarks I'm very pleased with the album--if it's not pure platinum at least it's 24-karat gold. zg Pestmaster (zigi@ravenland.com) Ziggy's House O' Vermin http://www.ravenland.com/index.htm/index.htm ------------------------- "You gotta kinda drift through the albinos like they was bunches of sunflowers." --Rather Random Person Overheard at Kiva ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:54:28 +0000 From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Bootlegs To: Gary Numan I tried to order the Brixton concert bootleg online, but something somewhere had expired, and I couldn't do anything about it. If anyone can help me, I would appreciate it. Paddy Vickers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:58:41 -0600 From: Mark Hartlaub Subject: Christian Numan fans To: digest@garynumanfan.nu In a recent digest Richard wrote: >How do other Christian Numan fans get their heads >round Numan's blatant hatred towards God? Do you feel guilty for listening >to it? A good question. I agree with the post concerning Gary's own description of "Exile" as a piece of fiction. It is a "What if?" album. That helps me. But yes, I do feel a little guilty when I'm singing along to "Glory is dead heaven, glory is death in his name" (not one of my favorite songs). However, the more I read about Gary, the more I think he's a decent guy whose beliefs are simply not the same as mine (but whose are?). I'm hoping for other, more varied topics from Gary in the future. -Mark "I like Romantics but I don't like Stephen" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:57:05 +0000 From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Fallen over To: Gary Numan At the end of FALLEN it sounds to me like: You You You You Horror Horror Horror Paddy Vickers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:48:35 GMT From: "Mark Darmofal" Subject: Finding "Pure" in U.S. shops To: digest@GaryNumanFan.NU The local chain of music shops here (Scranton, PA) had three copies of PURE when I bought it Thursday night. Mark _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:46:19 GMT From: "Mark Darmofal" Subject: Gary and Jesus Re: Richard To: digest@GaryNumanFan.NU I am a Christian. PURE is not offensive to my religion, and there is no guilt for listening to it, it is a positive listening experience, and I have no problem with the lyrics. I do not care if Gary hates God or not, it is irrelevant to my beliefs. After only a few listens, PURE looks to be his best ever, much as I suggested many Digests back. I am very happy with it. I see 'My Jesus' being an excellent live track. Anybody know if Toni Halliday (sp) had any uncredited contributions to PURE? Mark _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:54:08 EST From: STUDMONKEYMAN@aol.com Subject: Gary Numan Digest V2 #89 To: digest@garynumanfan.nu --part1_c.cdb13d2.273c30b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In response to Rawebleys' question " How do Christian Numan fans get their heads round Numan's blatant hatred towards God? Do you feel guilty for listening to it. I like the sound very much but the lyrics I find very hard to accept. " I say the following; All throughout history mankind has expressed his/her anger towards God in one form or another; The ulitimate expression being the killing of Jesus himself. However, I think that this anger is actually not truly directed at God in as much as it is towards a false representation of what others have done in the name of God to achieve their own means. Considering the history of mankind and the atrocities committed in the name of God, it's no wonder God has attained a bad reputation with some of us. In my relationship with God I express anger if I'm mad at him/her ( because God is actually both ) and then apologize later if I feel the need. God doesn't expect me to be some perfect impossible being, so I can express everything I feel and know that regardless, I am welcomed and loved. So let Gary have his feelings and respect him as an individual, and let go of the guilt you've been taught by these false teachers of what God is actually about. In the end, all of us will be welcomed back, even Hitler, murderers, and southern baptist. Whatever the deed that we as humans judge as " hell worthy " is actually not so because the true nature of God is total acceptance regardless. Just remember that we are not God's we're only boys, and although God will accept us regardless, they'll be hell to pay when we disrespect and cross each other here on earth. The difference is that it won't be the hand of God dishing out the punishment, it'll be the hand of your brother or sister. --part1_c.cdb13d2.273c30b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In response to Rawebleys' question " How do Christian Numan fans get their heads round Numan's blatant hatred towards God? Do you feel guilty for listening to it. I like the sound very much but the lyrics I find very hard to accept. "  I say the following; All throughout history mankind has expressed his/her anger towards God in one form or another; The ulitimate expression being the killing of Jesus himself.    However,  I think that this anger is actually not truly directed at God in as much as it is towards a false representation of what others have done in the name of God to achieve their own means.  Considering the history of mankind and the atrocities committed in the name of God, it's no wonder God has attained a bad reputation with some of us.  In my relationship with God I express anger if I'm mad at him/her ( because God is actually both ) and then apologize later if I feel the need.  God doesn't expect me to be some perfect impossible being, so I can express everything I feel and know that regardless, I am welcomed and loved.   So let Gary have his feelings and respect him as an individual, and let go of the guilt you've been taught by these false teachers of what God is actually about. In the end, all of us will be welcomed back, even Hitler, murderers, and southern baptist. Whatever the deed that we as humans judge as " hell worthy " is actually not so because the true nature of God is total acceptance regardless. Just remember that we are not God's we're only boys, and although God will accept us regardless, they'll be hell to pay when we disrespect and cross each other here on earth. The difference is that it won't be the hand of God dishing out the punishment, it'll be the hand of your brother or sister. --part1_c.cdb13d2.273c30b0_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 01:14:46 -0000 From: "A MCHAFFIE" Subject: Gary Numan Digest V2 #89 To: "Gary Numan" How do other Christian Numan fans get their heads > round Numan's blatant hatred towards God? Do you feel guilty for listening > to it. I like the sound very much but the lyrics I find it very hard to > accept. This was my reason for not purchasing Exile. > > Richard Does it really matter ? Why dont you just forget about it. Buy Cluiff Richard and Stryper instead. I'm gay, and into punk. But if someone's lyrics are either anti-gay, or fascist / racist etc, then no matter how good the tunes are, dont expect me to buy it. Stick to your principles, and buy something else If Exile and Pure upset you so much, best to find someone else to follow.. http://facelink.com/andy64 ICQ 63828196 "I want to be your animal I want to be your only sin" - Gary Numan - 'Pure' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:26:40 -0600 From: Gerald Vick Subject: Gary on the Shelves November 7 ??? To: "'digest@garynumanfan.nu'" In Tennessee: I called several places in Nashville........no copies available...none expected. Called Tower Records......they claimed to have 5.......I needed 2. By the time I arrived, there was one copy left....I think they were the only 5 delivered to Tennessee??? They were 17.99 also. Best Buy sells them online for 14.99 including shipping.......but carries none in the stores! Render: IamRender@hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 01:42:04 +0000 > > From: NumanBoy > > Subject: "Pure" in the US record shops > > To: BoysLikeUS > > > > I did my first round of work tonight for Spitfire Records. I was asked > to > > check stock in local stores. What a disapointment! > > > > At CDWorld in N. Dallas, they had no copies. They said they were only > > shipped ONE COPY for the day of release, but expected more. They are > hoping > > to recieve more tommorow. > > > > At Wherehouse Music that had one copy. Agian the only copy they > recieved. > > It was listed at $17.99! > > > > At Barnes and Noble, there were none. > > > > Anyone else, have the same experience? When Exile was released, the > stores > > were loaded with copies. > > > > Cheers! > > NumanBoy > > Proud Member Of Boys Like Us > > www.numanboy.com > > www.davidellison.com > > ICQ 94727919 > > > > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:08:25 -0000 From: thoutby@fusiongroup.co.uk (Tim Houtby) Subject: god To: Hi Clea I noticed your mail on the Digest. Glad you saw that I wasn't being a smartarse. Obviously we all know about the miscarriage, but theres more. I think Gary is laying blame at Gods feet for anything and everything that leaves him. Whether it be the baby, Mew Mew the cat, Spooky the dog, or either of his Grandparents. But whether its healthy or right to adopt such a blame culture is questionable - but everyone has that choice don't they (maybe its healthier to blame something/one whose very existence is questionable rather than yourself)? But the upshot of it is, is that I don't know where all this came from, what started it, or whatever. I guess none of us do. The point you made about Sacrifice being the starting point is an interesting one - it may have surfaced in earlier work, but not as blatant. Sacrifice was the first to bring it out into the open. Maybe someone should/could look back into the library of interviews to see where (and why) this all started. He must have given the first explanation somewhere. But the other upshot of it all, is that I'm not sure as to whether we all just read too much into this. I've said it before - what right does anyone have to question the religious beliefs of anyone else? And are we just not placing too much importance on the subject? Maybe even more so than Gary is doing himself? I don't know. Tim. ________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:33:25 -0000 From: "Dave Mcloughlin" Subject: Ivor Biggun To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick question. It seems that in England a person sometimes know = as Ivor biggun or Doc Cox (he featured on a TV programme called "Thats = life" did a version/homage to Gary when he recorded a song called "Are = Mice Electric". has anyone heard this? Also Ivor seems to have links to Beggars Banquet! what is the common = link? Steve Webbon? What do you think Boomshanka! Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a quick question.  It seems that in = England a person=20 sometimes know as Ivor biggun or Doc Cox (he featured on a TV programme = called=20 "Thats life" did a version/homage to Gary when he recorded a song called = "Are=20 Mice Electric". has anyone heard this?   Also Ivor seems to have links to Beggars Banquet! what is the = common link?=20 Steve Webbon?   What do you think   Boomshanka! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:36:05 -0500 From: "Gean, Shawn" Subject: Nu-Christians To: "'digest@garynumanfan.nu'" Richard, I understand your feelings about Gary's lyrics. I have been a rabid Numan fan since the early eightys, and from the beginning I had to put some of my beliefs on hold in order to listen with an open mind. When I first got exile, I felt the same way it seems that you do about Pure. I found it much more comfortable when Gary bashed society, and was pretty uncomfortable with his strange take on religion.... I now look at it in two ways... first, there is some good in this music, somewhere, I can feel it. and second, Gary (though I confess I have not read his biography yet) has some definite issues with religion. Since he does not believe in God, his issues cannot be with God. I feel that he is pointing out the shortcomings of human religion. He seems to take exception with things like the inquisition, or witch burning--imagine that! ;^) He also seems also to take exception with the idea of a god that would require or condone that kind of behavior. He seems to see that his life would be easier if he 'believed in your heaven' but he can't force himself to-- and can't ignore the cruelty of people involved in religion-- hypocrites who may think of themselves as 'Pure'. The scary part for me is that his problems with religion come from people like us. His lyrics in 'Little Invitro' are very poignant, and he puts his anger aside to speak to what I consider his real feelings-- those that he masks in other songs with his anger. (not to say that his anger is not real-- just that it is a defense) Of course it is much deeper than that, and I wouldn't mind hearing other people's opinions on the matter, that is unless we are all too tired of the subject! I personally hope that somehow Gary resolves his issues about God, but I'm not holding my breath. The *Sparkle* P.S. "I dream of wires"! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:23:41 +0000 From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Nu-Christians To: Gary Numan Richard ?Webley? asks about Christian Numanoids, and how they cope with Gary's current anti-God trip. I am not a Nu- Christian but a Nu-Bahai, but I hope my contribution may be relevant. Gary does not believe in God. This does not, however, mean that Gary regards the whole issue as irrelevant or a waste of time. There are millions of people who just switch off to religious issues. But not Gary. The whole question bugs him. It seems to me (no flames, please, this is just personal interpretation) that he cannot reconcile the kindness and humanity which we see in the life of Christ, with the jealous God of some parts of the Old Testament, or the need for Christ to suffer on the cross. This question of having to die for all humanity comes up in several songs. In other words, Gary, who hates violence, hates cruelty to animals, etc., is, at one level, searching. If God exists, Gary can still not believe in Him, because He has not ordered the universe in a way which prevents suffering. A Christian should HAPPILY go out and promote Gary's records, as being from a man still searching for the truth..... Yours Numanly, Paddy Vickers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:36:52 -0000 From: Jason Warner Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Gary Numan Digest V2 #89 To: digest@garynumanfan.nu I am on site today and will be back in on Friday 10th November. If the matter is urgent please call 01536 495000. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 09:57:09 CST From: "Jerry V. Howard" Subject: PURE - Spitfire - An Alien Cure To: digest@garynumanfan.nu Hello all It's good to see another couple of contributors are a part of the Spitfire Street Team. I too have yet to receive promotional materials. I asked, and was told that there still aren't any available, and when there are, I'll be sent a package. AFE announced that Spitfire will be releasing "Listen To My Voice" as the first single here in the USA. That isn't neccesarily true. In fact, Spitfire is leaning to releasing "Rip" first. There are current remixes underway of "Rip." However, feedback from radio shows an interest in "Listen To My Voice." It's still possible the first single will be "Listen To My Voice," which I also believe would be the best choice, but for now the odds are for "Rip." The single will likely go to radio in January or February. Thanks to Brad who wrote in a previous digest about getting an early copy of PURE at Wherehouse Music in St. Louis. I rushed to my local Wherehouse and got the only copy they had in stock Sunday the 5th. I just got my Retail Tracking form from Spitfire and will be checking starting this weekend on local retail tracking. So far, the Hastings here in Murfreesboro, like the local Wherehouse, only got one copy in for the first week of the release. Hastings has ordered 3 more copies. It is disappointing. For the latest news from Spitfire Records on Gary Numan, visit: An Alien Cure http://beam.to/analiencure -jerry v _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:03:34 -0500 From: "Sean Caszatt" Subject: Pure sales... To: "Gary Numan" I just posted a review to Amazon.com regarding PURE. I was pleasantly surprised to see it was rated the 782nd best selling item on Amazon.com that day (November 7th). (Sure, that may not sound great, but think of all the stuff Amazon.com sells...and then think about the fact that only 781 things were in front of PURE on November 7th.) Considering the absolute dearth of promotion, that's not half bad. I was playing PURE at work and a fellow employee asked me what it was. When I told him, he not only knew who Gary Numan was, but said he loved the new stuff. He said it sounded very cool. Also, in doing my part to promote the album, my gaming website (http://www.gameassault.com) has been promoting PURE with a side banner for about three weeks. I'm due to change it (because it's dated November 7th, the release date), but, unfortunately, I haven't sold any copies directly as a result of the ad. Still, with over 2000 people visiting the site a day, it can't hurt exposure-wise. Sean gameassault.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:05:49 -0000 From: "Kaarin Goodburn" Subject: Pure sound files on the web? To: Hi, Does anyone have any URLs where I could find MP3s or WAVs of any of the stuff from Pure? Thanks! Kaarin Goodburn London, UK I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:05:41 GMT From: "Tam Tamster" Subject: Religious Lyrics To: digest@garynumanfan.nu Richard wrote: >I know the subject of Numan's beliefs (or lack of) has been done to >death >- >but being a Christian myself having purchased a copy of PURE I'm >finding >it >very hard to listen to the album w/o having feelings of guilt as if I'm >betraying me beliefs. How do other Christian Numan fans get their heads >round Numan's blatant hatred towards God? Do you feel guilty for >listening >to it. I like the sound very much but the lyrics I find it very hard to >accept. This was my reason for not purchasing Exile. You're right Richard - they have been done to death. The constant religious battle in the digest has left me skim reading it most of the time...but anyway, I have to say that as a non-religious but still "christian" person the lyrics to any numan songs have never bothered me... However, i have to say that the lyrics to Pure (the track) always have left me feeling more than a little unnerved...I really can't see why Gary would want to write a song that goes through the thoughts of a rapist before he commits his crime. To me rape is the crime of all crimes and because of that I do find it hard to listen to. What makes it worse is that I loved that song when it was the reworking of Friends - it was one of my all time favourites...that version still is, the new version isn't. I don't know anyone who has been raped, but I do know that if any of my family were then I would be out for revenge, starting with the use of the front of my car and moving on to more painful methods! Maybe I can appreciate how you and some others feel on the religious debate because it has now, I think, been brought into another arena entirely. I still listen to the track but I'm always somewhat bemused by it...I guess the religious side of things depends on your upbringing, but most people I know or have known have been brought up to believe that rape is wrong (not all of them though wierdly enough, and I had big problems listening to one particular person sometimes). Anyway, there's my bit!! Cheers Matthew _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:21:55 +0100 From: luc.de_visscher@ch.Novartis.com Subject: Some more pure thoughts To: digest@garynumanfan.nu (Gary Numan) Talking about a single for Pure, I'm pretty dissapointed that a majority is chosing Listen to my voice. Don't get me wrong, it's a great track, but it's again like Gary is *trying* to make something popular or commercial. This is why I would go for the more difficult Pure or RIP, because this is genuine Numan, and this is Numan Now. No distribution, promotion, airplay or concert announcement over here in Belgium (Sigh!). Greetings, Luc De Visscher The Numan Factor, Belgium ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 22:18:39 -0500 From: dilidali@corecomm.net Subject: The Search for PURE in the US To: digest@garynumanfan.nu On November 8, 2000 I began my search for PURE in my area of Akron, Ohio. I was horribly disappointed to find out that ALL the Best Buy stores in my area have yet to receive PURE. I ventured over to Borders Bookstore across the street, and found they too did not have PURE. But after a search of their computer system, a copy was located at another Borders across town. Success! I finally had my copy!! I paid through the proverbal nose for it, but heck, it's for the Numan cause! But now, I am wondering if I am able to locate it elsewhere? I will conduct a survey of my favorite record stores to see. I too, am a member of the Spitfire Records Street Team and will report this to them right away. I haven't received any promotional materials from Spitfire on PURE, but I am hoping that will happen sometime next year. So I say to Rick in DC...PATIENCE my dear friend! You'll get your reward in due time! Until then, Pro-Pain still needs people to help with the show. ;) One final thought. I listened to PURE for the first time today. You've heard it all before...it is a good CD! I'll leave the critiquing to the experts, but it's a wonderfully eerie thing to hear. Cheers, Tamara Botzum ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:09:41 EST From: StrngeChrm@aol.com Subject: TOWER RECORDS to the RESCUE!! To: Hi All... I have been receiving the digest for awhile and thought I would stop by say hello and give thanks to TOWER RECORDS! Of course all of us here in the states were anxious for yesterday to arrive, yippee we got to vote, LOL. Actually even though I had to drag my body out of bed early to do such I couldn't wait till 5:00PM. That is when I would finally get my hands on PURE! After casting my ballot I got the idea that maybe, just maybe Best Buy would be open and I would be able to purchase said CD early. HA! It didn't open till 10:00 AM! What is wrong with them? Didn't they know the next eight hours were going to be torture! Well as I daydreamed all day at work I got the bright idea to call BB just to make sure they had it. You guessed it, I was hit with, "Yes it did come out today and no "Best Buys" in the area have it in stock." AHHHHHHHH.. Next was a call to Borders, "Yes it is out today, NO copies are in but we will have them in two days." Not Good enough. Called Tower, and Joel's reply to me was, "Yes it's out and YES we have it!" Thank you Tower Records on Little River Turnpike! Being that it was election day what normally would have been a 45 minute round trip took me over an hour and half, not that I am complaining. It was worth every second of being stuck in maddening rush hour traffic. Of course, thanks to a friend in England, I have had a copy for a week or so BUT I had to have the real thing! I also feel it is important to let the record company know we are here and are ready to spend the $$$ for great music from the man. down in the park... SC5 (AVitD) PS Whislt at Tower also picked up, down in the park, The Alternative Anthology. Haven't listened yet..still in Pure. BTW, love the pix in Pure...so dark and lovely, as for the music what can I say. Do I need to say anything? 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