--------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T (by subscription only - to unsubscribe, see bottom of this message) --------------------------------------------------------------------- (#2001-44) - Topics This Issue: 1) Enquiring minds? 2) Once a week? 3) Hey Mr Wall !! 4) Daily Digest 5) Bits of Stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:59:36 -0600 From: NumanBoy Subject: Enquiring minds? Dryad wrote: >Numanboy tried to slip in the following: > The US Tour....still up in the air for me. Work, personal business > and the move to the UK next year are all ahving a BIG affect on my >What move to the UK? C'mon, enquiring minds want to know! For all those who didn't know, yes I am planning on moving to London on or about Jan 2002. It's been a dream for some time and now I have opportunities within my company to obtain a position there. In the past 2 years, the company I work for, BrannForbes, has been obtained, purchesed, merged and aquired and we are now part of Havas Advertising and have several London offices! So with any stroke of luck, I'll have a flat in Islington, be working on the Guinness web site, hanging out with Tubeway Andy at the weekend, and having Gary and Gemma over for dinner parties in just a few months. Cheers! NumanBoy Proud Member Of Boys Like Us www.numanboy.com www.davidellison.com ICQ 94727919 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:48:34 -0700 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: Once a week? On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:02:04 -0700, someone too paranoid to use his real name wrote: >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:22:36 -0000 >From: "Axeman" >Subject: The Digest > >Joey, > >I'm begging you, ONCE a week only please. Send it out on a Sunday morning or >something so we have something of real substance to read over the weekend >instead of daily inconsequential mini digests. Do this and I'm sure the >digest will be healthier for it. I frankly find the daily mails with 2 >messages in an annoyance. Other than that it's fine. Well, once upon a time, the Digest was indeed a once-a-week proposition. After much debate, it was moved to twice a week - the weekly Digests were getting to be too large and you couldn't have any TIMELY debate. You'd write a letter, wait a week for a reply, then wait another week for the reply to your reply, etc. I've seen a mixed reaction so far to going to the daily format. Certainly, one can point at the ongoing announcements about US Tour concert dates being added and whatnot as an argument in favour of daily Digests: the information is timely and up-to-the-minute. Some people have also taken advantage of my server's ability to turn off Digest mode - that is, when each message arrives, they get a copy of it immediately, without waiting for the daily Digest. I personally was a little worried about it, but I find that, previously, I'd sometimes let 5 or 6 Digests pile up before reading them - I just didn't wanna sit down and spend that much time reading. But these smaller Digests... I can read one of them in just a few minutes and then I'm done with it. I am not 100% opposed to going back to the old arrangements, but I'd have to see an overwhelming demand for it. In doing so, I would have to fire up the old 486 machine that runs it and put it back online - then, every new subscriber who has signed up since the change would need to sign up again, and everyone who has unsubscribed in the interim would have to unsubscribe again. Furthermore, poor Dave Datta is the one that has to MANUALLY add and delete people, and there were a *LOT* of dead addresses in the database, and that was chewing up bandwidth each time a Digest was produced (attempting to mail to people who aren't there anymore). The software on that machine was homebuilt by Dave and doesn't have a lot of the fancies that newer mailing list software has, but it DOES have the rather-unique capability of producing a once-a-week or twice-a-week Digest. The one I am using now does NOT have this capability - once a day is the most infrequent setting I have (I could make it every three hours if I wanted to). The other concern I have is that that particular machine runs Linux. Now, that makes it stable as a table, but it's an operating system that I do not know and I don't have the free time to learn a new operating system. That means that I am ENTIRELY dependent upon Dave (or others) for things like routine maintenance and... well, everything. To this day I have no idea how much space is free on its two hard drives: I haven't a clue how to check that. That's just one example, and I get nervous being in charge of maintaining a machine that I do NOT know how to fix if it goes down. And, speaking of which, I was having increasingly-frequent problems with the network card spontaneously deciding not to work, and the only solution to that was rebooting a few times. I don't know *HOW* to install a new network card, load the new driver, CONFIGURE that driver, etc. See where I'm coming from? Heck, even FINDING a "new" ISA-bus network card nowadays is a tall order. :-) Now, if Dave's software ran under Windows NT Server, it'd be a whole 'nother story. :-) NT I know, and I maintain five NT Servers here. But it doesn't, so I use the built-in mailing list facility in my mail server software, which gets the job done and, I HOPE, will soon be able to properly filter out the stuff we've been trying to filter for so long (I've managed to get it HALF working, but that's not good enough). Anyways, those are my thoughts. If we wanna discuss this issue I'm open to it, but let's limit it to a few days so as not to bore everybody else, k? / From the desk of Joey Lindstrom / / I broke my arm trying to fold a bed. It wasn't the kind that folds. / --Steven Wright ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:04:11 -0000 From: thoutby@fusiongroup.co.uk (Tim Houtby) Subject: Hey Mr Wall !! Hey Wall You did it again. Surpassed yourself even. You should get a job in films. Keep it up. Tim. ________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:52:25 -0000 From: "Steve Morris" Subject: Daily Digest I agree totally with Axeman. The same thing happened with our local paper which went from weekly to daily publication. There is not enough news for a daily Digest and it lessens the enjoyment. One edition (or two) particularly at the weekend makes it easier to enjoy. The main improvement we need to make to the Digest is that we reject all emails from those posting in HTML and the lazy ******s who can't be bothered to think of a Subject line and reply back the previous Digest. Enoch This email has been screened for all known demented and insane rantings. Unlike some. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:46:03 -0000 From: "Gary Perkins" Subject: Bits of Stuff I enjoyed reading Paddy V's piece on Dream Killer a couple of days back. Paddy mentioned this track a while back and while I was obviously aware of it I had never really appreciated it. After Paddy mentioned it first time round I gave it a good listen and all of a sudden I realised what a great track it is. Thanks very much Mr V. A track that means a lot to me is Don't Call My Name from Metal Rhythm. I play this a lot when anyone that I know dies, and I often think I would like it played at my own funeral. The sentiments are really unusual in a song and yet they just make perfect sense. It really is a very moving song. I went to the Birmingham Academy gig a while back and I have to say it was the best ever. Quite amazing. The sheer power and energy blew me away. You folks in the States are in for a real treat. But then you know that anyway I suspect! The Purified interview CD is fantastic. It is the first time that I have come across this idea and I think it is a big improvement on the usual concert programme. I just hope the music clips included on it are made available in full at some point. Numan's out-takes are better than most others best efforts. Does anyone know anything about the track with the line 'Walk on water', I think it's the second one. This really is good and I would love to hear it in full. Anyone know about the single release from Pure? I thought Listen to my Voice was being released in February 2001? I notice on NuWorld that a video is being made for RIP, but it doesn't say that this will support the single release of the track. Strange. Finally, long live the Digest. I can't get on with all these new fangled message boards and bulletin things. The Digest is simple and quick to use - long may it continue. Perhaps there is scope to advertise it's existence more widely? Just a thought. Gary P ------------------------------ End numan@garynumanfan.nu Digest [03/23/2001 18:01] --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T is produced, moderated, and distributed by Derek Langsford, Dave Datta, and Joey Lindstrom dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu, datta@cs.uwp.edu, Joey@GaryNumanFan.NU ------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply to the messages in this list, email: numan@GaryNumanFan.NU If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, email: listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU and include this line as the first line of your message body: SUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) or UNSUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) (email address is optional but useful if you have multiple addresses) If you want to switch between receiving Digests or individual posts, again send to listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU and include either of these in your message body: NORMAL numan@garynumanfan.nu or DIGEST numan@garynumanfan.nu ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please note: this mailing list is configured to automatically unsubscribe you if mail to your mailbox goes undeliverable for any reason. 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