Gary Numan Digest Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Volume 2 : Issue 98 Today's Topics: an automatic 'automatic' Brief interview - Rollingstone.com Dear Santa! First definite sale Gary Numan Digest V2 #97 (2 msgs) Mallory Heart (2 msgs) My Mallory Heart numanization of words as sounds Remixes Sharpe and Numan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 15:33:48 -0600 From: Val & Ben Iglar-Mobley Subject: an automatic 'automatic' To: The Gary Digest > 2) Does anyone know where I can get hold of a CD version of the Sharpe > and Numan 80's atrocity 'Automatic'? I love the song Breathe in > emotion. Well, Mark, I think it's pretty much long out of print so I can't point you toward any music stores. You might be fortunate enough to find a kind-hearted numanoid who may have an extra copy she or he'd be willing to part with (which is how I lucked into my own copy, thanks to the generous largesse of Mr. Dale Seaton, who sent me a copy all the way from New Zealand!). I know of such a one. I mentioned him a few Digests ago, but let me give him another plug again since the question has come up. I've had some contact with a guy who has made it a hobby to collect out-of-print items from 80s New Wave artists to make them available on recordable cd copies. His name is Wes Holley and he's at mailto:romoboy@midsouth.rr.com. Along with the instrumental 'Human' album and a set of 'The Pleasure Principle' demo recordings and now 'The Radial Pair' / Hugh Nicholson collaboration double-coupon, one of the Gary titles he has is 'Automatic,' and I think he even has the extended versions of "Change Your Mind" and the b-side "Love Like A Ghost" as bonus tracks on his CDR of it. If you write to him about it, you might ask him about those extras, I'm not sure. He does charge $12.50 plus postage for the copies he makes to cover his expenses, so you ought to know that. The reason I've been mentioning him here is because I believe in the idea. I don't have a cd burner myself, so I can't make disc copies for other collectors, but as a collector myself I know what it's like to feel frustrated trying to locate a copy of something out of print. If I had a burner, I'd be doing exactly what Wes is doing: making copies of out-of-print items available for other collectors. I know it's a controversial question about copyrights, but my thinking is that if it's no longer commercially available then nobody is losing a sale. Selling the same item on eBay for an inflated amount of money is completely legal, in contrast, but the artists get nothing more out of it than they would from sharing a cd copy. This way a collector doesn't have to cough up as much. About that particular album, I was horrified by the music when I first heard it, but now I love it. True, true, true, it's nothing like any of his other albums, but it's still electronic, and the lyrics are as Gary as any other. I think "Nightlife" is terrific. I'm not sure I'd want Gary to collaborate with Bill Sharpe on a regular basis, but I love having that album in my collection. It's just part of the grand Numan experience. love, like a ghost, Ben http://home.earthlink.net/~iglarmobley * * * "Looking through windows at a friend of mine She's like a knife in my heart But you can get used to anything" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:57:11 -0600 From: "Craig Stenseth" Subject: Brief interview - Rollingstone.com To: "Gary Numan" This should work... http://entertainment.msn.com/music/features/feature1.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 20:46:47 -0500 From: "Cary Wiltz" Subject: Dear Santa! To: "Albert" , Deer Santa, I wud like a kool toy space ranjur fer Xmas. Iv ben a gud boy all yeer. Yer Frend, BiLLy Dear Billy, Nice spelling. You're on your way to a career in lawn care. How about I send you a book so you can learn to read and write? I'm giving your older brother the space ranger. At least HE can spell! Santa Dear Santa, I have been a good girl all year, and the only thing I ask for is peace and joy in the world for everybody! Love, Sarah Dear Sarah, You're parents smoked pot when they had you, didn't they? Santa Dear Santa, I don't know if you can do this, but for Christmas, I'd like for my mommy and daddy to get back together. Please see what you can do. Love, Teddy Dear Teddy, Look, your dad's banging the babysitter like a screen door in a hurricane. Do you think he's gonna give that up to come back to your frigid mom, who rides his ass constantly? It's time to give up that dream. Let me get you some nice Legos instead. Santa Dear Santa, I want a new bike, a Playstation, a train, some G.I. Joes, a dog, a drum kit, a pony and a tuba. Love, Francis Dear Francis, Who names their kid "Francis" nowadays? I bet you're gay. Santa Dear Santa, I left milk and cookies for you under the tree, and I left carrots for your reindeer outside the back door. Love, Susan Dear Susan, Milk gives me the runs and carrots make the deer fart in my face when riding in the sleigh. You want to do me a favor? Leave me a bottle of scotch. Santa Dear Santa, What do you do the other 364 days of the year? Are you busy making toys? Your friend, Thomas Dear Thomas, All the toys are made in China. I have a condo in Vegas, where I spend most of my time making low-budget porno films. I unwind by drinking myself silly and squeezing the asses of cocktail waitresses while losing money at the craps table. Hey,you wanted to know. Santa Dear Santa, Do you see us when we're sleeping, do you really know when we're awake, like in the song? Love, Jessica Dear Jessica, Are you really that gullible? Good luck in whatever you do. I'm skipping your house. Santa Dear Santa, I really really want a puppy this year. Please please please PLEASE PLEASE could I have one? Timmy Timmy, That whiney begging shit may work with your folks, but that crap doesn't work with me. You're getting a sweater again. Santa Dearest Santa, We don't have a chimney in our house, how do you get into our house? Love, Marky Mark, First, stop calling yourself "Marky", that's why you're getting your ass whipped at school. Second, you don't live in a house, you live in a low-rent apartment complex. Third, I get inside your pad just like all the burglars do, through your bedroom window. Sweet Dreams, Santa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:45:01 +0000 (GMT) From: VinceH Subject: First definite sale To: Gary Numan On 03 Dec, wrote: > They also need to be able to > find it in the shops! I have never seen > more than one copy at a time, and usually > none! Mind you, I console myself that > all these thousands of CDs on the racks > are the ones they HAVEN'T been able to > sell!!!! I was impressed by HMV in Bristol - on the day of release they had Pure on one of their CD display things just as you walked in. Lots of copies, in a prime position. Nice. VinceH -- WebChange2 for RISC OS: 12ukp. Limited function version and order form from:- http://www.softrock.co.uk/webchange/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 18:33:01 EST From: Numaniac@aol.com Subject: Gary Numan Digest V2 #97 To: digest@garynumanfan.nu In a message dated 12/7/00 3:36:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, digest@garynumanfan.nu writes: << Pure - a couple of thoughts >> in response to craigs question; "There's a song called 'Rip', and a song called 'Torn' ? ? ?" who gives a shit, they're good songs. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:09:09 -0700 From: Three Letter Acronym Subject: Gary Numan Digest V2 #97 To: Gary Numan > Hi Mark-- "Mallory" is (maybe "was") a brand of battery, like Eveready, Ray-O-Vac, Duracell, etc. Not a reference whatsoever to the older sister in "Family Ties." :-) --Harold ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:25:32 -0000 From: Julian Seifert Subject: Mallory Heart To: "'info@spiresoftware.co.uk'" In answer to that particular question, Numan is simply implying that his heart is a Battery. (i.e.. a Mallory Cell) Ok? Jules ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:34:05 -0000 From: "MARK SAUNDERS" Subject: Mallory heart To: "Gary Numan" Mark, I'm pretty sure the "Mallory" heart refers to the Mallory brand of battery. I think they were an old British battery manufacturer. I'm not sure whether the company's actually still producing batteries or still around, even (?). So, basically, I suppose it means "My battery heart is sure to fail". Mark S. >Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:07:10 -0000 >From: "Info (Spire Software)" >Subject: Sharpe and Numan >To: "Gary Numan" > >1) The lyrics to Metal, what the hell is Mallory? as in 'My Mallory heart is >sure to fail.' Any ideas > >Cheers > >Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:48:17 -0000 From: "David Dalton" Subject: My Mallory Heart To: "Numan Digest" Hello everybody, In response to Mark's first question, the "Mallory" in the line "My Mallory heart is sure to fail" refers to a brand of torch battery. In other words, the android of the song has an electrically powered heart. Regards to all, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:33:34 -0800 From: alecw Subject: numanization of words as sounds To: digest@GaryNumanFan.NU i like it when we talk about lyrics. gary numan is a unique kind of "word doctor." his words are almost medicinal for me. gary numan uses words that sound like green tea tastes--powerful, bitter, healing. he's a shaman with his lyrics. i consider him up there in a style that includes yoko ono, john lennon, james joyce, johnny rotten, bob dylan, syd barrett, nikolai gogol, thomas de quincey, william burroughs, aleister crowley, r.d. laing, john foxx. re:- gary numan's choice of words in his lyrics. those words are, in a way, very much a part of the poetic traditions of the uk in particular and really the whole world in general. evidence of this is exhibited in the rhythms and sounds made in pre-norman anglo saxon poetry, where the sounds that the words made and the various chain reactions certain word/sounds made in various combinations were used to evoke or conjure certain moods, emotions and beyond. often this writing style values an overall sound ambience over all else. gary is within this kind of poetic tradition, which, coming as it does from before written language as we know it, was full of code and abstraction. he writes in hieroglyphs or snapshots. certain phrases could be full of meaning to one half of the audience while the rest wouldn't get the inner meaning or even the in-jokes. i like the way he's been stripping away the narrative and tit-for-tat rhyming. people who i've introduced numan to have commented that they like how he isn't hung up on rhyming. at the other end of it, gary's reconstructed english is sort of an easier-to-read version of william burroughs. i think that at this point, he's boiled everything he's done before to a few favorite phrases that he pulls out every now and then. when he pulls out a classic phrase, whether it's "you are," "i suppose," "you" (pronounced "youw") or "woah-oh," whatever he's singing about becomes "numanized." there are few people who have so many lyrics that are so satisfying to sing or shout along to. alec (thinking about the black spires and the sidewalks near the dakota building, new york) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:30:56 -0500 From: Matthew Roberts Subject: Remixes To: Gary Numan NuWorld has announced that Listen To My Voice and A Prayer For The Unborn= are to be remixed by Andy Gray. I have mixed feelings about re-mixes. However, Andy Gray is a big name an= d this should be great publicity. It should also be the best chance of havi= ng a Gary Numan hit single - think of Brimful of Asha and It's Like That. Gary has also said that he will try and write a new song or two for a digi-pack release of Pure next February, although it must be doubtful tha= t he will manage it. Matthew Roberts ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Cole Subject: Sharpe and Numan To: digest@garynumanfan.nu (Gary Numan) "Info (Spire Software)" writes: >1) The lyrics to Metal, what the hell is Mallory? as in 'My Mallory heart is >sure to fail.' Any ideas? Mallory was a battery brand. -- Forte International, P.O. 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