--------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E G A R Y N U M A N D I G E S T (by subscription only - to unsubscribe, see bottom of this message) --------------------------------------------------------------------- (#2002-150) - Topics this issue: 1) Not liking Gary, 2) B-Sides, 3) Gary Numan + Little Debbie = Cars, 4) Troy, 5) Troy / Bleed, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:27:06 -0600 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: Not liking Gary On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:01:59 -0600, Rod Reynolds wrote: >It was freeing in a way, although I don't agree with his philosophy, I can >understand it. As I have said before, having read his biography, and having >worked with him (in the fleeting moments that we actually had contact) it >was a disappointment to realize that I don't actually him. I don't >understand how I can LOVE someone's music and not even LIKE the person. That's a shame, Rod, it really is. And yet I think I can understand where you're coming from. Gary sometimes isn't as "likeable" as we might hope. Then again, neither am I, and maybe that's why I *DO* like (and respect) him as a person. I probably haven't had as much face time with him as you have, but I have had some: after-gig shows, some consulting work that Matt Holbrook and I did for him when he was getting NuWorld off the ground, and quite a bit of email. I think I see a lot of my own personality in him, which is probably why I do like him and why we also did have a bit of a falling out at one time (my fault). :-) I do have a theory though. You've read his biog - you know that there was a time, late 80's and early 90's, culminating with Machine + Soul, where he was allowing those around him more and more influence on his career, his decisions, even his music. Not only was that not helping, it was hurting tremendously. And then he made the decision to just go back to what he does best, and fuck whether or not radio warms up to him. He was gonna do his thing, his way, for better or for worse. If he was going to fail, he would fail ON HIS OWN. I gotta respect that. Yes, he's likely to make mistakes, but I still gotta respect that. So now along comes Rod Reynolds trying to orchestrate the promotion of his back catalogue. Rod wants only the best, Rod is a Numan *FAN*, but hey... a lot of Numan fans have tried to help in the past and it's almost always backfired. I can see why he wasn't at all enthusiastic Rod, and if I were you, I'd try hard not to take it too personally. Everything you were trying to do, to HELP him, flew in the face of his new philosophy: to take charge of his own career. Now I know there's some contradiction here. He's been trying to get "American representation" for many moons, and what's American representation going to do for him once he gets it? Give him advice on his career, that's what. Nobody said Gary was the most consistent guy in the world. He's in an absolutely unique position - so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, and forgive him for the mistakes he makes as he plows through completely uncharted territory. / From the desk of Joey Lindstrom / / My friend Sam has one leg. I went to his house. I couldn't go up the / stairs. / --Steven Wright ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:36:35 +1000 From: "FJF" Subject: B-Sides Hopefully in the nick of time... 1. We Are So Fragile 2. Survival 3. Tread Careful 4. Face to Face 5. Play Like God John F ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:33:21 +0100 From: Dryad Subject: re: Gary Numan + Little Debbie = Cars Gary Numan...Little Debbie...Gary Numan...Little Debbie... ::scratching head:: There's something very wrong about that. Dryad -- http://www.puritycontrol.co.uk - XF rec's at The Grove, updated 8/15/02 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: keith thripp Subject: Troy --0-643856234-1032208059=:50292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Guys Iv had a hard day at work and when i got home i went on the net and had another listern to troys version of Pure, im so impressed i thought i would share it with you all again. WELL DONE TROY --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines --0-643856234-1032208059=:50292 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hi Guys

Iv had a hard day at work and when i got home i went on the net and had another listern to troys version of Pure, im so impressed i thought i would share it with you all again. WELL DONE TROY


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Yahoo! News - Today's headlines --0-643856234-1032208059=:50292-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:38:45 -0700 (PDT) From: keith thripp Subject: Troy / Bleed --0-1814328165-1032208725=:52138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Guys again As a after thought i sent a email to Troy to ask him if he could do anything with Bleed, as you may or may not know , it for me is such a cracking song , lyric , mood and tempo. Troys mix of Pure is very clever so i set him achallenge to see if he could remix or arrange it for me / us Kind regards Keith Thripp ( Portsmouth uk ) PS i had 4 got the vid longman but i do it at the weekend --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines --0-1814328165-1032208725=:52138 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hi Guys again

As a after thought i sent a email to Troy to ask him if he could do anything with Bleed, as you may or may not know , it for me is such a cracking song , lyric , mood and tempo. Troys mix of Pure is very clever so i set him achallenge to see if he could remix or arrange it for me / us

Kind regards

Keith Thripp ( Portsmouth uk )

PS i had 4 got the vid longman but i do it at the weekend  

 


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