--------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T (by subscription only - to unsubscribe, see bottom of this message) --------------------------------------------------------------------- (#2001-63) - Topics This Issue: 1) Digest (04/09/2001 18:01) (#2001-61) 2) Check out Tubeway Army featuring Gary Numan - Replicas 3) Check out Remind Me to Smile 4) Without quoting song titles 5) DC, Montreal and Cleveland...So Far! 6) US interest in North American Tour 7) Cincinnati pre-show gathering 8) Digest (04/10/2001 18:01) (#2001-62) 9) Check out The Cat and Fiddle Restaurant and Pub 10) we are deceived, we are lost and forsaken 11) Check out Gary Numan 12) Check out numanme ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:49:05 +0100 From: "Andy McHaffie" Subject: Re: Digest (04/09/2001 18:01) (#2001-61) Technically though, didnt Gary Numan top the charts with bothy cars and Pleasure Principle -they were his debut single and album !! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:51:51 EDT From: Psgifford@aol.com Subject: Check out Tubeway Army featuring Gary Numan - Replicas Click here: Tubeway Army featuring Gary Numan - Replicas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:11:31 EDT From: Psgifford@aol.com Subject: Check out Remind Me to Smile Click here: Remind Me to Smile ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:24:01 -0400 From: "Craig Burrows" Subject: Re: Without quoting song titles This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0C204.8FC3B780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Craig claimed to have written his piece >about the cyber bitch session without >mentioning any song titles. >Well, you mentioned 'PURE'! >Paddy Vickers yeah yeah bitch, bitch, bitch, :-) I quoted "Pure" as an Album title, I was not referring to the song.......like I just did..Damn, just cant seem to win. Craig ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0C204.8FC3B780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Craig=20 claimed to have written his piece >about=20 the cyber bitch session without >mentioning any song=20 titles. >Well,=20 you mentioned 'PURE'! >Paddy=20 Vickers   yeah = yeah bitch,=20 bitch, bitch, =20 :-) I quoted = "Pure" as an=20 Album title, I was not referring to the song.......like I just = did..Damn, just=20 cant seem to win. Craig ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0C204.8FC3B780-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:04:36 EDT From: JColl81871@aol.com Subject: DC, Montreal and Cleveland...So Far! --part1_b6.13d6d916.2805a254_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I plan on updating The Church Of Gary Numan web site tonight. I have some new things I'd like to post. So, check it out later. Also, I have finally secured my tickets, flights and hotel reservations for Washington, DC and Montreal. I live only 60 minutes from Cleveland, so we'll drive there and home in the same night. But, I am very excited about hooking up with as many Numan fans as possible for the pre-concert parties in DC and Montreal. If you are going to these shows (Cleveland, too) give me a hollar and we can make some plans. I'm trying to organize the Cleveland pre-concert get-together since I live so close. It will be in The Flats somewhere! Take care. Jim Collins --part1_b6.13d6d916.2805a254_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I plan on updating The Church Of Gary Numan web site tonight. I have some new things I'd like to post. So, check it out later. Also, I have finally secured my tickets, flights and hotel reservations for Washington, DC and Montreal. I live only 60 minutes from Cleveland, so we'll drive there and home in the same night. But, I am very excited about hooking up with as many Numan fans as possible for the pre-concert parties in DC and Montreal. If you are going to these shows (Cleveland, too) give me a hollar and we can make some plans. I'm trying to organize the Cleveland pre-concert get-together since I live so close. It will be in The Flats somewhere! Take care. Jim Collins --part1_b6.13d6d916.2805a254_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:29:39 -0000 From: "roger smith" Subject: US interest in North American Tour As far as the lack of interest goes for the upcomming tour I have this to offer: NO MIDWEST OR SOUTHERN STATES SHOWS!!! I am a 'completist' fan (if 90+ CD'S and 250+ vinyl plus 2 tattoos count) and the lack of a show within 1300 miles of Houston , Texas was very disheartening. The Exile Tour rolled through the south last time around, I hit three shows, and all were packed. I don't know who is to blame (Eagle, Cleo, Spitfire, Gary?) but the fact that I don't wish to run my pie-hole on the digest is not that I'm not interested but the plain and simple fact that I can't go to any shows just plain pisses me off. So for all that can attend, do so, I'm sure I'll be buying your tour posters off the bathroom wall on Ebay any day now. Roger Houston _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:14:02 -0400 From: Terry Burke Subject: Cincinnati pre-show gathering Hello everyone, I am trying to organize a pre-show gathering in Cincinnati on Friday the 27th of April. It seems that the coffee house (Buzz) that I had suggested in previous postings will be having a concert of their own that night (Drums & Tuba). Sooooo does anyone have a suggestion on where they would like to meet? There are some CRAPPY bars near Bogarts, and one TINY coffee house a few doors down from the venue. I am open to suggestions. In case I haven't made it clear. I am thrilled that Gary Numan will be performing in Cincinnati!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! t3rry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:54:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Buck Futt Subject: Re: Digest (04/10/2001 18:01) (#2001-62) Hello, how do you view this email without seeing the html codes? So very hard to read.. --- MDaemon@garynumanfan.nu > wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > T H E > G A R Y > N U M A N > D I G E S T > > (by subscription only - to unsubscribe, see bottom of this message) > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >(#2001-62) - Topics This Issue: > > 1) N/A > 2) Sacrifice, the Movie + DC show > 3) Ramblings > 4) OK, I'm trying.... > 5) Without quoting song titles > 6) Not everything on the list is crap > 7) Mr. Wall > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:28:45 >From: "William Wilson" >Subject: > > >Hi! All, > Is it any suprise to anyone that the people who seem to be "Jumping >ship" are the ones responsible for bouncing back the old digests!! I counted >three out of the last four(75%) so maybe it's a good thing eh!! > In my mind this digest is for Numan fans to comunicate with each other >and if it strays off track sometimes then SO WHAT!!!,just skip any message >you dont wanna read!!! simple!!(like this one!!*G*) > I do find the lack of euphoria from the U.S. about the forthcoming >tour rather suprising,but I'm sure your only keeping the energy for the >shows,god knows you'll need it!!!*G* > as for Numan onlt coming No.7 in the top ten british electropop,well >what did we expect!! fair treatment!!,no chance!! but I did notice that >numan was the only artist who was named on the show by any CURRENT >star(moby)...(and yep!! the pics were of MM and Moby) > Stick with it joey,all good "Rockaries" need a little weeding out now >and then!!*BG* > Cheers > William Wilson > (Glasgow Crazie!) > >visit my homepage of EXCLUSIVE!! live pictures at >http://homepages.go.com/~glasgow_crazie/index.html > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:39:36 EDT >From: DCGaySLP@aol.com >Subject: Sacrifice, the Movie + DC show > > >--part1_7b.12e220bf.2803be58_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Listers.....and opening night concertgoers: > >I have LONG suspected that Sacrifice would make a wonderful film (to say >nothing of adding the themes from Pure and Exile).......one of two things >come to mind.....a very very dark animation similar to Spawn OR a live action >movie opening with HUGE cinematographic scenes depicting dark lords >abandoning their minions because of the impending rise of a sinister overlord >type of thing.......the story could unfold about how the followers of these >gods lose their faith as the darkness is unleashed upon their world........... > >um.....oh wait.......that really happened =:O > >On a side note, I invited Gary and the crew out to dinner for the opening >night of the US tour (no publicity type of thing.....) and received a kind >email from Tony Webb indicating that the lot would be extremely busy w/ their >tour schedule, interviews, promotion, etc to attend but he thanked me >profusely, which I thought was a great gesture! > >For those of you attending the DC show, I'm at a loss for coming up with a >good location for a pre-show get-together, so I'm proposing we all meet in >line before the show (which will form around 6 I'm pretty sure)......there >will be lots of time to connect before the doors open and before the show >inside......the 9:30 club is a great 'mingling' venue and has fab food but >pricey drinks (fair warning). We're down to one week and counting and I can >hardly wait!!!! > >Anyone coming into the area interested in meeting up earlier in the day, >please email me personally and let me know when you may be coming >in.....perhaps we can meet at my house or something before hand.....I'm off >all that week (whee!!)........this goes for doubly for those of you I already >KNOW are coming (Zerfboy, Jim Collins, etc.) > >Talk to you all later! Let's get excited about this :) > >--part1_7b.12e220bf.2803be58_boundary >Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Listers.....and opening night concertgoers: > > I have LONG suspected that Sacrifice would make a wonderful film (to say > nothing of adding the themes from Pure and Exile).......one of two things > come to mind.....a very very dark animation similar to Spawn OR a live action > movie opening with HUGE cinematographic scenes depicting dark lords > abandoning their minions because of the impending rise of a sinister overlord > type of thing.......the story could unfold about how the followers of these > gods lose their faith as the darkness is unleashed upon their world........... > > um.....oh wait.......that really happened =:O > > On a side note, I invited Gary and the crew out to dinner for the opening > night of the US tour (no publicity type of thing.....) and received a kind > email from Tony Webb indicating that the lot would be extremely busy w/ their > tour schedule, interviews, promotion, etc to attend but he thanked me > profusely, which I thought was a great gesture!       > > For those of you attending the DC show, I'm at a loss for coming up with a > good location for a pre-show get-together, so I'm proposing we all meet in > line before the show (which will form around 6 I'm pretty sure)......there > will be lots of time to connect before the doors open and before the show > inside......the 9:30 club is a great 'mingling' venue and has fab food but > pricey drinks (fair warning). We're down to one week and counting and I can > hardly wait!!!! > > Anyone coming into the area interested in meeting up earlier in the day, > please email me personally and let me know when you may be coming > in.....perhaps we can meet at my house or something before hand.....I'm off > all that week (whee!!)........this goes for doubly for those of you I already > KNOW are coming (Zerfboy, Jim Collins, etc.) > > Talk to you all later!  Let's get excited about this :) > >--part1_7b.12e220bf.2803be58_boundary-- >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 21:50:40 -0400 >From: dilidali@core.com >Subject: Ramblings > >Mr. Wall, > > There is no spoon. >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:13:00 -0700 >From: obscure@blueneptune.com >Subject: OK, I'm trying.... > >Amidst all the quibbling about the quality of posts to the list...I >figured I'd do something about it. > >I'm currently reading "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life - The History of >the Disc Jockey" by Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton. (I'm an >ex-radio and club DJ) > >In the section on the birth of Hip Hop there's this paragraph about >Afrika Bambaataa in the Bronx in the late 70's: > >>>The audiences which gathered around Bambaataa were as open-minded >>>as he, and if anyone dared to get snobbish about music, he >>>delighted in tricking them, whipping in some obscure track and then >>>gleefully informing them that they'd just danced to The Beatles or >>>The Monkees. Taped TV themes and commercials, Hare Krishna chants, >>>Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Flying Lizards, even Gary Numan, all >>>made their way onto his system.<< > >I just love it when Gary gets props. I think it some how vindicates >my fierce defense of him and his music for all these years. I got so >tired of Gary being the whipping boy of the UK press and non-existent >everywhere else, that I really love it when he gets mentioned by his >peers or younger musicians. > >Isn't that what this list has been about? Sharing our experiences of >his music, his concerts, and ultimately helping each other keep the >faith when no one else really cared? > >I don't have the time to post much these days...my job keeps my >incredibly busy. But I read the digest every day....and love reading >the posts from those numanoids who I met during Gary's last tour in >1998. And yes, I just pass over the ones I don't care for, easy >enough. > >Can't wait until May 4th! > >Lisa > >-- >_______________________ >obscure@blueneptune.com >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:02:22 +0100 >From: vickers@netcomuk.co.uk >Subject: Re: Without quoting song titles > >Craig claimed to have written his piece >about the cyber bitch session without >mentioning any song titles. > >Well, you mentioned 'PURE'! > >Paddy Vickers >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:06:45 +0100 >From: luc.de_visscher@ch.Novartis.com >Subject: Not everything on the list is crap > >Hi everyone, > >I really enjoyed todays list with the comparison between Hear'Say, Hanson, >TA & The Monkeys. This clearly proves that some interesting stuff is being >spread around with this list, not only cyber bullshit. > >Was this all I had to say. No, I do have some comments on the "Purified" >answers of Gary in his own interview. > >I am very happy he doesn't see "Cars" and "Are friends electric?" as a >burden any longer. Everybody is entitled to have her/his own opinion about >these tracks and whether or not they should still be part of a live show. >But think of this, not a lot of very popular bads/artists do write one real >"classic" song, and Gary wrote 2 (!!!). Artists that were far more popular >in the 80s like Human League, Spandau Ballet, Soft Cell, Thompson Twins, >Adam & the Ants, Duran Duran, are almost completely forgotten (Soft Cell's >"Tainted love" is almost a classic, but then again, it's a cover). And even >today, Cars and AFE do not sound outdated. So think about this the next >time those both songs are being minimalised by a fan or anyone else as a >matter of fact. >(PS: I do regret that still loads of people do not know that Gary has >continued to make records 20 years after those songs, but hey, that's just >a fact we got to live with). >Why do I suddenly mention this? Well, since Sacrifice/Exile/Pure, I haven't >listened to The Pleasure Principle. I have last weekend in my car, and I >was surprised by the sheer brilliancy of that record, baring in mind it's >22 years old.... > >On another note, I do not understand Gary continiously stating he can't >play songs live of 7/8 albums because he doesn't have the right equipment >or instruments. (being fretless bass, saxophone, female voices, etc...). I >wonder why these songs can't be reworked in a "new" version (read 'purified >version'). He's done it with older tracks, even Cars already. Seems like a >nice challenge to me. > >I still hope that the song 'Pure' will be released as a single soon. I >noticed during the last tour that the crowd enthousiastically sings the >chorus along. Nice. > >Best to all of you, > >Luc DE VISSCHER >THE NUMAN FACTOR >BELGIUM > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:15:21 +0100 >From: "Steve Morris" >Subject: Mr. Wall > >Mr. Wall deserves some credit: >1] He does not post in HTML >2] He does not quote back the previous digest >3] He does not add attachments > >I wish all digesters were as well behaved >(and he is amusing in an offbeat manner.) > >Enoch > >------------------------------ > >End numan@garynumanfan.nu Digest [04/10/2001 18:01] >--------------------------------------------------- > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > T H E > G A R Y > N U M A N > D I G E S T > > is produced, moderated, and distributed by > Derek Langsford, Dave Datta, and Joey Lindstrom > dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu, datta@cs.uwp.edu, Joey@GaryNumanFan.NU >------------------------------------------------------------------- >To reply to the messages in this list, email: > >numan@GaryNumanFan.NU > >If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, email: > >listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU > >and include this line as the first line of your message body: > >SUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) >or >UNSUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) > >(email address is optional but useful if you have multiple addresses) > >If you want to switch between receiving Digests or individual posts, again send to >listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU and include either of these in your message body: > >NORMAL numan@garynumanfan.nu >or >DIGEST numan@garynumanfan.nu >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Please note: this mailing list is configured to automatically unsubscribe you >if mail to your mailbox goes undeliverable for any reason. 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You are all invited... Cheers. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:12:12 -0500 From: Mr Wall Subject: we are deceived, we are lost and forsaken > There is no spoon. How perceptive you are, dilidali. I see it is you yourself that bends. The danger, though, is in the message we see all around us that the spoon DOES exist, and that we ourselves do not. We cannot make love to a teen pop star, but we CAN buy a junk food drink and pretend we are-- exchanging our emotions for wealth for the corporations. Humans living to serve our creations, just as Numan predicted over two decades ago. We are your heartbeat. We're all you need to know. We keep you alive, for now. Hear my words, because emotion now is leaving. See? I'm really not a human at all. * * * "The founders framed the Constitution to protect what they called 'property rights.' But there's no such thing as 'property rights.' Property cannot have rights. My pen does not have rights. It was the rights of the wealthy they sought to protect." --Noam Chomsky ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:54:13 EDT From: Psgifford@aol.com Subject: Check out Gary Numan Click here: Gary Numan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:56:12 EDT From: Psgifford@aol.com Subject: Check out numanme Click here: numanme ------------------------------ End numan@garynumanfan.nu Digest [04/11/2001 18:01] --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T is produced, moderated, and distributed by Derek Langsford, Dave Datta, and Joey Lindstrom dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu, datta@cs.uwp.edu, Joey@GaryNumanFan.NU ------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply to the messages in this list, email: numan@GaryNumanFan.NU If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, email: listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU and include this line as the first line of your message body: SUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) or UNSUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) (email address is optional but useful if you have multiple addresses) If you want to switch between receiving Digests or individual posts, again send to listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU and include either of these in your message body: NORMAL numan@garynumanfan.nu or DIGEST numan@garynumanfan.nu ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please note: this mailing list is configured to automatically unsubscribe you if mail to your mailbox goes undeliverable for any reason. 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