--------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T (by subscription only - to unsubscribe, see bottom of this message) --------------------------------------------------------------------- (#2002-79) - Topics This Issue: 1) Automatic "cursory" review 2) Digest (06/19/2002 18:01) (#2002-78) 3) Automatic devotion 4) Automatic devotion 5) I, Assassin/Warriors track listings announced 6) Automatic 7) Pre-order RIP 8) Sharpe Numan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:08:47 EDT From: DCGaySLP@aol.com Subject: Automatic "cursory" review --part1_7c.29a1d94d.2a42770f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all.... Saw some questions about Automatic and had to put my 2p worth in. All in all, it's not a "horrible" as many will make it out to be. It does, indeed, have some synthpoppy stuff that isn't too bad. "Change Your Mind" is a decent song as is "I'm on Automatic" although as far as Numan goes, it's WAYYY watered down stuff and doesn't much hold the test of time, unlike stuff like Telekon or TPP. It's hard to find at best, especially on CD. I found the LP artwork rather interesting as it has a large "shiny" X imposed over the top of the artwork of Numan and Sharpe standing on that scaffolding in some warehouse or factory of somesort. Personally, I'll take the Sharpe/Numan stuff over the Numan/Nicholson junk any day of the week. Ta for now! Rick in DC (pricing tix to KMFDM as we speak) :) --part1_7c.29a1d94d.2a42770f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all.... Saw some questions about Automatic and had to put my 2p worth in.  All in all, it's not a "horrible" as many will make it out to be.  It does, indeed, have some synthpoppy stuff that isn't too bad.  "Change Your Mind" is a decent song as is "I'm on Automatic" although as far as Numan goes, it's WAYYY watered down stuff and doesn't much hold the test of time, unlike stuff like Telekon or TPP.   It's hard to find at best, especially on CD.  I found the LP artwork rather interesting as it has a large "shiny" X imposed over the top of the artwork of Numan and Sharpe standing on that scaffolding in some warehouse or factory of somesort.   Personally, I'll take the Sharpe/Numan stuff over the Numan/Nicholson junk any day of the week. Ta for now! Rick in DC (pricing tix to KMFDM as we speak) :) --part1_7c.29a1d94d.2a42770f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:42:54 -0700 From: smu johnson Subject: Re: Digest (06/19/2002 18:01) (#2002-78) Mark, I have the Automatic album and I really enjoy it... I honestly believe it is one of the best. I know people here will disagree, but of course, peoples' tastes are different. And.. good luck finding this album for 20$. I paid 45$ US for mine (approx.) last year. smu johnson > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:43:12 -0500 > From: "Mark V. Anderson" > Subject: bill sharpe > > I just downloaded the video for "Change Your Mind" from the NAGNFC website. > I was reluctant to download it because of the rampant Bill Sharpe bashing > I've seen going on since I joined the list. However, I was pleasantly > surprised by a pretty funky, catchy tune with a smart video to match. On a > related note I also love "New Thing From London Town". So at this point, > I'm almost ready to just locate and acquire "Automatic", but I'm still a > little intimidated. Does anyone out there have a fair review for me of the > album? I'd just not like to throw 20 dollars away if its completely not > worth it. > -Mark V. Anderson > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 03:24:39 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?NumPet?= Subject: Automatic devotion Hi Mark, I think Automatic would easily be worth $20.00. You're obviously into Gary and the songs, though classically eighties, are still infused with that Numanesque flavour. The lyrics are all recognisably Numan, and as for the music, if you like the typical eighties style (plenty of catchy hooks)then you've nothing to lose by buying Automatic. My personal faves include Voices, I'm On Automatic, Rip It Up (slightly reminiscent in style of M&S), however all of the songs are above average (compared to the other eighties stuff of this style). I personally listen and very much enjoy this album on a regular basis which is more than I can say of some of Gary's other stuff. Hope this helps - I'd be happy to make a taped copy for you! Cheers, Linda Downunder PS. Not sure if demographics help but I'm 23 years of age and became a fan 2 years ago. > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:43:12 -0500 > From: "Mark V. Anderson" > > Subject: bill sharpe > > I just downloaded the video for "Change Your Mind" > from the NAGNFC website. > I was reluctant to download it because of the > rampant Bill Sharpe bashing > I've seen going on since I joined the list. > However, I was pleasantly > surprised by a pretty funky, catchy tune with a > smart video to match. On a > related note I also love "New Thing From London > Town". So at this point, > I'm almost ready to just locate and acquire > "Automatic", but I'm still a > little intimidated. Does anyone out there have a > fair review for me of the > album? I'd just not like to throw 20 dollars away > if its completely not > worth it. > -Mark V. Anderson ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 03:24:46 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?NumPet?= Subject: Automatic devotion Hi Mark, I think Automatic would easily be worth $20.00. You're obviously into Gary and the songs, though classically eighties, are still infused with that Numanesque flavour. The lyrics are all recognisably Numan, and as for the music, if you like the typical eighties style (plenty of catchy hooks)then you've nothing to lose by buying Automatic. My personal faves include Voices, I'm On Automatic, Rip It Up (slightly reminiscent in style of M&S), however all of the songs are above average (compared to the other eighties stuff of this style). I personally listen and very much enjoy this album on a regular basis which is more than I can say of some of Gary's other stuff. Hope this helps - I'd be happy to make a taped copy for you! Cheers, Linda Downunder PS. Not sure if demographics help but I'm 23 years of age and became a fan 2 years ago. > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:43:12 -0500 > From: "Mark V. Anderson" > > Subject: bill sharpe > > I just downloaded the video for "Change Your Mind" > from the NAGNFC website. > I was reluctant to download it because of the > rampant Bill Sharpe bashing > I've seen going on since I joined the list. > However, I was pleasantly > surprised by a pretty funky, catchy tune with a > smart video to match. On a > related note I also love "New Thing From London > Town". So at this point, > I'm almost ready to just locate and acquire > "Automatic", but I'm still a > little intimidated. Does anyone out there have a > fair review for me of the > album? I'd just not like to throw 20 dollars away > if its completely not > worth it. > -Mark V. Anderson ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:25:38 -0700 From: Derek Langsford Subject: I, Assassin/Warriors track listings announced Generally good news. And the rarities disc is still a possibility. Would love to see the US remix version of White Boys and Heroes on that. From Afenet: Beggars Banquet have released preliminary details on the track \listings for the remastered "I,Assassin" and "Warriors" albums. I Assassin ---------- 1. White Boys & Heroes 2. War Songs 3. A Dream Of Siam 4. Music For Chameleons(Album Version) 5. This Is My House 6. I,Assassin 7. The 1930's Rust 8. We Take Mystery Bonus Tracks 9. War Games 10. Glitter And Ash 11. The Image Is 12. This House Is Cold 13. Noise Noise 14. We Take Mystery (early version) 15. Bridge? What Bridge Warriors -------- 1. Warriors 2. I Am Render 3. The Iceman Comes 4. This Prison Moon 5. My Centurion 6. Sister Surprise 7. The Tick Tock Man 8. Love Is Like Clock Law 9. The Rhythm Of the Evening Bonus Tracks 10. Poetry And Power 11. My Car Slides 1 12. My Car Slides 2 13. To Be Confirmed 14. Sister Surprise (Single Version) 15. Warriors (Full Length Version) Beggars are claiming that the full length version of Warriors is not the 12" version of the song, but a different longer version. Beggars have stated that there are still no release dates scheduled for these releases, they are still waiting for Gary to add some lyrics for the new songs and they believe he is working on them now. Beggars have also confirmed that the Gary Numan "Rarities" album is still a going concern. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:15:32 +0000 From: "Ian Blair" Subject: Automatic Well I LOVED this album, back in the day and for many years - but I aint got a turntable these days so I haven't heard it for yonks now! I'd struggle to remember if "Change Your Mind" is even on this album though? Certainly "New Thing From London Town" isn't (?). But I did love this album though - mad nonsensical Numan lyrics, strung along to some really nice, catchy, melodic synth sounds from Bill Sharpe. I gather this is quite rare to find on CD these days? I did manage to pick up the CD single for "I'm On Automatic" a few years back, which has an extended version of "Automatic", an extended remix of "Voices" (which I adore), and an extra track I'd not heard, called "Love Like A Ghost", which is just lovely! Valiumboy.x _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:43:32 +0200 From: luc.de_visscher@ch.novartis.com Subject: Pre-order RIP Dear all, On Amazon.co.uk, RIP can be pre-ordered. "Automatic" is not a bad album, just a bit too mainstream and 'commercial'. Sugababes have gone from 30 tot 10 in hte charts. Sorry for telegraphic style, but I do have a lot of work for the moment. Best, Luc De visscher Numan Factor Belgium ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:26:33 -0500 (CDT) From: machman@netdirect.net Subject: Sharpe Numan >So at this point, I'm almost ready to just locate and >aquire "Automatic", but I'm still a little intimidated. Does anyone >out there have a fair review for me of the album? I'd just not like >to throw 20 dollars away if its completely not worth it. >-Mark V. Anderson Well, I enjoyed enough to justify buying it. That being said, it is not one that will more than likely find a lot of play time in your CD player when compared to his other works. The biggest thing about the album, in my opinion, is that unlike much of Numan's usual fare, this album will sound a little "dated". It is certainly an 80's album, but depending on your way of looking at it, that may or may not be a bad thing. As a whole, the album is dancy and very Pop aimed and driven. If you liked Change Your mind engough, then you may very well enjoy the rest of the album. Mark Hubbard ------------------------------ End digest@garynuman.info Digest [06/20/2002 18:01] --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T is produced, moderated, and distributed by Derek Langsford, Dave Datta, and Joey Lindstrom dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu, davdat@allmusic.com, Joey@GaryNuman.Info Back Issues: http://digest.garynuman.info ------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply to the messages in this list, email: digest@garynuman.info If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, email: listserv@GaryNuman.info and include this line as the first line of your message body: SUBSCRIBE digest@garynuman.info (email address) or UNSUBSCRIBE digest@garynuman.info (email address) (email address is optional but useful if you have multiple addresses) If you want to switch between receiving Digests or individual posts, again send to listserv@GaryNuman.Info and include either of these in your message body: NORMAL digest@garynuman.info or DIGEST digest@garynuman.info ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please note: this mailing list is configured to automatically unsubscribe you if mail to your mailbox goes undeliverable for any reason. 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