--------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T (by subscription only - to unsubscribe, see bottom of this message) --------------------------------------------------------------------- (#2002-110) - Topics this issue: 1) Numan singles???, 2) The Sailor in Love With the Sea, 3) My Top 5, 4) singles, 5) Oh! Didn't I say about the b's? They're not one of you album lot., 6) A Question Of Singles, 7) Top 5, 8) Top 5, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:45:25 +1000 From: "David P Banks" Subject: Numan singles??? Hi Guy's, Isn't there a single that Gary sung on, something about a "Sailor and the Sea", or something like that. Could someone provide the details about it, and where one can get it....if it exists! ******************************************** David P. Banks Seven Hills NSW Australia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 19:24:03 -0700 From: Rod Reynolds Subject: Re: The Sailor in Love With the Sea Hi. The track you speak of is on the 6ths cd Hyacinths and Thistles (2000), which is a side project of Stephin Merrit of the Magnetic Fields. The 6ths albums (of which there are only two) feature many guest vocalists. the H&T album features Momus, Sally Timms of the Mekons, Sarah Cracknell of St Etienne, Marc Almond of Soft Cell, Miho Hatori of Cibo Matto, Bob Mould of Husker Du, Katherine Whalen of the Squirrel Nut Zippers, Clare Grogan of Altered Images, and more including Gary Numan. It's an interesting and eclectic album, obviously. Also of note is that Stephin Merritt is out and proud and many of the songs have a decidedly homo-erotic bend to them, including Gary's little number, The Sailor in Love with the Sea. I don't believe it was a single, though. info at www.houseoftomorrow.com Rod Los Angeles > Isn't there a single that Gary sung on, something about a "Sailor and the > Sea", or something like that. Could someone provide the details about it, > and where one can get it....if it exists! > > ******************************************** > David P. Banks > Seven Hills NSW Australia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:25:13 EDT From: JARUTLAND@aol.com Subject: My Top 5 OK, enough of my lurking in the shadows (at least for now). Here is my current top five picks (which, like others, I reserve the right to change at any time): 1) My Dying Machine 2) Sister Surprise 3) Warriors 4) White Boys & Heroes 5) Berserker Anyone want to guess which CDs have been getting the most play lately? Also, in answer to Ben's question, Voices was released in 1987 although I don't know the specific date of the single. BTW: Is my 12" German version of this in anyway considered rare? Andy Dallas, TX, USA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 08:48:00 +0100 From: "Darren Warne" Subject: singles Hi, had to submit my fav singles, only written a few times but this latest poll seems to have drummed up a fair bit of interest. 1. storm trooper in drag 2. i die you you die 3. she's got claws 4. absolution 5. america ask me again tommorrow and it will be different. someone in the last email said he hated, i sing rain - i think its one of the best if not the best b side. my favorite numan era is Dance, love every song. anyway, cheers for now. darren (the replicant) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:12:57 -0500 From: "Val & Ben Iglar-Mobley" Subject: Oh! Didn't I say about the b's? They're not one of you album lot. > I concur with another digester who suggested we do > a best b-sides list as well, in which case I would pick... Whoa! Hold up there, Rick! You 'noids are getting ahead of me! I was planning on running a "best b's" poll, but I thought we should just stick to a single, "singles," poll for now, just to keep it tidy and unconfusing. I actually thought of the b's poll first. Let me set the scene for you. Valerie & I just had our five-year anniversary. (Thank you, thank you, you're too kind! But I should give some of the credit to Val. I really couldn't have done it without her!) To celebrate, we drove five hours each way from Chicago up to Detroit to see the touring Cirque du Soleil performance, "Quidam." That makes our fourth performance of that company we've seen together. During my turn at the wheel, I thought about the last time we drove to Detroit just for a show-- Gary's 'Exile' tour. Thanks to a friendly little android, Val & I have a recording of one of the nights of that tour, and we were listening to it on our drive. When we went to that concert, it had been something like fifteen years since I'd first (and last) seen Gary, way back in 1980 for the Teletour in Chicago. I remember hearing "Noise Noise" that night in Detroit-- the only song he'd played from his experimental middle-- and wondering about what made him pick that one. Later I'd read that he thought that was his best b-side. 'Really?' I thought. 'Better than...?' Well, there are so many I could name (but perhaps I'll save that for when that poll gets started in earnest). Right then, behind the wheel as I was listening to the concert, thinking about all that, I decided I wanted to run a "favorite b'sides" poll on the list. But first it made sense to run a singles poll. To my thinking, an artist's songs can be divided into three categories: singles, other songs on albums, and then b'sides and demos and whatnot. Singles are like the first-born children. They're the ones that are featured prominantly, up front, presented first to the world for public consumption. That would be a less meaningful distinction if it weren't the artists choosing what songs should be their singles, but usually they are the ones to make that call. Certainly it's been so with Gary. Album songs are like the middle children. They come second. They're still offered up to the world, yes, but they don't have that special elevated status bestowed on the singles. They're still there, part of the ouevre, but they don't rate as highly. And then there are the other songs. The ones that get left off the albums completely, either relegated to b'sides of singles or left on the cutting room floor entirely. These are songs that artists feel don't measure up to the rest of what they've recorded, so don't deserve even to be placed alongside the other songs they've pressed onto their albums. These are the last-born children-- neglected and unloved. Well, but we're fans, aren't we? We're the ones who love everything our hero does. Oh, we may disagree, we may find some bits that many of us generally slag off, but surely for whatever particular bit we want to pick out there'll be one or two among us we can find who absolutely adore it. And with Gary having made all those other songs so readily available to that collector with just a bit of determination and luck, there undoubtedly are plenty of us to be able to fill out a poll to give some general sense of our likes and dislikes among Gary's unwanted children. I'd already run a "songs in general" poll, so thinking about that kind of tripartite division there were obviously two more polls to be run. But the singles poll should come firt because, well, singles come first. In Gary's thinking, anyway, and certainly in the way he's presented as an artist. So be patient, nuanimalers. Mind your own b's wax. That'll be next. Ben * * * "I never really tried you out But all my friends that used to be Just never had the time for me" ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:00:53 +0100 From: "David Dickinson" Subject: RE:A Question Of Singles >Voices (w/ Bill Sharpe) (??) ?? -- (anyone know on this?) I think you'll find this was the B-side to "No more lies", and not a single,it also appeared on the Sharpe and Numan album "Automatic". And if we're including American singles, what about "Remind me to smile"? Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:03:02 +0100 From: "Gary Weir" Subject: Top 5 This weeks top 5 would be: 1: Complex 2: RIP 3: No More Lies (w/ Bill Sharpe) 4: I Die:You Die 5: A Question Of Faith Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:26:14 +0100 From: "Vickers" Subject: Top 5 My favourite five singles (at the moment) would be: 1) We Are Glass 2) I Die You Die 3) Heart 4) The Skin Game 5) Are 'Friends' Electric? £$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£$£ Worst five? I'll think about that! But Bridge? What Bridge? I Sing Rain This Disease will certainly be there. There are **very** few Numan tracks I do not enjoy. Three to be exact. The Monday Troop is certainly **not** one of them! On the Strange Charm album the tinny, poppy sound of 'New Thing' always comes as a shock and a letdown, but played by itself, not in the midst of real Numan, it's all right. Enough ramblings. Paddy Vickers ------------------------------ End digest@garynuman.info Digest [07/28/2002 18:01] --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T is produced, moderated, and distributed by Derek Langsford, Dave Datta, and Joey Lindstrom dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu, davdat@allmusic.com, Joey@GaryNuman.Info Back Issues: http://digest.garynuman.info ------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply to the messages in this list, email: digest@garynuman.info If you want to be removed, or someone wants to be added, email: listserv@GaryNuman.info and include this line as the first line of your message body: SUBSCRIBE digest@garynuman.info (email address) or UNSUBSCRIBE digest@garynuman.info (email address) (email address is optional but useful if you have multiple addresses) If you want to switch between receiving Digests or individual posts, again send to listserv@GaryNuman.Info and include either of these in your message body: NORMAL digest@garynuman.info or DIGEST digest@garynuman.info ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please note: this mailing list is configured to automatically unsubscribe you if mail to your mailbox goes undeliverable for any reason. 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