--------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T (by subscription only - to unsubscribe, see bottom of this message) --------------------------------------------------------------------- (#2001-135) - Topics This Issue: 1) Ok I'll bite... 2) Fight Club & Paddy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:09:48 -0500 From: "Gean, Shawn" Subject: Ok I'll bite... In reference to the debate on gullibility... >You miss the entire meaning of the word gullible. >Gullible is believeing in what someone else tells you is right with no proof >whatsoever of it. Easily tricked because of being too trusting. >By your definition, faith is a very bad inagination gone terribly wrong. Why are you so gullible as to believe your senses? what is proof of anything? Reality is nothing. we are nothing. If you believe you have proof of something, think about it... you are taking someone's word on something, whether it be that electrons circle the nucleus of an atom (have you ever seen one) or that the force of gravity is inverse proportional to the distance between objects... If you believe either of these things, you are having faith in people long dead. Why is the faith that other people express so different? Even if you have experienced something directly, how can you trust that your senses, fallible as they are, are telling you the truth? truth is subjective, is flexible. perhaps it is nonexistent. Science is a religion just as Christianity or Buddhism or Islam is. And we worship every day in our cars and in front of our televisions and our computer screens. We trust what we are told, just as humans have for millions of years. why should we berate others for their beliefs, when ours are just as bizarre? And Faith.... we all have it. You had faith today that when you sat in your chair, it would not collapse. you didn't think about it, but you believed it. when you got up, you had faith that your legs would support you. what PROOF did you have? that they worked yesterday? how do you KNOW that wasn't a dream? Doubt everything. * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:27:08 From: "William Wilson" Subject: Fight Club & Paddy Hi! Paddy, Don't worry mate,just quoting from the movie,ie, the rules of fight club!!...watch the movie mate,it is a good movie,then remember my little comment and you'll have a little chuckle to yourself :) William _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End numan@garynumanfan.nu Digest [06/22/2001 18:01] --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T is produced, moderated, and distributed by Derek Langsford, Dave Datta, and Joey Lindstrom dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu, datta@cs.uwp.edu, Joey@GaryNumanFan.NU ------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply to the messages in this list, email: numan@GaryNumanFan.NU If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, email: listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU and include this line as the first line of your message body: SUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) or UNSUBSCRIBE numan@garynumanfan.nu (email address) (email address is optional but useful if you have multiple addresses) If you want to switch between receiving Digests or individual posts, again send to listserv@GaryNumanFan.NU and include either of these in your message body: NORMAL numan@garynumanfan.nu or DIGEST numan@garynumanfan.nu ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please note: this mailing list is configured to automatically unsubscribe you if mail to your mailbox goes undeliverable for any reason. If you suddenly stop receiving this list, you should assume you've been automatically unsubscribed and should then manually resubscribe. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Gary Numan Digest is brought to you via Joey Lindstrom and the GaryNUmanFan server (Joey@GaryNumanFan.NU) All of the opinions in this digest belong to the respective authors and do not necessarily agree with those of the Digest Producers. --------------------------------------------------------------------------